How can Victorinox do it?

speedfan said:
I don't know how to describe it, but it's like a powdery, gray, textured cross section.
Richard
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I've seen the same look in broken cold roled steel.

I will also add that some of the higher end blade steels are powdered.

Paul
 
sniff, sniff (burning?)

Come on! Victorinox are superb for the money. I havent owned a Wenger but I dare say its as good as Victorinox (It would have to be to stay in business)
 
Another thing to keep in mind is that SAKs, and multi tools in general are not meant to be a "primary" tool. The fact that they fold rules them out for that. They will serve the purpose when nothing else is at hand. If you are breaking any of the various tools, you are most likely using it for haevier duty than it was designed for.

Sorry to drift off topic..................

Paul
 
PWork said:
I don't care how they do it....They are getting it done at prices an average person can afford. :cool:

Paul
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couldnt agree more, I LOVE my SAK SwissChamp and its my EDC combined with a good single bladed knife of a good length.
 
Victorinox drop forges its blade, while Wenger uses a rolling prosses. Both give good results.

All steel that has been through the autinsite-martinsite steps to harden and anneal, will have a grain structure that on a broken end looks "gray and textured". After being a machinest for 30 years and having to have a knowledge of metals to pass the exams for my ratings I can tell you that you can not tell by looking at it if it is powdered metal.

If one is going to make statments, be sure of facts.
 
The right combination of experience - standardization and rationalization of components/parts - precision mass manufacturing with hand processes at the right stages .....
- and good quality inspection/control.

So although they produce 34,000 SAKs per day (or 7 million per year) in about 100 models - those models share many of the same components/parts - the manufacturing and assembly processes are standardized -

.....and the company is family owned and managed - where people take pride in their work - which helps to ensure a quality product that's the envy of the industry worldwide.

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Sorry for not chiming back in for a while. Not sure why but I didn't get a new post update in my e-mail until the post saying And that my friends is the voice of reason. So perhaps the tools are not made of powdered steel, though they could have fooled me. And I realized SAK is not a brand, but Victornox is, and that's what I meant. You have to give me a break since I only sleep 4 nights a week. Powdered steel or not, the tool parts are junk and the blades aren't too hot neither. NOW, the victonox multi-tool leatherman type things are decent.
 
Yup, they are so bad that nobody on this forum has a really bad thing to say about them. :rolleyes:
 
speedfan said:
Powdered steel or not, the tool parts are junk and the blades aren't too hot neither. NOW, the victonox multi-tool leatherman type things are decent.
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Interesting that you should endorse the Victorinox SwissTool multi-tool ...

since (due to standardization and rationalisation of components) the tools that you approve of in the SwissTool are either the same or very similar to those on the SAKs...... :eek:

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speedfan said:
I don't know how to describe it, but it's like a powdery, gray, textured cross section.
Richard
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If he is talking about what I think he is, it looks just like the broke part is made of grey styrine(spelling?) plastic!

I do not know if that means that it is made of powdered still or not, but is DOES look REALLY cheap when broken.
 
Around 24 years ago, I bought a SAK with about as many tools as they came with at that time. Since then, I have used it for absolutely anything, including stuff that it probably shouldn't have been used for! Apart from breaking the tip of the large blade (I now have a "tanto-SAK"! :D ) and killing the spring in the scissors, it has never failed me! It looks abused, but still works as well as when new!
I think that's pretty impressive! :cool:

Bo
 
Well I will chime in with my 2 cents. IMHO, sak's are a great bargin and are very useful edc tools. Not to talk crap on Leatherman " I like my Leatherman" however the screwdriver/bottleopener on my sak tinker is stronger than the one on the leatherman. I found this out the hard way. The overall structure of the tool "Leatherman" is stronger but Vic's steel sure seems to me to be better.
 
They have high quality control. Much of the operation is automated, but they also have many hand operations also before each knife is finished. Many of the people making these are generatational.
 
I guess you could call me a "born again" SAK user. I owned at one time or another at least three or four when I was a kid and a scout. At some point I left them behind and carried just a simple folder before discovering the Leatherman PST. The past several years I've carried my trusty PST on my belt.

About two weeks ago I happened upon a good price for a Vic Rucksak model and purchased it. It has been many years since I had last handled an SAK and I was stunned at the quality. I am still literally marvelling at the smooth action and solid lock up of each tool. My PST (while still a great tool) has awful clumping when trying to open individual tools. I then looked at Leatherman 'Juice' the other day and was struck by how the tools were difficult to open and even to close at times. Too much play as the tool was being folded caused it to hit the closed tools and get caught. This is non-existant with the SAK.

I'm now EDCing my Rucksak. There may be better materials out there but for the money and quality I think Victorinox is doing an amazing job. The stainless steel they use is just fine for my purposes. Easy to sharpen and maintain. I don't mind the plastic scales but I'd love to have G10 or micarta.
 
SAKs (Victorinox & Wenger) are the best knife value available. Personally, I give the production quality award to Victorinox. I'm continually amazed at Victorinox's ability to maintain the quality they do while producing millions of knives a year, maintianing a low price point, and operating a plant with about 1000 employees. Victorinox's staying in business with continual growth for 110 years is beyond impressive -- I'm more than convinced their commitment to quality is key to their success.
 
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