How can you not like the wave

JW85 said:
Been a while since I posted anything to this forum. To that affect I hope everyone is well. This seems like a rather silly topic but I suppose I'll humor Mr. Conservative and see what he has to say. I don't use the wave feature on any of my Emersons. I don't flick my knives (any brand) open either. I actually tighten them so that nothing short of deliberate pressure by my thumb will open them. I have no use for the wave feature as my pocket knife is simply a tool. Therefore, to me it is asthetically unappealing and if I have to think about how to pull this thing out of my pocket without it partially opening I'd say the bit is in the way. My pocket knife has not and never will be a weapon. If I'm in a bad enough situation, even in my civilian life, there are plenty of other items I reach for before my pocket knife.
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Heres what i have to say lol, like officers match said you are limiting your self. also what is the plenty other things your grabbing before your knife, other that your gun. and i already said if you dont like it for looks thats ok, im talking about people who dont like the wave then say they dont like it just cause. and is a weapon not a tool?
 
watertower said:
I do the same thing as I've been bit a few times from a partially opened knife. I can't imagine being without the wave feature now though.
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On the rare day I carry a non-Emerson knife I do get annoyed that the knife takes two steps to open - yeah, spoiled I know.
 
I said I'd reach for a lot of things before my pocket knife. The first that comes to mind is a fixed blade, if I'm in my gear. In street clothes If I reached for anything it would be a long stick. I'd prefer to be empty handed than bring another knife into the equation. And no, a weapon is not a tool, it's a weapon. I wouldn't drive nails with my 1911 anymore than a samurai would dig a fighting hole with his sword lol I know what you're going for I just don't like that line of thought. And I didn't say my dislike was just asthetic, since I now have to make sure I'm not pulling a partially opened blade out of my pocket which, given the efficiency of the wave (can't argue that one with you) is more difficult in slant pockets the useless piece is now in the way. Not an issue, I drop my middle finger across the spine when I reach for my waved knives. I tried it and found I don't like or have use for it. I would prefer it be optional but I know I'm in the minority and it's not my call to make.
 
JW85 said:
I said I'd reach for a lot of things before my pocket knife. The first that comes to mind is a fixed blade, if I'm in my gear. In street clothes If I reached for anything it would be a long stick. I'd prefer to be empty handed than bring another knife into the equation. And no, a weapon is not a tool, it's a weapon. I wouldn't drive nails with my 1911 anymore than a samurai would dig a fighting hole with his sword lol I know what you're going for I just don't like that line of thought. And I didn't say my dislike was just asthetic, since I now have to make sure I'm not pulling a partially opened blade out of my pocket which, given the efficiency of the wave (can't argue that one with you) is more difficult in slant pockets the useless piece is now in the way. Not an issue, I drop my middle finger across the spine when I reach for my waved knives. I tried it and found I don't like or have use for it. I would prefer it be optional but I know I'm in the minority and it's not my call to make.
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a weapon is a tool, its about getting the right tool for the job, you described getting a 1911 for a job that needs a hammer. and i rather have a knife then a long stick. i think most people would agree with me.
 
The right tool for a knife fight is a fixed blade if available. And given the myriad of fighting techniques and styles out there I think you'd be surprised at how many people would rather an impact weapon or their empty hands.
 
Free hands can graple and a well placed strike with a stick/baton can knock a knife out of the badguys hands.

Anyway, I'm a huge fan of the Wave. Makes for a excellent thumbramp! Also makes it darn easy to open the knife when it's time for it too! Heck, the Wave made all the auto knives I've had seem inconvenient to open. There are a couple models that I feel the Wave stick out just a bit too much like the Traveler. I do appreciate the Wave less models but that's mostly the Persian and the A-100's.
 
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JW85 said:
The right tool for a knife fight is a fixed blade if available. And given the myriad of fighting techniques and styles out there I think you'd be surprised at how many people would rather an impact weapon or their empty hands.
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Im sorry but now you just sound dumb, there is not 1 person on this planet except for you that would rather have bare hands that a knife in a fight. and while a longer impact weapon is good at a distance, after the gap is closed you can not generate any power. Thats why they say if someone has a bat close the distance.
 
No need to apologize. You're not going to hurt my feelings. I understand you're upset someone poked a hole in your original argument and instead of just accepting the possibility that someone has an opinion that differs from yours you'd like to lash out. Don't hold back, send it. If you're ever unlucky enough to find yourself in a fight with someone armed with a bat(not considered an impact weapon but the example you gave me) and they have any knowledge of close quarters fighting you'll see, between stars, that they never swing the bat. Close the distance yes, but you'll still get your lumps. They also say there's no winner in a knife fight. You're going to get cut. Bad. That being the case many teach that it's better to gain positive control of your enemies weapon rather than slice away at eachother. Aside from those with years of extensive training you've got a better chance with two free hands instead of putting another sharp pointy thing in front of you. At any rate this conversation has become rather dull. Your grand generalizations and romantic knife fighting notions aside I'm glad you like and utilize the wave feature. That's why it's there. Use it in good health. The thumb disk and hole are there for people such as myself. Take care.
 
The convenience of the wave is what makes it near impossible for me to carry other manufacturers knives..... Trust me I've tried.... A waved Emerson ALWAYS wins.
 
When i first got into knives i used to love the wave. Nothing more fun and intimidating than snicking out a wicked eki in front of friends. But i will say that i now dislike the wave due to how well it works. Sometimes when you want to pull the knife out of your pocket which may be full of other stuff you have to be careful to not let it catch and open. Also i know exactly how it works but others may not. Since i find myself using my blades in social settings far more than hostile settings i prefer a controlled opening. I think the wave is great and has its place but not so much for me.

Btw that persian os beautiful and terrifying at the same time. Awesome blade!
 
My EDC for several years has been a super cqc8 primary hand and a super Karamit off hand so I am used to the wave and miss it on the odd occasion i carry a non wave knife. I have bit myself with a 6" tilite which opened when i put my wallet in my pocket without thinking. I want a Persian! I would also love more non K blades in Karambit handles. Its a handle style that works well for me. The Karambit is great for cutting cable ties :)
 
Not a "Wave" fan either. Great little feature for quick deploying out of the right front pocket though. I removed the wave on one of my Horseman before trading it for another A-100.
I do have a Mini Commander but other than that I have a "Non-Waved" collection of Emersons.:o
Specwar-A
CQC-7A
Mini CQC-7A
A100's and Mini's.
 
Because technically... this is how you're suppose to hold the knife.



And the wave would be in the way. Since you are so perplexed as to why anybody would want a non-waved knife..... here are some of my reasons:

> Emerson's original design was non-waved, so there's the cool factor of owning an "original/earlier" design.

> I don't need to have rapid deployment and as somebody already mentioned, it just freaks people out.

> Emersons are notorious for being gritty and even when broken in, aren't exactly super smooth/loose so you need to pull quite hard and exaggerate the movement to get it to wave properly. Once again, I don't need to make a spectacle of taking my knife out.

> Lets just say hypothetically speaking, in a self-defense situation. The only way a knife is a feasible SD weapon is if say, you were on the ground and the guy (or girl... or animal) is on top of you..... you need to pull the knife out of your pocket to jab him/her/it in the rib cage prison style..... most likely you'll be doing it in a very awkward position where the wave will either get caught or not deploy fully.

I hope your mind is less boggled now.
 
All due respect to Earnest, but in my opinion it's a gimmick that has sold a bunch of knives for his company. I have no use for a knife that opens itself. I am perfectly capable of opening all of my folders that are designed to be opened one handed with my right or left hand. I don't want anything I am trying to remove from my pocket to snag my clothing (gun, knife, flashlight etc.). I compare it to "bump firing" a semi-auto rifle, just a gimmick.
 
I don't like the wave for the same reasons I don't like flippers, assisted opening, or auto knives. I prefer to be in total control of the blade as it opens. That way, I can control how fast or slow it is deployed.
 
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