How could they?

Originally posted by Gollnick
I recently heard a radio report about the extremes of sensitivity that have developed. A group of "Native Americans," was protesting the use of American Indian references in professional sports teams names and logos .......
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What about the state of Indiana? Is that the next one to sport a name change?

(Rhetorically asked - hint of sarcasm)
 
Not all American Indians feel negative about sports teams with Indian names. There is a tribe that has bus trips every year to Kansas City to see the Chiefs play. In interviews they say they love the Chiefs and have no problem with the name.
 
i think some minorities of all communities will find offence in some terms, here the aboriginals in some communities are causing trouble regarding the name of a feilds grand stand...the name is of a sporting ledgend's nick name of the area that stand is in and i think its kinda pathetic to do that. but the fact is my feelings aside someone will take offence, the day might come when a group or minority considers "white bread" in regards to the bread you eat a racist statement...who knows but someone *could* take offence and want it changed.

but when it comes to names done out of spite for a race or biggotry than they should be changed...but ummm i'm gonna shut up now. :D
 
Originally posted by Gollnick
Yeah, and Hitler drove around in a Mercedes... just like me. Coincidence?




I think his Benz was bigger than mine.
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me:... Hitler never drove around in his own Mercedes. All his lackeys and peons did all the driving and chauferred him around. Do I sense a bit of phallic envy here? :D

He may have drove his own "Folksvagen" Beetle before his notorious stint as uber dictator, though. ;)
 
The basic style/design of the VW Beetle sprang from Hitler's own pen. The whole idea was his.

It sort of makes you wonder about people who now see them as a symbol of '60's peacenick culture.

The whole point here being that times and symbols can change.
 
I did have a KKK Case pocket knife that I purchased at a gun show in the early 90's. The knife looked as if it was new from Case in a felt box with the KKK, and CASE logo on the blade, handle, and box lid. I didn't know anything about this knife, so I bought it thinking it was a rare find or something. Believe it or not I sold it to a fellow Case collector, and he happens to be black.

He did tell me that the knife was not factory made, but he still wanted it for his collection.
 
Just stumbled on this forum. I have seen the KKK knife. I'm abviously Asian but it never really bothered me. I know that some people just collect these, and if they want to seriously carry and use to upset me I can always upstage it with a nicer MOD or something:p :D . At the Indy 1500 Gun show there is a guy who has a stand that sells nothing but things displaying the swastica(ms?). I'm pretty sure he just sells these as collectibles but sometimes I'll see it attract the less desireble skinheads. This is where I first saw the KKK knives. There's not a whole lot to be done about, It's just what we get for Freedom of Speech.


P.S. nice avatar Robert:D
 
Swastikas...Now there's another symbol that's changed throughout history....

I've got one that's a family Heirloom,a necklace belonged to my great grandmother. It's fourteen karat gold, with diamonds on the inside.

Incidentally, no she was not a biggot, racist, Nazi, or any of that drivel. It used to merely be a Roman symbol for good luck, and she'd gotten it when she was a little girl. Incidentally it stays well hidden away and is not worn in public.

Now there's a white axe handle that is a different story altogether, but what can ya' say, good, bad, or indifferent, it's history, and should not be edited for political correctness. (I'm sure there's someone here who remembers those)

Personally I don't find the concept of a KKK case knife to be that offensive, as long as it's not being produced currently. I tend to recall seeing a special on the KKK that said they're down to around 1,500 members, and it's still declining.
 
I beleive that the swastica reversed was originaly a Buddist symbol for peace or something less degrading than it's flipped counterpart. Saw a lot of them in Thailand.
I also heard about the KKK losing members. They don't really make me as nervous as the Neo-Nazi's. They preach hate and violence and people act upon their words. They are also better organized than the KKK.
 
the swastika is a reversal (flipped) of the budhist symbol for peace and symbol for fortune.

of course, you can also go with "twisted iron cross" as called by Nostradamus, in which case it is a mutation of the catholic symbol.
 
s'pose we could take a look at Forum member Duck's sig line for some research on the Swastica also...

Learn about the Swastica http://www.manwoman.net/

errr...uhmmm...Case knives are really, really cool, but the KKK really, really sucks....(tryin' to stay a bit on topic here)

:D
 
The swastika, in both forms, is an old symbol. Hitler was into the occult and tied to get every spiritual advantage he could, just like on the Indiana Jones movies. One relic he actually got was the spear which is supposedly the "Lance of Longinus" which they believed was the spear that Jesus was stabbed with. Supposedly whoever has it has the power to rule the world. It did not work though.

Knife content: What would happen if Lynn Thompson took the Lance and put it through his "Proof" tests?:D
 
Originally posted by Benjamin Liu


Knife content: What would happen if Lynn Thompson took the Lance and put it through his "Proof" tests?:D
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LMAO!! damn that hot coffee shootin' out my nose hurt...
 
Originally posted by Benjamin Liu
I know Indians were sometimes called "Redskins" but the only group of people I've heard called "Reds" are Communists. I wonder if they'd also be offended by the name. :D
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You should read the "Alvin Maker" series by Orson Scott Card. It's an *awesome* series of books. The first one is called "Seventh Son." The series is set in the 19th century, in America, and magic is real. People can use spells in everyday life, and everyone is born with some sort of "hidden talent," which may range from being an above-average gardener, cook, or innkeeper, to being able to see inside the structure of matter and rearrange it through mental power!

The white settlers in the book interact with native Americans, who are referred to frequently as "reds." Some characters use the term derogatorily, and others benignly.

---Jeffrey
 
Originally posted by Ichabod Poser
To a biker, the flag is not a put down of blacks, but a tribute to Marlon Brando.
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Maybe so to a biker, but to alot of other people the confederate flag represents the old southern lifestyle and the good things about the confederacy more than the slavery.

In a more direct sense, it could also represent a rebellion against the "big brother" union.

I am not an african american, nor am I southerner by location (though I still claim that I was simply born in the wrong place), but the only time a confederate flag offends me is when it is deliberately used as a racist and provocative symbol (a number of heavy metal bands have pissed me off in this fashion).
 
IMO the Confederate flag is more of a symbol of southern heritage and independence than racism. I don't have one nor anything with it as a decoration as I'm not a southerner and it is not part of my heritage. IMO all this anti-Confederate flag stuff is just a bunch of whining for attention, a group of people making an issue over nothing. Most people I've seen opposing it are racists and bigots themselves, just on another side.

When I was a kid in 3rd grade, at least at my school, that flag was only associated with "The Dukes of Hazzard." :D
 
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