How did makers do at Blade?

I think R.J. hit the nail on the head. People were more selective about their purchases. I think the guys who always do well, did well and it was up for grabs for the rest.
I think people were quick on dropping money on their grail knives, but were careful about spending on anything not necessary.
I really discount dealer sales at shows because we can send them stuff anytime. I did get a few dealer orders and took a few regular orders. I only had a few of my pieces and was selling some stuff from my collection and did better than expected.
In my opinion, from my view, the show attendance was down Friday, way better Saturday and super slow Sunday.
I used to do the best on Friday early afternoon , Saturday mid day and hardly anything on Sunday. All of my sales were made strung out throughout each day.

I watched that Beltzer guy who was walking around all weekend with a BROWN bag, I followed him for a long time and pinned him down outside of the hotel. He had knife pics in his bag!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Could not bust him, so we became quick friends!!!
What a great guy. Thanks buddy, I had a blast talking about the different legends of the knife world and knife stuff in general.
BB
 
I did notice you running with your hair on fire most of the time and wanted to say I appreciated you taking the time to come see me, even if briefly.

I had hoped to see you in the pit and get some input from you but it didn't seem to work out. hopefully next year.

To be perfectly honest with you, last year I looked at a couple of your pieces and it didn't take long to see that you had a long way to go. Though I didn't want to discourage you as I thought you only had a couple months left before you would give it up.
Well I was wrong, as your determination is as impressive as how far you have come in just a year. Especially in your handles and guard fit-up, though your blades have come along as well. Yesterday it didn't take long to verify what I have been noticing in your photos. You are on the fast track while still mastering the fundamentals. I particularly liked you answer to my damascus question yesterday.

Keep up the hard work and we will see some letters behind your name.
 
Stephan - You are one to watch brother!!!! From what I was holding...........nothing will hold you back so enjoy the ride my friend :)
 
I'm sorry to say, I didn't sell out...

Brought one home out of ten, which is more than I usually take...:D

Attendance did seem a little down on Friday, or maybe folks were just more
spread out. T.Bose had to get a room for his drawing and there were as
many or more out in the hall who couldn't get in.

Like I said in the other thread, I had my best show ever and didn't sell to
dealers. Cliff Parker also had his best ever.

I had a ton of calls/emails before the show and sold most (not all) this way
but still consider them show sales. Seems like more collectors are doing this,
to beat the rush and relax a bit.

Good seeing some of you folks there!!!

Hell of a show, that I would not miss!
 
Hey Stephan, thanks much for lightening the load in my wife's little car!

And your knives looked great! Very good visiting with ya!
 
For me, it was a great show, as I was able to sell out before I could finish putting everything on the table (Friday morning)...

I could definitely tell that it was off though as I walked around and saw a lot of quality knives sitting on the tables..

I know from talking to several dealers that the show was off for them but they got a lot of sales the week before, so that was kind of the indicator that the show might be slow...

I got to handle 3-4 Fowler knives and they were looking mighty nice....

The only gripe I've got is that they re-arranged everything, so I didn't know where much was... I had known where everyone was at for years, now I couldn't find guys that were two rows behind me...

I have determined that I'm getting a booth next time in lieu of a table...


MT
 
I think R.J. hit the nail on the head. People were more selective about their purchases. I think the guys who always do well, did well and it was up for grabs for the rest.
I think people were quick on dropping money on their grail knives, but were careful about spending on anything not necessary.
I really discount dealer sales at shows because we can send them stuff anytime. I did get a few dealer orders and took a few regular orders. I only had a few of my pieces and was selling some stuff from my collection and did better than expected.
In my opinion, from my view, the show attendance was down Friday, way better Saturday and super slow Sunday.
I used to do the best on Friday early afternoon , Saturday mid day and hardly anything on Sunday. All of my sales were made strung out throughout each day.

I watched that Beltzer guy who was walking around all weekend with a BROWN bag, I followed him for a long time and pinned him down outside of the hotel. He had knife pics in his bag!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Could not bust him, so we became quick friends!!!
What a great guy. Thanks buddy, I had a blast talking about the different legends of the knife world and knife stuff in general.
BB


HAHAHA!! Bobby, I had a great time outside the hotel, chattin' about all the big names of the past. Just shootin' the sh*t like we knew each other for years. But I shoulda brought a bright yellow bag!! Just goes to show that whether the sales are as good as years before or not, lotsa knife people are!
 
The show went really well for me, sold all my knives.
Got to meet a lot of great folks and talk knives.
Look forward to the next one.

Todd
 
I'd thought the attendance must have been down, as the aisles were not packed as in previous years. The enlarged show area also had something to do with that.
Even so,I was sold out by Sat early, and took orders the rest of the show. My most successful year dollar-wise.
More important, met and talked with what seemed like half of"the bladeforumites", went to the CKCA banquet and talked all nite,talked to seven years of clients and all my maker friends. I'm hoarse but I'm happy! Blade is still the event for me.
Thanks to all I met,

John
 
I didn't sell a thang and a couple of other guys back there in the Bob Uecker seats with me who had letters behind their names didn't seem to fair much better. I met with a couple of customers and finalized the details orders, which was nice and I did essentially run off one lowballer on Saturday. I was kinda run down all weekend for some reason. My best friend that i went to dinner with on Thursday night came down with some kind of bad cold/flu, so I wander if I was fighting that off a bit. My biggest shock at the show was how revealing those ugly mercury vapor lights were:eek: Unfortunately, I tried to "clean up" on of the my blades and that didn't help...lol.
 
Considering that I've never missed a Blade Show since 1982 a lot of them run together. For this one the show just felt different, the usual rush wasn't there for me.

It was great seeing old friends, making new ones, buying some knives, selling a few, doing editorial work. On the pocketbook side it was just as enjoyable when the tables were $350 though.

Part of the tone of a show comes from how a show starts. Dan Delavan of Plaza Cutlery was helping me some, so I had exhibitor badges for he and Pam, and he called while I was still driving down to the show from Chattanooga.

They couldn't find my packet at check in. They'd looked under "V", and then under "B" and then just sorta looked up at the ceiling. (That's when Dan called me.)

Recalling the thread about this last week I suggested the look under the "J" for J Bruce Voyles. There it was.

The only thing that bothers me about all this was I had called a friend at Blade, informed them of the snafu we were talking about on here, suggested they check out the forums, and also added that a simple solution would be to simply add a single sheet of paper with the alphabetical listings in an order in which someone could make some sense of it.

I was told that suggestion was passed along to the powers that be. They must have chosen to ignore the suggestion--which is their option. I know my program didn't have an insert in it.

With the old, "sow the wind, reap the whirlwind" adage, if the show management thus found the check-in to be something described by Gunny Highway in Heartbreak Ridge, and for some exhibitors that set the tone for their entire show--well...enjoy.

With this economy I don't think anyone expected an increased attendance show. Following this thread a few weeks out told most of us that a number of collectors would not be attending. However, I live 3 hours away from the show, and our local morning show was giving away free tickets. The show promoters certainly got the word out about the show.

I have never heard a knifemaker with poor sales at a show say the problem was the knives they had brought. With this economy a knifemaker who came into that show with the same knives at the same prices and expected to have the same demand has been breathing too many solvent and epoxy fumes.

One good friend sold out in 22 minutes last year. This year they still had a great show--but it took until Sunday to sell out. I found Sunday to be one of the best days of the show for me.

Saturday night there were more than a few makers I talked to that were concerned on how the show might finish up. If you only get four big paydays a year you cannot afford to blow any of them.

Frank Centofante came into the show with a new style knife that sold for less than his traditional folders, I was told, and he sold out quickly. This was brilliant. There were not a lot of makers doing similar things.

At one of the old Blade Shows in Knoxville, TN during a small recession Corbet Sigman came into the show with a line of wood handled hunters marked "CRS", with the knives priced at $65.00 without a sheath. (He charged $10.00 for the sheath). He sold out.

A maker has to react to market conditions. And so do the show promoters. However, tables for 2010 at the Blade show are going up. They added over 100 more tables. If you do not increase the number of customers there is only one direction a show can go. There comes a point in table rates at which some marginal knifemakers are going to finally get around to looking at costs versus income and have to make some hard choices about their show schedules.

High table rates may look good to a corporate bottom line--for a while.

The reason that the Blade Show is in Atlanta and not in Knoxville, TN, is when I ran the Blade Show we were obsessed with making the show bigger and bigger and bigger.

As we got bigger the sales for the majority of the makers got less. And we listened and were concerned. I've always operated on the theory that when you take a maker's money for his table you are also taking on the obligation to do everything within your power to get buyers into the show.

But that can only work up to a point. At some point the maker has to take responsibility for his own marketing.

Did the makers who did not sell well at Blade send a card to all his customers telling them they would be there?

Is the maker making what his customers want or is he following his "art"?
Remember the word artist often has "starving" in front of it.

A maker that is only making what he wants to make and expects the world to rush to him without any consideration for what his customers want has little right to complain about poor sales.

If you ignore marketing do not be surprised if the market ignores you.

The boost that launched the Blade Show in Atlanta was in large part because when we moved to Atlanta from Knoxville we dramatically reduced the size of the show.

Knoxville got too big. It was what I wanted as show manager at the time--but I had made a mistake.

The number of tables in Knoxville that we felt had thinned out the buying power of the shows attendees to the point that it was not working well? 700 tables. When we moved to the Waverly ballrooms we had a max of around 500 tables in all the rooms we used. That was a dramatic increase in sales for those who attended.

I was told that this year's Blade Show had around 700 tables.
 
This was my 7th consecutive year attending the Blade Show and the first time I had knives on the table. I am sorry to say that sales were very poor for me as they were for a lot of knifemakers that I talked to.

Attendance was way down and those who did attend didn't seem to be buying. It was definitely the smallest opening bell VIP crowd that I have ever seen. There was a decent size crowd for a while on Saturday but Sunday was very slow.

One of the main reasons I attend is to stock up on supplies. I am sorry to say this was disappointing too. Good quality stag was not to be found. Mammoth and MOP was availabe but grossly overpriced and most was still on the table at closing time. There was some good quailty wood available but again at premium prices. Brad Vice of Alabama Damascus reported good sales but off from previous years. Mosaic pins had climed to $30-$40 per foot from the vendors that I visited. I did find some good buys in stingray, ostrich and gator for sheaths.

Unfortunately, there were a LOT of table holders who are justifiably ticked off with the new show management. Long time table holders were moved back to less favorable spots. Non-Guild members had front row and premium spots in the Guild section while the president of the Guild was assigned to the 7th row. I was told that it was the same in the ABS section with non-ABS members receiving better locatons than members. I was told that the managemnet's response to complaints was "Well, we could take down the (Guild/ABS) signs".

I have been on the waiting list for two years and was never offered a table even though they were reportedly available. A friend, who had also been on the waiting list for two years, did get a table in a terrible location in the back corner and asked me to share his table with him. I soon learned that another friend, who had never been on the waiting list, called 2 days before the show and got a 4th row table in the handmade section. This was NOT a cancellation. I checked the exhibitor list and that table had never been assigned.

I know of another newcomer who was given a front row table in the handmade section.

Another exhibitor who had a table at ONE previous show moved from back row last year to 2nd row this year.

Another 9-year exhibitor and maker of high end folders was moved BACK this year and his usual table was given to someone selling display cases. He vowed never to return.

I am afraid that the stellar tradition of the Blade Show came to an abrupt halt this year and if the powers to be don't do some major damage control it may never again be the show-of-shows it usually is.
 
A member of the Blade Show staff told us at the CKCA booth that FRIDAY's attendance was up 16% over last year.

I guess I am one of the attendees that felt that attendance was up on Friday, but slightly less than in the past on Saturday. I don't do the Pit so have no reference in that arena.

I arrived early and stayed past closing every day, talked to dozens of Makers and I found distinct camps. What I heard that Sold really well - Tacticals and Custom Slipjoints. Others reported very slow Sales - Forged Hunters, Stock Removal Hunters, high end Camp/Choppers.

I am sure this is not true on all counts (allowing for the really popular Makers who rarely have slow sales) but I do feel that as a majority it was indicative of what was going on in the seperate camps.

One particular Maker who everyone who's a student of knife history would know stated to me that in all of his years making knives he had never had any cancellations - ever - until this year....and so far he has had four.

There were many new faces there this year (Custom Makers & Dealers) - of these that I spoke with most stated they had indeed paid their Bills+.
 
Others reported very slow Sales - Forged Hunters, Stock Removal Hunters, high end Camp/Choppers.

Maybe I just went into it with a different mindset but I honestly thought my sales were wonderful. given that this is my first year at Blade I hardly expected to sell anything.

it's all in how you look at it I 'spose
 
As for Mr. Voyles' comments about the new management and their handling of the show, I heard rumor that there were some very terse words exchanged between the head of a certain organization and the new Blade Show crew. Well, more like a good old fashioned butt chewin'. I expect to see suppliers, etc like Kenny Rowe and Uncle Al who are long time loyal associate members and supporters of the ABS having their regular tables in the ABS section, but what I didn't expect was someone selling purses. I didn't have as much of a problem with a couple of the non-ABS makers getting stuck in our section, but the table assignment was still not well done. I know that one of two ABS smiths managed to get moved forward a bit, but they were long time show exhibitors who had been asking for that for a long time and one had to basically ride the show staff to get that done. I did here about one ABS smith who was allegedly moved BACK 10 rows from where they were last year.
I may have lost one potential sale to a gentleman who was there primarily buying a LOT very collectable old knives because of my position (money spent by the time the guy got back to my table), but I expected to be in the back because it was my first show. I was surprised that they stuck Stephan over on the opposite side of the room, but, in hindsight, that actually worked out because he was over there where folks were spending money..lol.
One thing that I did learn is that a pretty broad spectrum of people seemed to like the little Moran/Randall style walnut fighter that I had on my table. Dan Farr told me to keep an eye on which knife the people fondle the most when they are at you table even if they don't buy anything and that was the one as far as I could tell. Even the folks who were clearly modern tactical buyers dug it I had Coop take a picture of it for future advertising.
 
it's all in how you look at it I 'spose

I think that that is true. We see it as a chance to meet our customers and introduce ourselves to new ones. The sales made at the Blade Show are insignificant when compared to total sales, but friends and contacts made there are invaluable. They are what generate repeat and multiple sales.

Daniel Winkler and I were waiting line to get our registration packages and I made the comment that we pretty much have to put up with whatever happens as far as the slipups at the Blade. Daniel said that if they told us we had to wear our underwear on the outside of our pants we would all do it. I was thinking how I would put pockets on them and wondered if it would really make any difference if we went to the Blade Show or not. Maybe now, but in a year or so who knows? Most of our sales come from people that don't go to the Blade Show and are generated by other marketing efforts. Many of those that do buy from us at the Blade Show have seen our work in other places and look for us at the Blade Show, but we are only an e-mail away.

What Tennknifeman said about marketing is worth reading again and I believe that other venues will make the Blade Show less important for many makers.
 
Frank Centofante came into the show with a new style knife that sold for less than his traditional folders, I was told, and he sold out quickly. This was brilliant. There were not a lot of makers doing similar things.

At one of the old Blade Shows in Knoxville, TN during a small recession Corbet Sigman came into the show with a line of wood handled hunters marked "CRS", with the knives priced at $65.00 without a sheath. (He charged $10.00 for the sheath). He sold out.

I would have thought that more people would be making 'joe average' custom knives to pad their bottom line, and get more potential customers by being mindful of the economic changes many people are realizing. I'm surprised there weren't a fair number of people doing this. :confused:
 
I would have thought that more people would be making 'joe average' custom knives to pad their bottom line, and get more potential customers by being mindful of the economic changes many people are realizing. I'm surprised there weren't a fair number of people doing this. :confused:


Jerry Hossom brought more blades this year than ever --- but they were predominantly small knives, many were simple utility knives with a much lower price point. He obviously was thinking about economic changes, offering a more affordable custom knife.

He sold out, but it took a little longer than in years past.
 
Jerry Hossom brought more blades this year than ever --- but they were predominantly small knives, many were simple utility knives with a much lower price point. He obviously was thinking about economic changes, offering a more affordable custom knife.

He sold out, but it took a little longer than in years past.

I thought Jerry retired from knifemaking? Glad to see he is making knives.
 
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