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How do you hold a kerambit?
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lol... well do you live near pa....? if so i could deservingly obtain one....lolRL said:
seriously its very easy to disarm a knife and that hole would pull all the meat off your finger in the process... i just dont like them,,, to risky.... but hey everything is a risk...
i would have one as a collector item, but i wouldnt carry it...
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bravado, you have lived up to your name, and as a person who has studied pentjak a few years back.... i still stand by my words, that hole is a black hole for your finger in a confrontation with any one that knows their stuff....Bravado said:No gimmick unless you consider Pentjak Silat a gimmick. If I had five minutes with you in person believe me I could change your mind!
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bravado, even in Pentjak Silat they teach simple knife disarms that would cripple you if your finger was through any hole.... come on man.... reel that in.
Yes, and they are very hard to successfully do.
You train in disarms, but you don't go for them as your primary technique. If you get the opportunity, great, but actively going for the disarm without first neutralizing the direct threat or working to create the opportunity is suicidal.
You train in disarms, but you don't go for them as your primary technique. If you get the opportunity, great, but actively going for the disarm without first neutralizing the direct threat or working to create the opportunity is suicidal.
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Yeh, I don't think this is the place to criticize one technique over another.
If you guys want to refer someone to another site or sites, cool.
As with any form of self defense, and its associated tool(s), there are numerous schools of thought/technique/stance/etc. So be it.
(and it was Jim first, then Slim after Willie "Slim" McCoy "come to get my money back")
If you guys want to refer someone to another site or sites, cool.
As with any form of self defense, and its associated tool(s), there are numerous schools of thought/technique/stance/etc. So be it.
(and it was Jim first, then Slim after Willie "Slim" McCoy "come to get my money back")
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how do we determine the size ring to go with on the new kerambit?
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RL said:
in regards to grabbing the blade out of anyones hand, yes, it would mess me up really really bad. but chances are its not going to cut through my boot soles if its in a position where i can try to kick it.
its worth getting a shoe and hitting the blade when its in that position just to see what it will do to your index finger, and your middle finger. it may never happen to you when your using it in that way - but its worth knowing what will happen if it does.
im not going to get into the discussion of wether one should or shouldnt use that grip or that technique - but its worth pointing out that potential occurence
it seems like this discussion should be moved to the practical tactical forum...
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Bravado said:In all honesty I think I would run rather than face someone with a knife in a confrontation no matter what their skill level or type of knife they had!
as would i... i've just used a ninja keychain (the kind with the 2 spikes coming out of your knuckles) in stabbing drills on solid objects (wood and stone), and it really honestly feels like its going to break the insides of your fingers having a peice of metal bang on them like it does.
holding a karembit like that looks to be an awefully similar situation. it looks to have no real control of left or right torque without putting strain on a rather small bone, and no real control in general as to being able to get any pressure out of the cut without being in a rather ackward position - and even getting cuts off, the counter pressure of the entire knife is resting on a small peice of metal thats resting on the back of your middle finger.
if it works it works, but it looks like a very bad set up to me
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i wasnt tryying to slag anyones techniques i was just saying why i wouldnt use this type of blade in a combat or sd application.....
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To reply to 2 concerns I@ve seen here....
1) Although it`s now usually seen as only a weapon, the karambit is also cosidered a utility blade on rubber plantations. The ring serves to keep a firm hold on the knife when the hand is covered in gunk.
A knife isn`t a pistol and the ring isn`t a trigger guard. Knives a sharp. And if it`s a Busse, it`s Hair-popping sharp! Try grabbing it out of a closed fist and you`ll lose a hand before I worry about my finger.
2) Take a good look at the picture of the War Hog. The feature that makes it unique from all other Karambits so far is the position of the ring. Instead of coming straight out of the handle right at the butt, it is slightly canted towards the belly of the handle and theres a slight indent at the end of the handle.
When you hold it in the extended grip, your middle finger rides in this indent and the knife is braced against the fist.
You really have to hold a War Hog to appreciate how much more control,comfort, and leverage this small change gives you. Jerry is a master of design and I seriously predict that this is how everyone will make theirs once people get a hold of one.
Just thinking about it makes me need "a moment".
Dave
PS- Any takers on that snowblower/daughter trade?
1) Although it`s now usually seen as only a weapon, the karambit is also cosidered a utility blade on rubber plantations. The ring serves to keep a firm hold on the knife when the hand is covered in gunk.
A knife isn`t a pistol and the ring isn`t a trigger guard. Knives a sharp. And if it`s a Busse, it`s Hair-popping sharp! Try grabbing it out of a closed fist and you`ll lose a hand before I worry about my finger.
2) Take a good look at the picture of the War Hog. The feature that makes it unique from all other Karambits so far is the position of the ring. Instead of coming straight out of the handle right at the butt, it is slightly canted towards the belly of the handle and theres a slight indent at the end of the handle.
When you hold it in the extended grip, your middle finger rides in this indent and the knife is braced against the fist.
You really have to hold a War Hog to appreciate how much more control,comfort, and leverage this small change gives you. Jerry is a master of design and I seriously predict that this is how everyone will make theirs once people get a hold of one.
Just thinking about it makes me need "a moment".
Dave
PS- Any takers on that snowblower/daughter trade?