How Long and Thick is ENOUGH?????

I wouldn't go any smaller than a 4" length and 3/16" thickness with a full flat grind, and ideally thats in an environment where you're not going to be doing much wood splitting and shelter building (desert comes to mind).

As you get further into wetter and colder environments larger sized knives become of greater importance. I've been using a rak-6 for the last year, and it's been working well enough, but I just bought a Scrap Yard Scrapper 6 that I intend to use as a general camping knife from here on out. 6" length, .275" thickness, full flat grind made out of indestructible steel oughta sail through wood just fine.

in the coldest, wettest and harshest of environments, I wouldn't trust anything less than 9.5 inches long and .25" thick. a CS Trailmaster would see you throught (a nutnfancy favorite), but I have a Scrap Yard Dogfather on the way. Size matter when you're gonna have to baton through larger logs to get dry wood to start a fire, and when shelter building becomes a high priority and a larger more complex operation.

There's a lot to be said for machetes too I suppose. but that's not currently a part of my system... which brings me to an important point, much of this is system and environment dependent. If you're looking for the smallest knife to fit in your BOB, then you need to consider what you'll need it to do. If you're hiking through tall brush, and carving away at trees to get the grubs inside for food, packing a machete might be a worthwhile investment. but I'm not sure I'd trust it as my primary knife for batoning, chopping trees, and shelter building. If you're in the desert, there's little concern over the moisture content of the wood you find, so you won't have to worry too much about making super fine kindling. and if you have a BOB, you have firestarting tinder anyways...

It's all about what you're going to do with it. As a general, all purpose, don't go into the wilderness without it, most versatile sized blade... Go with the Scrapper 6 sized blades. 6" blade length, .25" thickness, minimum, preferably with a full flat grind.

But maybe that's just me...
 
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1/4 is Enough for me.
I hate moras becouse I can snap them with my fingers.
But so many SF guys find it moras to be the best survival knife all around...
incredible..... Net+fever:eek::D
 

What is the Minimum blade length and thickness you would bet your life on???



That's a pretty darn serious bet! If I'm knowingly betting my life, I'll try to up the odds and choose the biggest, toughest knife I have... a Busse Battle Mistress (top one in photo below). I believe it's 9.5" x .25".

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But for the average hike or short camping trip where the odds are very small that I'll be betting my life on my knife, a 4" x .125" blade will keep me pretty worry-free. Something like a Fallkniven F1....

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...or an Off The Map bushcrafter.

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Stay sharp,
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well, i just ordered up some outdoorsy blades and i had to ask myself exactly these kinds of questions before i made my final decisions.

so, 2.8" long and 0.14" thick is what i came up with: the Fallkniven WM1.

mind you, i'm pairing it with a 5.1" long, 0.2" thick S1 too.
 
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My Ray Laconico, sure its only a 3 inch blade, and an 1/8" thick, but it is always with me, and has never let me down.

I know, I know, it wont baton a 6 inch thick log, but it will be there when i get back from finding a smaller piece of wood. For shelter building and fire starting, it works for me.
 
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My Ray Laconico, sure its only a 3 inch blade, and an 1/8" thick, but it is always with me, and has never let me down.

I know, I know, it wont baton a 6 inch thick log, but it will be there when i get back from finding a smaller piece of wood. For shelter building and fire starting, it works for me.

Ray does make a knife you can bet your life on!!!!!:thumbup:
 
I'd hate to bet my life on any knife...would feel more comfortable with a baby glock in the back pocket. Hopefully one would rely on sheer brain power in this supposed survival scenario. The vast majority of us will be caught with nothing but a SAK!

Let us all remember that the most specialized tool is worthless if we don't have it with us in time of need. I would suggest a CS Master Hunter, Fehrman PM or a Mora 2000 as about the most diminutive blades I would carry in answer to the orginal question posted.

We could fulminate the rest of the day regarding these choices, yet I favor some of the answers we are getting from Canada. Thin knives have been around since Hector was a pup and there is a reason the old timers who LIVED in the bush had a 'praeferentia' for axes. One more time...use the right tool for the designated job, mileage may vary.
 
Are rat tails available anywhere? Or just the used, for sale forums? I missed them years ago when produced, and I'm regretting it.
 
I never really feel under knifed with this little ML Survivalist, tough as nails and sharp as hell !

3" Blade of 1/8" 1095, 4" handle.

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I would be perfectly content with my Busse game warden, at 3 inch blade length, 0.14 inch blade thickness, and 7 inch overall length.

Now for the accompanying question...

What is the smallest pair of boots that you would rely on to save your life????

Men's 12 (US sizing), or 13 depending on the brand...
 
Fehrman Peace Maker
Blade Size: 4" x 1.25" x .19"
Overall Length: 8.5"
Steel: CPM-3V
Hardness: 57-59 Rc
Handle: Linen Micarta

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Ok I'll play. I would take my rat7 in 1095, NWA knife by Nick, and mora 2k ( I beat the snot out of it and it ate everything it gave it). The smallest I have is mora 510 and a rat 3 in d2. As for a folder that I have on me is my LM Wave and Various SAKs.
 
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