How NOT to disassemble and maintain your Sebenza. Nick Shabazz total fail.

SurfisLove said:
This confuses me, on every "Sebenza assembly instructions" I've seen, you're supposed to put grease on the slab and then put the washer on the greased slab in order to hold the washer in place while you assemble everything. Am I misunderstanding you or have I been doing it wrong?
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You been doing it wrong:) Watch the JDavis vid, which shows what most would consider "normal". Even better, go to minute 7:00 in part two of the BHQ CRK factory tour and watch Trace put grease only on the blade, not on the slabs. Then he puts the knife together like JDavis:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Nj6p8p6vfZQ .

Doesn't get any more official than that. For the record, I haven't seen any vids of anyone who glues their washers to the slabs, but I'm sure they are out there. I don't want any grease on the back of the washers myself.
 
Thanks for posting this, Cody! What a grease mess :-))

If I observed correctly, he didn't even pay attention to put the washers exactly back in place the way they were installed by the factory. He just drops them out of the knife on the table and puts them back into the knife by taking a 50/50 bet about whether the correct side is facing the scale/blade. But maybe I am too picky .....
 
Question about the washers, even though I make sure not to grease the slab side of the washer my small washer rotates a little bit with the blade. At one point it was actually stuck to the blade and rotated 100% with it but I removed some grease and cleaned it and it rotates much less but still doesn't gall against the titanium like I've heard it should. It opens and closes fine though. Is this something I should be worried about long term?
 
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blanco112 said:
Question about the washers, even though I make sure not to grease the slab side of the washer my small washer rotates a little bit with the blade. At one point it was actually stuck to the blade and rotated 100% with it but I removed some grease and cleaned it and it rotates much less but still doesn't gall against the titanium like I've heard it should. It opens and closes fine though. Is this something I should be worried about long term?
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My small washer does this to, I don't think its a problem. It happens because the washer sticks to the blade with the grease. It's def. worst the first days after a cleaning/lube job.
 
blanco112 said:
Question about the washers, even though I make sure not to grease the slab side of the washer my small washer rotates a little bit with the blade. At one point it was actually stuck to the blade and rotated 100% with it but I removed some grease and cleaned it and it rotates much less but still doesn't gall against the titanium like I've heard it should. It opens and closes fine though. Is this something I should be worried about long term?
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It certainly happens. I wouldn't worry about it too much, but I wouldn't encourage it either.. I would guess most Sebemza 21s end up with some bronze rubbed off on the slabs over time. If it ever became a problem, CRK will fit new washers for free. It is one small improvement I appreciate about the Inkisi, with its washers "locked" in place.
 
kidcongo said:
It certainly happens. I wouldn't worry about it too much, but I wouldn't encourage it either.. I would guess most Sebemza 21s end up with some bronze rubbed off on the slabs over time. If it ever became a problem, CRK will fit new washers for free. It is one small improvement I appreciate about the Inkisi, with its washers "locked" in place.
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353 said:
My small washer does this to, I don't think its a problem. It happens because the washer sticks to the blade with the grease. It's def. worst the first days after a cleaning/lube job.
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Yeah I think it was worse before because I had actually applied some grease to the slab side per ApostleP's video (he puts it in the holes but it gets all over). So I took it apart and cleaned that side off but some still sneaks through the perforated washer holes. It's gotten better in the week since the last cleaning.
 
P2.1 editorial follows:

These utubers come off as know it alls and they INVARIBLY screw things up, which just shows they go shooting off their mouths with very little actual knowledge...

Watch 5 min. of Shabazz or Apostle P's vids and it's pretty apparent that 80% of the time they're talking thru their hat, 15% of the time they are stating what they "believe" to be true, and 5% of the time they're working off what they've heard/watched other people say...a very poor formula for informative vids...basically a very lazy way of instructing folks...it's ok for entertainment and stating personal opinions, but for transfer of useful knowledge-- not so much.

I have mixed feelings about jdavis...just when I think he's done his homework, he goes off on a tangent and does something screwy like put up a vid "tuning" his Sebenza's phosphor bronze washers...then there's other stuff I'm not gonna reference in the CRK site, ugh.

A lot of this is entertainment driven, I get it.

In that spirit of enter-info-tainment, a few humble <personal> suggestions from me to our utubers...

Shabazz: not everyone thinks a "wise guy" accent is funny, it grates on some folks' nerves...I watched your vid on the Slysz Bowie and I liked your personal take on the aesthetics, but I can't find myself getting thru more than 5 min. of any of your other vids. because of your heavy accent and mispronunciations...invest in a "professional" spokesman that would appeal to EVERYONE ...I think that Ted "golden voice" Williams guy may be available

Apostle P: get a stand in set of "stunt hands" or put on some gloves dude, those pecan shell finger tips you've been cursed with are freaking me out ... and trust me on this one--- your subs. would much rather hear you hock and spit every few minutes than sit thru 15 of you rolling the same phlegm ball around in your gullet...on second thought, you just hire a spokesman, too.

jdavis: of everyone listed, it's very obvious you've done the most homework...I know because I check up on your claims via the manufacturers' lit. or website or else I've read the manuals myself before watching your vids...still, you can be too dogmatic and take yourself too seriously at times also...pride can go before a great fall-- you probably know that better than anyone else listed, nuff said.

BTW, this post was intended to have <a little> comedic element to it, so don't get butthurt if you're a sub of one of these guys...except with ApostleP, I am totally serious about the fingertips and snot issues-- unsubscribed.
 
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ApostleP is currently still a member here..I have no opinions really. Never watched his vids.
Jdavis used to be a member here..maybe still is, but doesn't post here anymore. Eventually, his knowledge surpassed Chris knowledge and experience..there may have been words at one point.
Have to date watched two of the Shabazz instructional vids. The Ti Lock instructional vid..worst ever directions..Would lead to damage at some point. The Sebenza instructional just confirms that he shoots from the hip when it comes to the order of operations and thought input.
The voice just reminds me of Barry Kripke from the Big Bang Theory...somewhat comical, but variety is the spice of life. 'twould be a boring world if we were all the same.
 
353 said:
Yeah, it's good. He could cut the lube by 50% though, but yeah good instructions.
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maybe even cut it a bit more than that...

May sound a bit nitpicky <but I'd argue that it's major> but I wouldn't have used the end of the wrench to retrieve the washer, either...tooth pick or q-tip only...

the hardened tip of that torx wrench could easily mar the interface.
 
I typically don't agree with Nick's opinions, and have a very hard time watching his videos.

His comments and negativity about the Shirogorov 95 really made it clear to me that he doesn't have the experience or knowledge that many other knife enthusiasts have. People like different things, I get that. But his lack of technical knowledge and understanding about different knives really shows through. Ex: Backspacer VS standoffs, Milled out pockets VS not, teflon VS bronze washers, etc.. Its all opinion based without educating the audience on the WHY.
 
Thanks for all the suggestions on technique, everybody, and I'm glad my "total fail" was at least entertaining to the CRK crowd! I just do it the way that works for me, but you all appear to have made a science (and rather an orthodoxy) of it!

I'll give some of the suggestions (less grease, no grease on the back side or Chicago screws) a try next time I need to take one down, although the "slide in the blade assembly to the assembled handle" method drives me nuts every time I've tried it, and I still deeply dislike the feel of the CRK grease. So, I'll still carefully stack and use a different lubricant. But again, I do appreciate the pointers from people who have thought about this a LOT.

Alas, not much to be done about the voice though. Appreciate the advice and the views, and hope you either enjoy the rest of my (non-CRK) videos, or, as seems the bigger desire here, successfully avoid them!
 
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bhyde said:
The Ti Lock instructional vid..worst ever directions..Would lead to damage at some point.
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I'm actually really curious what I'm doing wrong on the TiLock, particularly in terms of possibility of damage, as that would be bad, and I'd be happy to re-shoot. My method has worked nicely for me, but is there another method you can link me to which doesn't have this risk you're talking about?
 
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As with all reviewers (books, film, theater, etc.) it's really nice when you find one whose opinions/tastes are generally in line with your own.

Nick seems to be in the same ballpark as I am. The things that had me scratching my head about my own Sebenza are the same things he commented on in his reviews. His opinions about several other knives were very much in line with my own impressions.

Like most of us, he's a light user. I live in the city and work in a hospital, so I value a knife that carries easily, works smoothly, and slices very well. Giving him a hard time for not being a "serious knife user" strikes me as a little silly. I bet few self-proclaimed "hard users" are doing anything more onerous than slicing an apple or opening a package from time to time. And those who do rely on pocket knives to chop down trees, pulverize cinder blocks, and hoist engines out of trucks probably aren't using $800 customs to do so!

Anyway, to me Nick represents a normal, urban-dwelling knife enthusiast. I've recently subscribed to his channel. And I'm going to send him a few cool knives to test (if he's interested).
 
FrequencyAndSulphur said:
Thanks for all the suggestions on technique, everybody, and I'm glad my "total fail" was at least entertaining to the CRK crowd! I just do it the way that works for me, but you all appear to have made a science (and rather an orthodoxy) of it!
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Dunno about a science, certainly not an "orthodoxy", sometimes there is a right way to do things and a wrong way to do things. You imply people are being to critical but you are meant to be critical when posting a "How to" video. If you cant assemble a knife properly and use some half assed method to get it back together thats fine, just dont post it as an instructional video and claim people are being fanatical for correcting you.


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FrequencyAndSulphur said:
I'm actually really curious what I'm doing wrong on the TiLock, particularly in terms of possibility of damage, as that would be bad, and I'd be happy to re-shoot. My method has worked nicely for me, but is there another method you can link me to which doesn't have this risk you're talking about?
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Prying the lockbar, prying the backspacer out of the handles..not good. They were not installed that way.
If you like, there is a how-to stickied ^^ up there that you can see how I did it. It may or may not make more sense.

For what it's worth, pictures have their place in instruction, but it's nice to have video that can be a good reference. Easier to follow as you can see all the nuances happening.
 
bhyde said:
Prying the lockbar, prying the backspacer out of the handles..not good. They were not installed that way.
If you like, there is a how-to stickied ^^ up there that you can see how I did it. It may or may not make more sense.

For what it's worth, pictures have their place in instruction, but it's nice to have video that can be a good reference. Easier to follow as you can see all the nuances happening.
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Thanks for the response. I'll check that out! Also, for what it's worth, I've stickied a link to this thread on that video. Anybody who watches can now read the dissenting opinion :)
 
FrequencyAndSulphur said:
Thanks for the response. I'll check that out! Also, for what it's worth, I've stickied a link to this thread on that video. Anybody who watches can now read the dissenting opinion :)
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You're welcome..I hope that you find some zen as you are a leader when it comes to these things, good or bad people follow the vids you are doing for direction as many of the other people that were brought up here. ApostleP, JDavis and I am sure a whole host of others are subject to critique of method..For that matter, my own method is going to be subject to critique as well..When someone can show me a better way, I will correct the how-to post to reflect that methodology.
 
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