How thick do you want your 15N20?

guys - remember, you can already get the THIN 15n20. This is just a question of what size the THICK stock should be.
1/8"
3/16" would work but not as well. If you combine 3/16" 15n20 and 1/4" w2 or 1075 or such, they would appear to be about the same size as layers in the finished pattern weld because the w2 or 1075 is going to compress relatively more than the 15n20.

kc
 
kevin -the professor said:
guys - remember, you can already get the THIN 15n20. This is just a question of what size the THICK stock should be.
1/8"
3/16" would work but not as well. If you combine 3/16" 15n20 and 1/4" w2 or 1075 or such, they would appear to be about the same size as layers in the finished pattern weld because the w2 or 1075 is going to compress relatively more than the 15n20.

Kevin the professor- how thin and where to get it? thinnest I can find is .073" (I think)
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Yeah bear in mind that 1/32 stock would allow 200 layer stacks in a single weld with reasonable working height.

I understand the desire to see some thicker stock for making mono steel blades, but I doubt many of you are going to start using it exclusively, and i'd be willing to bet that the vast majority of 15n20 is, and will continue to be consumed, for pattern welding.


Someone mentioned that you can always forge down thicker stock, but below 1/8, for making damascus, that's not really true. From my perspective its the opposite; you can always weld thinner stock up to make it thicker.

Not saying it wouldn't br nice to see some thicker stuff for mono steel blades, it would, especially for the stock removal guys, but something thinner than the standard thicknesses would be a real boon for some of us also.
 
Im all for getting to a high layer count quickly but 1/32 does not appeal to me I think it would be a pain in to work with. No thanks not for me. In my mind 1/8 stock would be very atractive size Now as for as width's go two or three would be very nice. As for 3/16th some would sell to but nothing like the 1/8 and might or not be worth the extra cost for the extra size.
 
Kevin Casey said:
kevin -the professor said:
guys - remember, you can already get the THIN 15n20. This is just a question of what size the THICK stock should be.
1/8"
3/16" would work but not as well. If you combine 3/16" 15n20 and 1/4" w2 or 1075 or such, they would appear to be about the same size as layers in the finished pattern weld because the w2 or 1075 is going to compress relatively more than the 15n20.

Kevin the professor- how thin and where to get it? thinnest I can find is .073" (I think)
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Kelly Cupples has .058
Stan
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Kevin, the stuff in that size range is already available because that is a standard thickness for the shiny hardened strip stock in big rolls that is used for big bandsaw blades. I do believe that is what we typically use for damascus today.
Kevin Casey said:
geez I hate to be the odd man out on this but I'd really like it thin like .050" or even less..... I like dark blades and using thin 15N20 with sizes of 1/8 or 3/16" 1080 makes a real dark blade. I always use 1/2 the thickness of the 1080 when I can and thinner would be even better. :eek: :D
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Joe - thanks for mentioning where the size comes from - I just knew that thin 15n20 was available (roughly 1/16" and 1/20") and always has been during my brief knife making career.

yes - kelly cupples has both of the two standard sizes, Admiral steel only has one. Admiral typically sells theirs in sheets, Kelly will cut it into strips for you (or his is already in strips).

Aldo has the strips, too. Aldo, thanks for thinking of us. We love you!
kc
 
I have done a couple of billets with the really thin stuff and it just doesn't show up once the layer count gets above 80, yes it's there but it doesn't have the pizazz that I look for in a thin stripe and it doesn't have enough width to really stand up as a design element. 1/8 inch really is the minimum I will use from now on

-Page
 
I'll be the oddball here and request 1/4-3/8" thick, this stuff would make an excellent chopper.....:cool:
 
Kevin Casey, I have 2 tons of .058 in stock. Never a problem.

Professor, you're right. I would say that we could find it thinner. These sizes are available. .125 is hard to find and none existent in the annealed form. The mill I work with is a hot roll mill. There minimum thickness would probably be around .080.

Phil, if you buy 14,000# of a 15,000# smelt you have a deal. I'll keep 1000# for the occasional customer :)

Brett and Dan, we can cut it any width or length you need. It will probably come in 15.75" wide. This way if you do want to make a Chef Knife from it you can order it wider and we can saw cut it for you.

I'm wondering if having 1084 made in .100 would go over. :)

Aldo
 
Aldo Bruno said:
Phil, if you buy 14,000# of a 15,000# smelt you have a deal. I'll keep 1000# for the occasional customer :)
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I'll get back to you after I win the lottery. ;)

I'm wondering if having 1084 made in .100 would go over. :)

Aldo
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Not for me. .125" 15n20 is perfect for 1/4" 1084, in most cases.
 
Aldo Bruno said:
Kevin Casey, I have 2 tons of .058 in stock. Never a problem.

Professor, you're right. I would say that we could find it thinner. These sizes are available. .125 is hard to find and none existent in the annealed form. The mill I work with is a hot roll mill. There minimum thickness would probably be around .080.

Phil, if you buy 14,000# of a 15,000# smelt you have a deal. I'll keep 1000# for the occasional customer :)

Brett and Dan, we can cut it any width or length you need. It will probably come in 15.75" wide. This way if you do want to make a Chef Knife from it you can order it wider and we can saw cut it for you.

I'm wondering if having 1084 made in .100 would go over. :)

Aldo
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I would really like to get some 1084 in .100 x 1 and 15n20 in .100 x 1 and 2.
 
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Gentlemen,

The 1/8" 15N20 will arrive at the beginning of July. I will have it cut to 1", 1 1/4", 1 1/2" and 2" x 48. WIDER sizes will be cut to order at the shop and if you want it cut down to shorter pieces we can accommodate.

I have .058, .065, .072, .078 in stock. I will have .095(3/32") in stock in a few weeks as well.

As for the .100(3/32") 1084 I will have it rolled when we smelt the next load. Don't ask me for 1/16 cause I won't do it!(yet!)
 
I think the .100 1084 will be awesome to have for us newbs with simple HT setups. A B&T knife in 1/8" just doesn't look right. The .125 15N20 wil be great for kitchen knives as well.

Patiently waiting to place an order....any idea of an ETA for the 1084?


-Xander
 
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