How to spot a fake or real sebenza?

SuzukiGS750EZ said:
When did we test authenticity by seeing scratching other knives with a blade?
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I don't know man xD but I can't make him do alot of tests just by written chat, I thought since it had a higher rockwell rating than every other blades it might mean something, I might be wrong too haha
 
The knife looks like a BG-42 Regular to me. Those have the older frame and one can see the logo pushed forward, as on that knife. I had one for a while my self. There is also a cut out under the clip for the lock spring on the outside showing it is an older handle design.

FlyingBlades said:
I'm gonna buy it from him soon, but before I do, am I the only one that thinks the CR logo is misplaced? I don't own a sebenza yet but the ones I see on google/youtube have their logo perfectly centered to the pivot but not this one.
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My BG-42 regular has the centered logo. Perhaps someone can provide an image of a regular with the off center logo for you...

FWIW, if you google Sebenza, there are a couple of images in the Wikipedia article with small regulars with off centered logos.
 
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Haze said:
The knife looks like a BG-42 Regular to me. Those have the older frame and one can see the logo pushed forward, as on that knife. I had one for a while my self. There is also a cut out under the clip for the lock spring on the outside showing it is an older handle design.
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Thanks alot man, that's exactly what I needed to know. I'll buy it and give my feedback ASAP
 
Blues said:
My BG-42 regular has the centered logo. Perhaps someone can provide an image of a regular with the off center logo for you...

FWIW, if you google Sebenza, there are a couple of images in the Wikipedia article with small regulars with off centered logos.
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God bless google images :D
 
I would say it's well worth a go. There is really nothing the shouts fake having looked at the new pics and after I realised it's a small, but the original asking price is a head scratcher. I hope it is his dads knife and was not "traded or aquired" any other way.

FlyingBlades said:
Thanks alot man, that's exactly what I needed to know. I'll buy it and give my feedback ASAP
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Haze said:
I hope it is his dads knife and was not "traded or aquired" any other way.
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I would hate to think the guy would even sell a knife his dad used for 15 years prior to handing it down to him, much less sell it for $25. If he would, then he deserves to have it removed for such a ridiculously low price. I wish I would have seen this sale instead of the OP, because I'll be danged if I would lose one minute of sleep by not informing the seller they were crazy for selling at that price. This is the Information Age, where one can find the value of pretty much anything known to man within a few mouse clicks if they're motivated enough to find out. It's not my responsibility to inform someone who didn't even make an attempt to research what they were trying to sell.
 
I too would personally loathe to sell something like that, but we're all different in many ways. I'm not sure if I'm buying that one though, I feel his father would have at least indicated in some way as to the value of the knife at some point....who knows though ? I'm not in a position to say anything either way.

Medic1210 said:
I would hate to think the guy would even sell a knife his dad used for 15 years prior to handing it down to him, much less sell it for $25. If he would, then he deserves to have it removed for such a ridiculously low price. I wish I would have seen this sale instead of the OP, because I'll be danged if I would lose one minute of sleep by not informing the seller they were crazy for selling at that price. This is the Information Age, where one can find the value of pretty much anything known to man within a few mouse clicks if they're motivated enough to find out. It's not my responsibility to inform someone who didn't even make an attempt to research what they were trying to sell.
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Haze said:
I too would personally loathe to sell something like that, but we're all different in many ways. I'm not sure if I'm buying that one though, I feel his father would have at least indicated in some way as to the value of the knife at some point....who knows though ? I'm not in a position to say anything either way.
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Exactly. I'm doubting the father hand-me-down bit too, which is all the more reason to snatch the deal up. Let's face it, if the knife is stolen, chances of the original owner getting it back are slim. Much slimmer than the guy selling it to someone else who has no clue what the knife is worth. Either way, the guy is gonna sell the knife to someone. Now, if the knife really did belong to his dad, then he deserves to get ripped just for selling it in the first place.

For me, if my dad gave me a knife he had used for 15 years, I don't care if it was a $10 Winchester or a $1000 custom, I'm not gonna be selling it, simply because of sentimental value. This guy is obviously/apparently just trying to turn a quick buck on cheap knives he either bought or acquired. I would have gladly relieved him of that Sebenza for $25. I probably would have even been nice enough to give him an appraisal after I received it. The OP shot himself in the foot by trying to be the "good guy" and inform him that his knife was worth a good bit more than he wanted.

I wonder, if he were to go to a garage sale and find some potentially very valuable antique, relic, whatever, for a ridiculously low price, would he offer up the true value to the person selling? Not me. If you're selling something, you had every opportunity to find out the value first. If you weren't motivated enough to properly value an item when the resources were available to you, well, your loss is my gain... We're not talking about someone who said, make an offer, and the OP seeing the Sebbie and offering $25, we're talking about someone who put the price on the knife, obviously having no clue what it was.
 
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Nine times out of ten, if it's to good to be true...and its true...its stolen.
 
Medic1210 said:
The OP shot himself in the foot by trying to be the "good guy" and inform him that his knife was worth a good bit more than he wanted.
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Yeah I now really regret it but we concluded at 80$ with the little leatherman micra, wich is still a total steal at that price so I don't mind it too much. He got it for 3x what he wanted, and I got it for 1/4 of what it's worth. If only I knew I'd fall upon a wild sebenza before I bought my mini-grip :/
 
When you get the knife take the blade out the handle and have a look at the area where the washers sit. I have a feeling it could be a BG-42 and actually a rather sought after knife. (if it has the letter "S" it is S30V, if it has no lettering it will be BG-42).

FlyingBlades said:
Yeah I now really regret it but we concluded at 80$ with the little leatherman micra, wich is still a total steal at that price so I don't mind it too much. He got it for 3x what he wanted, and I got it for 1/4 of what it's worth. If only I knew I'd fall upon a wild sebenza before I bought my mini-grip :/
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Haze said:
When you get the knife take the blade out the handle and have a look at the area where the washers sit. I have a feeling it could be a BG-42 and actually a rather sought after knife. (if it has the letter "S" it is S30V, if it has no lettering it will be BG-42).
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Is it hidden under the scale or I can see it without dismounting it (when the guy hands me the knife before I buy it), but I'll do it anyway. Also something I wondered since he sent me the pics is if it's normal that the handle has a weak shine to it or it could just be the lighting.
 
You will have to take the blade out the handle to see it. The knife just looks used to me so a "pocket polish" is perfectly normal. :)

FlyingBlades said:
Is it hidden under the scale or I can see it without dismounting it (when the guy hands me the knife before I buy it), but I'll do it anyway. Also something I wondered since he sent me the pics is if it's normal that the handle has a weak shine to it or it could just be the lighting.
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Beware of the fake annual sebenzas that are out now my CRK brothers and sisters.....!!!! Nothing pisses me off more :mad:
 
I saw that one. I always wondered when they would start to copy the annual.
 
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