Hunted Xtras?

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Dijos

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Has anyone seen the extra features on the Hunted dvd? Are they any good?--Joe
 
The extras are okay. The 4 documentaries are actually one long one that they cut into 4 parts. The deleted scenes were not what I was hoping for. They didn't show the original ending, they didn't show the extra interrogation scene where they ask him (Del Toro) about his knife etc. They also only included one or two of the original trailers when in fact there were 4 or 5.

In my opinion, William Friedkin's commentary was really boring too, he got too far into the "psychology of film" talk and at times totally strayed from the movie. I like his films, but he's boring to listen to. It seemed obvious that Tom Brown fed Mr. Friedkin a bunch of crap too. There are times when Friedkin says "You can actually approach a wild wolf like that, Mr. Brown said so." And, "Tom Brown showed me how you can forge a knife using scraps from a junk car." Yeah right, Tom Brown the bladesmith. Ha ha. He also said that Tom Brown trains Special Forces operatives how to murder people. I didn't know Tom Brown was knowledgeable in that area. Mr. Friedkin didn't know any better, he was just relaying the info that Tom Brown gave him. I just got the vibe that Tom Brown made up some stuff that sounded cool to the director. It would have been better if Benicio and Tommy Lee had been on the commentary.

Maybe someday they'll come out with a "Special Edition" and put in all that other cool stuff.
 
Originally posted by PlaceKnives
Maybe someday they'll come out with a "Special Edition" and put in all that other cool stuff.
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I could be wrong, but I seriously doubt it. The movie was a critical flop, and was only in theaters for about ten days. Too bad, really...I'd had such hopes.
 
I rented the movie on DVD and was glad I didn't pay theater price to see it.

I looked closely at the knife and don't know how anyone could think it fit in it's environment. I grew up in the woods and have over 30 years bushcraft experience. It's striclty a movie knife with no practical applications!

I was disapointed with the movie and the knife.

Cheers,
Collecter
 
I was dissappointed as well, with the movie and the use of the knife as a fighting knife. The Beck is expertly crafted out of excellent materials. As to the complete uselessness of its design, I won't get into that arguement, though you might peruse this:

http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=253338

Always remember--the knives that prehistoric man used to skin mastadons and butcher their meat were knacked out of stone. They would have killed for one of United Cutlery's fantasy blades or a Fury folder. If you put to time into learning to use it, almost anything can become a useful tool. :)
 
Thanks for posting the link to the thread about the knife. I have a Dave Beck Wilderness Survival Knife and it is expertly crafted from great materials. Wheather you like the design or not, you can't argue with the fact that it was designed by Tom Brown and Dave Beck, 2 men with extensive wilderness skills. It also took years to develop the design. It was a "real" wilderness knife about 12 years before that movie came out. As for it being "totally useless", well that's a matter of opinion. It does what it was designed to do.
 
I had heard so much about this movie here,couldn't wait to see it.Well I hated it.A cheap rip off of First Blood,right down to some of the lines.

Anti trapping and anti hunting thrown in to boot!

They say in the movie "the knife has a serrated edge on one side and a fillet knife on the other! WTF???
 
The knife fight scenes in the movie were interesting and entertaining. The movie itself was poorly scripted, two-dimensional, and generally weak. There were numerous opportunities for character development that were passed up, leaving an empty skit peopled by relatively unsympathetic and emotionally malnourished characters.

Oh, and if your survival manual says, "If you don't have a knife, first find an abandoned machine shop in which to hand-forge and heat-treat a replacement blade, preferably in a shape that is as difficult to create as possible," you have problems.
 
When I was watching the "Cutting edge" segment under the extras, one of the knife fighting consultants closes a rather large folder and puts it in his pocket. Did anyone happen to notice what it was?

Chris
 
I would be interested in hearing about the extra scenes not on the DVD if Placeknives had any details about them. Especially the interrogation about his knife.
 
chris, i saw that too and was wondering the same thing. anyone have an idea?
 
I have to say that I disagree with most of whats been said about this film. By no means am I saying that the movie is flawless, but I tend not to overanalyze action flics.
There was room for more character development,etc.
In so many words, the director stated that too many action films bog down with too much plot,I agree. Taken as a slice of the moment event, it does really well. I like some "realism" in films of this type, but I'm more concerned with being entertained. In that respect, the film is great!

Compared to the hand to hand and knife combat in most movies, this one is way above the norm. The Tracker knife would not be something I'd need, but neither would the Lile Rambo knives. There are other, less expensive pieces that would work as well or better.
The Tracker knife was used because Tom Brown was involved with the film,end of story. In the Rambo movies, the Lile was used because Stallone liked Lile knives, end of story. Many other knives could have filled these spots. In reality, simpler,less complicated pieces would have done so. Name one "realistic" scene in this movie or the Rambo movies where a plain-jane hunting knife couldn't have done what was depicted.

See my point?
 
Originally posted by Tenbeers
See my point?
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Well, I'll give my reasons for hating the movie, so nobody thinks I'm just trying to be contrary.

The performances came across like the actors knew it was a bad script and were trying to get it over with. Example dialogue:
"Why are you killing these people?"
"Did you know X number of chickens are killed every year?"
"No, but it's interesting."

A great deal of the tracking stuff shown in the movie is ridiculous. Namely, walking up to a wounded wolf and pulling barbed wire off what would have to be a very sore leg, and then getting licked in gratitude. Or when he's successfully tracking Benecio through a central park-like setting in a city, and then over concrete! Or when Benecio (who's supposed to be awesome at not being found) completely blows any camouflage he ever has by moving as soon as TLJ looks his way.

As far as the military part goes, my buddies and I were laughing out loud at the "tactics" being displayed by the special forces team at the beginning. The plan seems to have been:
Team Leader--"Okay, Benecio will run in there and kill him, so we need to create a diversion. We'll all shoot at the building on the count of three."
Troop--"But sir, aren't we in the middle of a war zone, where they aren't likely to even hear our gunfire, or distinguish it from theirs, or determine its direction even if they do hear it? And how do we know all of them will come out leaving our target alone in a big dark room?"
Team Leader--"Trust me, it'll work..."

I also enjoyed our FBI agent firing out the window through a suburban neighborhood, trying to hit a guy that's already made a corner.

The knife fighting was, I'll admit, very gritty and using realistic moves. However, neither of them seems to notice that they're being eviscerated, except by uttering an "OW!" occasionally. With the wounds being inflicted, that fight would have been over in the first five seconds.

So, as far as I can tell, it's neither deep, nor well written, nor even a really good action flick. Like I said, ten days in theaters... ;) :p :D :D

I fully agree that Tom Brown's involvement is the reason for the knife's presence. And, of course, you fight with whatever you have, but why on earth make (oh yeah, I forgot to mention the forging scene above--how did he forge those Micarta grips? ;)) the same knife when you're planning in advance to fight with it? Why not just carry the two foot length of steel, and beat TLJ to death?

This all said, however, I still prefered my time in the theater to working. :)
 
According to Tom Brown,the tracker knife in the movie was made by Chip McConnell , not Becker. McConnell also made all of the prop knives.
 
The Tracker knife is a very well thought out & refined tool & is quite efficient for the tasks for which it was designed for, but due to its rather radical appearance it has always attracted criticism from many folks over the years who couldn't quite grasp the intention of its various features.

I must agree with the many views which have been posted concerning the movie. With the actors involved in the film, I had higher expectations concerning the quality of the film than what I seen.
Although it is every knifemakers' dream to have their work used in a motion picture & I was certainly thrilled to have the opportunity to see my knives used, I admit that it was a little distressing to see its usage in the film being concentrated more of the combative aspects than the knife's true usefullness. It was never designed by me for use a fighting weapon but as a specialized crafting tool.
The knife certainly has been used all over the world as a fighting/survival knife & has been successful in combat in the first gulf war & smaller conficts by our military but its combative attributes are an afterproduct of the knife's origional design.

But when you give something useful to film industry, all intentions go with the wind & a knife's participation can become more entertaining in nature rather than practical. Hollywood isn't always as concerned about realism as we all know as they are with dramatics which sell tickets & hopefully generate big bucks from viewer interest.

With all this said, the bottom line is that you are all right with your opinions which are the result from a mildly entertaining movie but despite the quality of the entertainment, the tool used does have value in its environment & its efficiency has been time proven all over the world by the best of outdoorsmen & elete military.

David R. Beck, Knifesmith
 
The original ending had Connie Nielson coming to British Columbia to visit Tommy Lee Jones. They edited the ending to make it look like he was looking at the wolf.

In the trailer you can see Benicio in the interrogation room and an agent in the foreground holds up the tracker knife in front of the camera. Must have been questioning him about it.

P.S. Well said Dave. Oh, how's my knife coming along? Drop me a line whenever you have time.
 
Why not just carry the two foot length of steel, and beat TLJ to death?
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the poor guy didn't even have a knife on him...had to make one from stone. What a bull... Are all knife instructors like him? never carry a knife? Oh, I forgot, he's a good guy and good guys never carry knives:rolleyes:
 
Just to clarify, I do not mean to imply that the Tracker or the Rambo knives are useless, but given what was shown in these films, almost anything sharp would have worked.

Considering the fact that the Rambo movies brought combat/survival blades back into vogue,none of the knife work was that specialized.
From what I've read, Lile was asked by Sly to create what he(Lile) would want in a survival scenario. Stallone wanted something unique.
The Randall #18 was also considered.

The Tracker was designed years before "The Hunted",I have no doubt that it can be a useful tool,especially if one is well versed in it's various attributes.
Take away those few unique features and alot of other knives would serve as well.

All things considered, these knives looked wicked on screen and that did not happen by accident.
That is why I tend to overlook "reality" when I go to the movies. If I see any realism at all, I chalk it up to good technical advisors.
 
i think the knife fighter in "the cutting edge" hade either a cold steel x2 voyager or vaquero grande
 
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