Hunters. I would like your opinions on these pictures

I wouldn't consider myself cold hearted, but I wouldn't care either way if the pig felt pain or not, no matter what manner in which it was dispatched.
And as for the dogs use in hunting them, why not? It's probably the easiest way to catch them, as well as the most fun, and it's basically a pest that tastes pretty darn good.
BTW beautiful dogs, I can't wait to get my first.
 
allenC wrote:
"I have some friends who birdhunt and they don't even seem to be challenged in the least.
They NEVER fail to come home without some kills."

Have you ever been bird hunting? Ever spent 45 minutes crawling on the ground up to a pond that has no screened approaches, in order to get within range of a flock of ducks? Why am I even bothering to ask...

Do you define the ease or difficulty of a kind of hunting based on the ratio of hunts with game bagged to hunts with no game bagged?

Did it ever occur to you to count the number of birds your friends brought back? Did you ever notice that this number probably varies, a LOT?
 
runningboar said:
My apologies Jack, your last post was articulate and to the point.

You have to understand hunters, and especially hunters that use dogs, are constantly attacked and I assumed, yes I know how to spell it, that this post was started and aimed in that direction. I and other houndsman tend to get defensive and a bit testy because we have heard the same tired, ignorant, uninformed arguments time after time and it does tend to get a bit old. The world is made of all different things and types, people have different ethics, values, likes and dislikes and when people like allenc make absolute statements about subjects they know very little about, it makes my blood boil. If it is legal, you enjoy it, and it is actually needed to control numbers it is not anyone elses business, hunt hard, take only what you need, make as humane a kill as possible and enjoy. Chris
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we'll have to have a beer sometime. We are statemates and all. lol
 
S. Brown said:
I use a knife with with a min blade length of 9". Shorter is acceptable, but sometimes it will not reach the heart of the larger hogs, 9" will reach the heart of any hog. You usually stab it low behind the shoulder, through the lungs and the heart. If done correctly, the boar will die quickly as will anything if stabbed in the heart.
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Sorry about the tangent, but this is also practical info in regard to black bears, for me at least. Some of those hogs can get REALLY big and I would compare the mass to a blackie. Knowing that a 9" knife can stop the clock on the biggest hog is reassurance that my big blade can be a usefull last resort with a bear. The most likely scenarios however would be 1. Crapping my pants as I ran like hell looking for a tree. 2. Getting badly bitten and clawed. 3. Getting killed. Seeing that black bears will eat you after they think that they killed you, or even before, I want that last ditch shot with a knife.
 
upnorth said:
Sorry about the tangent, but this is also practical info in regard to black bears, for me at least. Some of those hogs can get REALLY big and I would compare the mass to a blackie. Knowing that a 9" knife can stop the clock on the biggest hog is reassurance that my big blade can be a usefull last resort with a bear. The most likely scenarios however would be 1. Crapping my pants as I ran like hell looking for a tree. 2. Getting badly bitten and clawed. 3. Getting killed. Seeing that black bears will eat you after they think that they killed you, or even before, I want that last ditch shot with a knife.
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There was already a story where a guy stabbed a black bear to death after it came after him and his dog. They both came out in pretty good shape. He was also an older gentleman, I seem to remember it took multiple stabs, but I doubt the guy was in the nest position to start with.
 
Runningboar, my dog looks remarkably similar to yours (the one in the canoe)..what breed is yours.
We got ours from a rescue shelter and nobody seems to know what she is.

Thanks,
Allen
 
He is a mountain cur, he is from Tree Time Galloway's Burley and Roger's Maggie. www.treetimekennels.com

The little one is almost 3 mos old and his half sister and is looking to be as good as he is. I have hunted plotts, black and tans, walkers, pits and all kinds of mixes but these cur dogs have won my heart and I don't know if I will ever hunt another breed. They are loving, loyal to the death, hard hunting and great companions, as I said before Rusty is my best bud and a part of my family. Chris


Ready to go!!!!!
 
JackBauer24

I too have been sceptical about this way of killing the boars. That said, I am a hunter myself and I happen to have a beautiful Dogo Argentino: 110 lbs full of muscle! Aside from this, I believe that if a kill is to be made this should be done with the minimum stress to the animal being hunted. Even if you slaughter an animal with a knife there are ways to do it to make it either less or more stressful for the animal.

While I was still at the University right before I got my degree in Biology, I joined a group of other students who were performing an experiment. It had to do with the swiftness of killing a trout and the effect that had to the quality of the flesh of the fish. What we were doing was that we would capture the fish while it was swimming in a large container and kill it by hitting it at the back of the head. The only variable we played with was the time: we would keep the fish out of the water for increasing time periods and then kill it. After the killing, we would insert the needle of a syringe to the main artery that runs the fish lengthwise and obtain blood specimen from there and subsequently analyze it.

The results showed that the more time elapsed from the capture of the animal to its death the worse the blood parameters were, plus the blood would get kind of stiffer.

My $.02
 
g_moutafis said:
JackBauer24

I too have been sceptical about this way of killing the boars. That said, I am a hunter myself and I happen to have a beautiful Dogo Argentino: 110 lbs full of muscle! Aside from this, I believe that if a kill is to be made this should be done with the minimum stress to the animal being hunted. Even if you slaughter an animal with a knife there are ways to do it to make it either less or more stressful for the animal.

While I was still at the University right before I got my degree in Biology, I joined a group of other students who were performing an experiment. It had to do with the swiftness of killing a trout and the effect that had to the quality of the flesh of the fish. What we were doing was that we would capture the fish while it was swimming in a large container and kill it by hitting it at the back of the head. The only variable we played with was the time: we would keep the fish out of the water for increasing time periods and then kill it. After the killing, we would insert the needle of a syringe to the main artery that runs the fish lengthwise and obtain blood specimen from there and subsequently analyze it.

The results showed that the more time elapsed from the capture of the animal to its death the worse the blood parameters were, plus the blood would get kind of stiffer.

My $.02
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I had no idea blood got "stiffer".
 
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