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Recommendation? Hunting Blade question and Introduction

Discussion in 'General Knife Discussion' started by bobshoy, Jul 22, 2017.

  1. bobshoy

    bobshoy

    97
    Jul 22, 2017
    Hey guys, this forum has answered many a question for me over the last couple years. Impressed with the knowledgable patrons of this here forum. Now I'm needing a more personal question answered so decided to make myself an account.

    I'm from, and live in, New Zealand. I've been doing a lot of hunting recently.

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    This has been what I have been taking bush with me. Wanting to leave the white knife, and the Opinel at home and take just take one really good all rounder with me and my leatherman.

    The knife would be used mostly for dressing out and quartering deer/pigs in the field. Ducks too during the season. Small camp duties too, and the possibility of being a survival knife if things were to go wrong in the bush. I always carry an EPIRB and am never no more than a day from my vehicle. So wouldn't have to get me through for long.

    So far I'm focusing in on Bark River knives, in CPM-3V. Looking at either the Classic Drop Point Hunter or a Bravo 1. I prefer the Drop Point Hunter but not too sure about the sheath it comes with, the Bravo 1 I think has a better sheath, especially with the retention clip. Some of the bush I'll be scrambling through is pretty dense, at times on all fours dense. So need a secure sheath.

    Will probably end up buying from the U.S, the only distributor in NZ is pretty hard to deal with, just not looking forward to the $80 shipping fee. :eek:

    Alternatively, does anyone have any other recommendations?

    Cheers for any replies.
     
    Last edited: Jul 22, 2017
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  2. Velitrius

    Velitrius Gold Member Gold Member

    Mar 3, 2000
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  3. bobshoy

    bobshoy

    97
    Jul 22, 2017
    Hey man cheers for the reply. I read that thread, did he disappear in the jungle? No reply on how it went haha.

    Searched the forums for Sendero and found a good thread of someone pretty much posting the same thread as me. Doh.

    I searched before I posted honest. :D
     
  4. ATJ999

    ATJ999 Gold Member Gold Member

    Nov 12, 2013
    You can get a fantastic custom for the same price as a Bark River Knife. Or a high end production. Take a look at Gollik knives, I just put in two orders with him. His knives are well made and at a great price! Another would be Bradford knives, he just put out some of his Guardian 4's with a very good Heat treat. Another is Huntsman Knife Co., under utility knives, The Fjord Hiker, is a little spendy, but great steel and quality. If you are looking for cheaper, a Cold Steel SRK in VG1 steel would be a decent all arounder.

    Also check the Knifemakers for sale area here under fixed blades, you will find TONS of great knives!!!
     
  5. gadunz

    gadunz

    Dec 4, 2012
    Be patriotic. Svord
    Drop Point 3 3/4
    Model 350B

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    Length of Blade (inches) 3 3/4"
    Over All Length (inches) 8 1/2"
    Blade Shape Drop Point
    Handle Material Mahogony and Brass
    Steel Specifications 15N20
    Blade Thickness (mm) 2.2mm
    Sheath Leather

    NZ Stag 4
    Model 1990NZ2S
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    Length of Blade (inches) 4"
    Over All Length (inches) 8 3/4"

    (370BB) Drop Point 4 3/4
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    Length of Blade (inches) 4 3/4"
    Over All Length (inches) 9 3/4

    Utility General Purpose 4 3/4
    Model UGP2
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    Length of Blade (inches) 4 3/4"
    Over All Length (inches) 9 1/4"
    Blade Shape General Purpose
    http://www.svord.com/index.php?id_category=20&controller=category
     
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  6. bluecow

    bluecow

    39
    Oct 5, 2016
    Grohmann #1 or #2 bird and trout. about 100 U.S.
     
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  7. Brian77

    Brian77 KnifeMaker / Craftsman / Service Provider Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    Nov 27, 2014
    @bobshoy That white knife you use is widely used in butcher shops here in the states. And the 7" version. There are some good knives out there to do the task you describe. For quartering deer, a 4 inch field knife styled like the Bark River Fox River is excellent. The handle is about 1/4" short for hands like mine. For skinning and quartering hogs, it is a little different situation. The Bark River Bravo1 is not designed for processing game. The blade angles and the handle are not optimized for the kind of work you describe. It can be done, just not focused towards that style use.

    They are sometimes muddy, gritty, and are a thicker boned animal. 3v steel, or cruwear, D2, are some steels I like for work like that. Elmax in stainless. But these are no fun to sharpen in the field. Are you looking for something you can maintain easily on a longer hunt? Then 52100, 1095, and A2 come to mind.

    For waterfowl you will value a bird and trout style knife, and working with a larger knife that will do hogs, will not be as fun to try to breast out a goose or duck. But you could use the Jerry Fisk designed knife mentioned for all those things.
     
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  8. Alberta Ed

    Alberta Ed

    Jun 29, 1999
    Cold Steel Master Hunter.
     
  9. Danketch

    Danketch Gold Member Gold Member

    566
    Apr 27, 2007
    In answer to your question the Classic Drop point hunter is going to be thinner at 5/32" than the 7/32" of the Bravo (assuming you don't get the LT version, which you should) and be easier to cut with and sharpen because of that, and no loss of durability or toughness with 3V.

    Most all Bark River Sheaths I've gotten are thin and not very durable. You should probably plan on getting a custom one made in your choice of materials.

    Let us know what you get.
     
  10. gadunz

    gadunz

    Dec 4, 2012
    Bobshoy wants a compromise knife which'll butcher both pigs & poultry. That's like wanting a smith's anvil hammer which can also be used for making fine jewellery. 2 different items.
    He should buy a bird & trout knife
    Length of Blade (inches) 3 1/2"
    Over All Length (inches) 7 1/2"
    Blade Shape Drop Point
    Handle Material NZ Stag
    Steel Specifications 15N20
    Blade Thickness (mm) 2.1mm
    Sheath Leather
    http://www.svord.com/index.php?id_product=38&controller=product

    buy a most-of-handle enclosing sheath for the plastic handled slaughterman's skinner (Victorinox?), & if still unsatisfied, buy a deluxe skinner. Connect your knives to your belt with long thin small dog leashes.
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    677BB
     
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  11. NJBillK

    NJBillK Custom Leather and Fixed Blade modifications.

    Mar 27, 2014
  12. bobshoy

    bobshoy

    97
    Jul 22, 2017
    That Stag handled Sword is nice, might make it onto the birthday wishlist. :D

    That white knife I have at the moment has a 7" edge and has done the odd sheep, deer, peahen, turkey and duck. Is a tad cumbersome on the duck, but only for the one or two small cuts required, unless when breasting them out, for which the knife size is no problem.

    I think I could handle both tasks with a 3.75 - 4.75" blade? For the most part, I'm mainly after deer. The majority of which are sika and fallow, so chances are all I'll be doing in the field is gutting. Hopefully one day I'll get a big red that will need quartering in the field. Pig really isn't something I chase often, just on the rare occasion I do get one, I'd like a knife that could do the job.

    Have ended up buying a knife off a maker on this forum for the same price a BK2 can be had locally to give me more time to think about these lovely options you've all given me.

    That CPK knife looks really good. The destruction test on his website is pretty good too. Can take a lot of abuse for a thin blade. Is it pretty hard to get a hold of one of his knives?
     
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  13. gadunz

    gadunz

    Dec 4, 2012
    "Hopefully one day I'll get a big red that will need quartering in the field. Pig really isn't something I chase often, just on the rare occasion I do get one, I'd like a knife that could do the job."
    You have a knife which can do the job- your slaughterer's skinner.
    Unless you're dogging pigs, not shooting, then get a Svord Hunter 7
     
  14. JJ_Colt45

    JJ_Colt45 Gold Member Gold Member

    Sep 11, 2014
    I do alot of hunting and found you fon't need a big knife to field dress or even break down a Deer even up to Elk ... I've used 4 to 5 inch blades Winkler is one of my favorite hunting knives ... but I will say I recently bought a Bradford Guardian 4 and I have been very impressed ... its lightweight feels good in hand with the new Micarta Scales ... comes in 3 great steel options S30V - M390 - and 3V ... with Full Flat Grind or Saber ... this would handle anything from small game and ducks or pheasants and I have no doubt it would be plenty of knife to field dress and break down an Elk .

    And for the materials you get its a very reasonable price around $250.00 USD ... not sure your budget but Id reccomend giving it a look.

    Another option check out some of the Custom makers on the forums you could work out a design to fit your needs and get a great knife in the price tange of the Bark Rivers or what I've suggested.
     
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  15. Frisky

    Frisky

    492
    Dec 1, 2010
    I'm a deer hunter and knife enthusiast. Here's my opinion. If you want a great all-around hunting knife and don't want to spend a fortune, get a Buck Vanguard with the rubber handle. It's easy to keep sharp and does a fine job field-dressing, skinning and butchering deer. Get the nylon sheath for easy clean-up, and it's secure. If you go with Bark River, get the Gunny Hunter. I often use a Vanguard and a Victorinox Hunter XT. The Hunter XT is used for the gutting blade and the saw comes in handy for clearing shooting lanes and such. This season, I'll be using a Case Slab Side Hunter, Buck 110 and a Marttiini 450. I just enjoy trying other knives!
     
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  16. skyhorse

    skyhorse

    Jan 30, 2010
    Can't go wrong with the Buck Vanguard or upgraded version the Cabelas Alaskan Hunter. Good hunting my friend.
     
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  17. bobshoy

    bobshoy

    97
    Jul 22, 2017
    I want a smaller blade though, 7" feels a bit inconvenient. Also something that could be used for camp setup if the need arrises. It'll still get used when I get the animal home to butcher it out.
     
  18. whp

    whp

    Apr 26, 2009
    Cold Steel Ultimate Hunter.
    Welcome to the Forums.
     
  19. gadunz

    gadunz

    Dec 4, 2012
    You have a 5" skinner-boner, when measured properly, straight from base of spine to tip. not curved along edge of blade.
    This is a 7" pigsticker-skinner-boner
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    Hunter 7
    Model 280h
    Length of Blade (inches) 7"
    Over All Length (inches) 12"
    Blade Shape Hunter
    Handle Material Mahogony and Brass
    Steel Specifications 15N20
    Blade Thickness (mm) 3mm
    Sheath Leather
     
  20. Emre

    Emre

    402
    Nov 15, 2006
    Can't go wrong with Bob Dozier
     

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