I am so sick of my knife OCD.

I have OCD. The brain throws a tantrum whenever it expects perfection and can't have it, and no amount of logic and common sense helps to bring this brain under control. I've also made peace with the fact that "normal" non-OCD people cannot understand/appreciate this condition. It really is one part of the brain torturing another part of the brain.

Best is to have two groups of stuff that matters to you: (1) users (that you use as if the Government used your tax money to provide you with one) and, (2) safe queens that get the royal treatment. In a very traumatic instance when a safe queen gets hurt you shift her to the EDC group (but first hide her away for a time that you get over the trauma before you bring her into the EDC group ... and fight the cruel temptation to have a look at the damage one more time until she is ready to take up her new role).

It is what it is.
 
The traditional advice, back in the old days at least, was if you're having trouble letting yourself use your Benchmade/Spyderco-level knives, just buy a custom, and then you'll obsess over that, and using the production knives won't seem so worrisome.

But I like having nice tools (knives, pens, whatever) with me, where I can enjoy using them, so I generally can't make myself follow that advice. I have some knives that I likely won't use, but I won't let myself buy anything I'm not willing to use. My advice, if you can swing it, is to buy one nice higher end knife that was made to be used, like a Hinderer XM-18 or a Sebenza, and then use the heck out of it. I mention those two in particular because they're both well made, overbuilt, designed to do real work, designed to be taken apart, cleaned, etc., by the end user, can be sent back to the maker for a "spa" treatment to rejuvenate them if needed, and come in small (3") and large (3.5") sizes. You don't need to get a blinged out custom one, just their basic "production" (mid-tech) model. And then carry it all the time and use it for all your cutting needs (keeping in mind the sage advice, "a folding knife is the worst and most expensive pry bar you will ever own"). Don't pry with it (okay, staples maybe), don't pound it into rocks, but enjoy using it for its intended purpose, as a "high tech matter separator." Don't baby it, go ahead and let it get marked up, but don't mistreat it, and it'll last a very long time, and you'll enjoy using it, rather than just looking at it.

Then again, having people out there who have caches of "safe queens" is very helpful to those of us who occasionally develop a hankering for a "New Old Stock" instance of a knife that hasn't been made in ten years. So, keep it up :)
 
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Nice thread... I "suffer" too OCD on knives. someone's already suggested some good solutions for the obsession.
these are the ones I recommend that work for me:

1- Buy doubles (it can be doubles of the same exact knife, or a very similar one)
2- Separate safe queens from users
3- Customize knife to your liking (so it will be original/pristine no more, and will increase your wish to carry/use it)
 
Life is too short to be obsessing over the slightest blemish on a knife. I've never understood the OCD types who demand knives with premium steel and premium materials, yet worry about scratching the blade or scuffing the finish on a handle. It's a waste of time and money to buy high quality knives and not put them to use for fear of getting scratches on them. I can understand if we're talking about a rare piece of custom art, but there is no reason to baby any production or "mid-tech' knife. If it's worth the price for having a premium grade steel and premium materials (g-10, carbon fibre, titanium, etc.), then it's worth using.
 
I believe that a lot of concurrent disordered individuals obsess through hobbies. But for the vast majority it is all harmless fun.
 
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OCD sucks because it's a very complicated condition that most people misconstrue due to popular depictions. Take the show "Monk" for example, people see it as if it was something beneficial, that makes a person more meticulous, etc. However what that show cannot display is the type of anxiety that plays out in the mind of someone with OCD that makes them do all that stuff. I will put it to you like this... If you've ever seen Monk, and know how he likes to keep all of the things in his apartment a certain way, in a certain order, etc. you might think that's because he just pays super close attention to detail, and in fact the show revolves around him being a phenomenal detective because of that attention to detail--so it's seen as some kind of advantage whereas his suffering is left hopelessly unexplained. If Monke were a real person, he believes that if he leaves a coffee mug in the wrong place, he'll knock it over, step on a shard of glass, get an infection, not be able to complete his work, and basically indirectly attribute it to some sort of doomsday scenario so that the mug being in the right place becomes the most important thing in the world, and he cannot find relief from this anxiety until it is in its proper place. Now imagine you did the same thing, but with every single little thing that you deal with in your daily life--every object you come in contact with, every decision you must make, etc.

Compulsive acts are like a tip of the iceberg when it comes to OCD. You obsess about everything, you compulsively do maybe one or two things. The long and short of it is that engaging in the compulsive behavior releases serotonin, convincing you that this action will make you feel better--because it does. But then because of the ongoing imbalance, when you begin to feel anxiety again, you will again turn to the compulsive behavior to find relief. Of course it's not readily identified like that, and that's why it's so confusing. You start looking at a scratch on your knife and you think, "Wow that bugs me. Why does that bug me so much? I gotta get rid of that," without realizing that it wasn't really the scratch on the knife at all that made you feel that way, and that your mind is basically working overtime to convince you that it needs your attention, that you need to fix it, because doing so will regulate that serotonin. In a simpler way to put it, your mind convinces you that it is imperative to do this action to be happy, but logically you cannot understand why that's the case and that's where the struggle begins--and that's why it's so often that people use lofty or just plain faulty logic to justify why they do such things, usually reflecting the urgency that they feel in their own mind. "If I don't wash my hands, I'll infect someone, they'll get the flu and die and I will be a murderer." Meanwhile the brain just wants you to wash your hand to boost your serotonin levels.

And then sometimes it's not even a conscious decision to begin engaging in the compulsive act... Yeah OCD is some complicated stuff. I honestly think that medication is more essential to treating it than any behavior/cognitive therapy can be because of the complexity of it. At least, it makes understanding it easier because it kind of "takes you out of it" and lets you observe from a 3rd person's perspective. Then later on it's more easy to make behavior adjustments with your new found understanding.

Anyway, not to drole on or offer unsolicited advice... I just use to have very severe OCD. I would do things like, leave in the morning to work or school, and then convince myself I left a lamp on and that it would burn the house down if I didn't go back to turn it off. And then on the second departure from home, I would do it again... Sometimes doing this all morning until I missed whatever I was heading to. Yeah it was seriously that bad. Now days it's not that I don't have unreasonable anxiety and fears like that, I'm just more practiced at deciding "Yeah that probably won't happen," and continuing on my normal day. It's uncomfortable but it sure beats going back and forth to turn your lamp off... If I hadn't gotten on medication and into therapy at the time I did, I have to say I would probably be a much less functioning person. It's not easy to make those decisions, but the more you able you are to overcome the obsession/anxiety side the more able you will be in avoiding the compulsive behavior. The sad part is you don't really get any relief, because the root problem ( the imbalance ) still exists--but usually the benefits of not engaging in the compulsion are enough of a reward themselves.
 
OCD sucks because it's a very complicated condition that most people misconstrue due to popular depictions. Take the show "Monk" for example, people see it as if it was something beneficial, that makes a person more meticulous, etc. However what that show cannot display is the type of anxiety that plays out in the mind of someone with OCD that makes them do all that stuff. I will put it to you like this... If you've ever seen Monk, and know how he likes to keep all of the things in his apartment a certain way, in a certain order, etc. you might think that's because he just pays super close attention to detail, and in fact the show revolves around him being a phenomenal detective because of that attention to detail--so it's seen as some kind of advantage whereas his suffering is left hopelessly unexplained. If Monke were a real person, he believes that if he leaves a coffee mug in the wrong place, he'll knock it over, step on a shard of glass, get an infection, not be able to complete his work, and basically indirectly attribute it to some sort of doomsday scenario so that the mug being in the right place becomes the most important thing in the world, and he cannot find relief from this anxiety until it is in its proper place. Now imagine you did the same thing, but with every single little thing that you deal with in your daily life--every object you come in contact with, every decision you must make, etc.

Compulsive acts are like a tip of the iceberg when it comes to OCD. You obsess about everything, you compulsively do maybe one or two things. The long and short of it is that engaging in the compulsive behavior releases serotonin, convincing you that this action will make you feel better--because it does. But then because of the ongoing imbalance, when you begin to feel anxiety again, you will again turn to the compulsive behavior to find relief. Of course it's not readily identified like that, and that's why it's so confusing. You start looking at a scratch on your knife and you think, "Wow that bugs me. Why does that bug me so much? I gotta get rid of that," without realizing that it wasn't really the scratch on the knife at all that made you feel that way, and that your mind is basically working overtime to convince you that it needs your attention, that you need to fix it, because doing so will regulate that serotonin. In a simpler way to put it, your mind convinces you that it is imperative to do this action to be happy, but logically you cannot understand why that's the case and that's where the struggle begins--and that's why it's so often that people use lofty or just plain faulty logic to justify why they do such things, usually reflecting the urgency that they feel in their own mind. "If I don't wash my hands, I'll infect someone, they'll get the flu and die and I will be a murderer." Meanwhile the brain just wants you to wash your hand to boost your serotonin levels.

And then sometimes it's not even a conscious decision to begin engaging in the compulsive act... Yeah OCD is some complicated stuff. I honestly think that medication is more essential to treating it than any behavior/cognitive therapy can be because of the complexity of it. At least, it makes understanding it easier because it kind of "takes you out of it" and lets you observe from a 3rd person's perspective. Then later on it's more easy to make behavior adjustments with your new found understanding.

Anyway, not to drole on or offer unsolicited advice... I just use to have very severe OCD. I would do things like, leave in the morning to work or school, and then convince myself I left a lamp on and that it would burn the house down if I didn't go back to turn it off. And then on the second departure from home, I would do it again... Sometimes doing this all morning until I missed whatever I was heading to. Yeah it was seriously that bad. Now days it's not that I don't have unreasonable anxiety and fears like that, I'm just more practiced at deciding "Yeah that probably won't happen," and continuing on my normal day. It's uncomfortable but it sure beats going back and forth to turn your lamp off... If I hadn't gotten on medication and into therapy at the time I did, I have to say I would probably be a much less functioning person. It's not easy to make those decisions, but the more you able you are to overcome the obsession/anxiety side the more able you will be in avoiding the compulsive behavior. The sad part is you don't really get any relief, because the root problem ( the imbalance ) still exists--but usually the benefits of not engaging in the compulsion are enough of a reward themselves.

Man, I cant tell you how much of what you wrote I related to. When i talk to people about my "issues" they literally get annoyed with me and oversimplify the situation so much and its always "just dont do it" or "just do what I do and dont worry about it" The answer is always so simple to them. And I always sit there and think to myself, "do you really think I didnt think of that? Just dont worry about it?" That is what makes this condition and the others that I have so troubling. Others view it as a choice. Its not a choice. At least it doesnt feel like a choice. To me sometimes the most simple decisions in the world that others wouldnt even think about become an obsession. And you literally torture yourself mentally over things that most are on auto pilot when deciding. Some will never understand how hard it is to deal with a condition that has the potential to even turn the things you love into a nightmare. And while I am NOT pleased to learn that I am not the only one here with the issue. It is comforting nonetheless.
 
This is why I buy at least 2 of every knife I get - 1 to carry and use, and the other to put in the safe. Works for me, although it does make this endeavor twice as expensive!!
 
I think we all have some degree of OCD, just most of us can control it a lot better. When I buy a new knife I look it over very closely and if it's not perfect I try to fix it. If I can't it bugs me awhile. After I've owned it a week or so, the tiny flaw that seemed to ruin the entire knife nearly, isn't a big deal. Sometimes I even look at a knife I've owned awhile and wonder just why that little thing bugged me so much.
 
Well stated KennyB.

Monk made OCD look cute and useful and created a phenomenon where perfectly normal people want to be associated with this "cute" condition (to attract attention/sympathy/whatever), not understanding/appreciating the cruel realities involved. With Asperger Syndrome the same thing is happening now. It is "in vogue". Blame The Big Bang Theory for this one.

There is a good reason why those with these conditions are called sufferers.

Every day of my life I wish I could just look at something that bugs be, turn around, and walk away without giving it any more thought ... but I can't. A part of my brain will not allow me to ignore and forget. This has done a lot of damage in my own life.
 
One of Toch Brown's gator huntin' boats is on display in Sanibel Florida. In it, among other things, is a Winchester 22 Magnum pump and, slipped behind the toprail, is an Old Hickory boning knife. The blade is dark with the benign patina infused into it by reptilian blood and swamp water. It is common, it is plain and it is beautiful. Put all your knives away, give them a vacation from constant care and preening and get to a hardware store and get an Old Hickory boning knife. This will be your cooking knife, your only cooking knife and your only everything else knife. Keep it clean, dry and just keen enough to do what it has to do, anything else is a waste of time, grit and steel. Let it's use color and engrave it so that the blade wears it's history. Maybe a new compulsion, to let things grow and find their own unique beauty.
 
I used to have similar OCD knife issues.
Then I figured out:
A. I'm not a collector, I'm a user.
B. I don't want pocket jewelry, I want a tool.
C. Anything so expensive that it makes me regret using it, is not worth it.
D. I like affordable, functional knives that perform, beyond their price.

Use them, make them dull, sharpen them back up, repeat. Honest wear is a mark of pride.
 
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I used to be this way. I babied my first "expensive" knife. A Benchmade Griptilian. I started seeing a scratch in the coating, and it irritated me to no end. I finally said screw it, cut up some pop cans with it, dropped it a few times on concrete and now 4 years later, scratched up and beat half to death, she's still in my EDC rotation. Every new knife I buy immediately gets stabbed through a metal chew can lid or cuts up a pop can just to get scratches. Then I sharpen it again. It reminds me they're my users and not a bunch of collectors pieces to obsess over.

a great idea sir. this form of treatment may help me haha
 
I have struggled with OCD for several years and have tried numerous medications to control it,some worked ok others didn't seem to do anything.I think mine was brought on by several factors,divorce,losing my daughter and gaining custody of my son and having a ton more responsibilities then I did when I was alone.The thing with me is,when I'm outside of the house running errands or whatever,I'm fine,but when inside it goes nuts,I constantly clean,check light switches,stove,plugs and so on,I know in my mind that everything is just fine but then the urge overtakes me.I tried many times explaining this to my doctor and he says it might be more of an anxiety issue other than OCD,so he tries another medication for 30 days and so on,kinda starting to feel like a lab rat.Now I don't know if it's just me or others to but when the weather changes it does get worse.
 
I have only one issue and that is blade play.
Especially in a fixed blade.
 
i feel you op, i lived under the fear of dropping the knife and break the tip off, so now i can only buy knifes with heavy duty tip and i have to loop lanyard on my finger every time i use it.
 
I like a perfect knife when I take it out of the box blade play being the biggest concern.
Once I make sure then I treat it as a tool scuffs and scratches make it personal and mine.

A well used Sebenza is a beautiful thing IMO
 
Man, I cant tell you how much of what you wrote I related to. When i talk to people about my "issues" they literally get annoyed with me and oversimplify the situation so much and its always "just dont do it" or "just do what I do and dont worry about it" The answer is always so simple to them. And I always sit there and think to myself, "do you really think I didnt think of that? Just dont worry about it?" That is what makes this condition and the others that I have so troubling. Others view it as a choice. Its not a choice. At least it doesnt feel like a choice. To me sometimes the most simple decisions in the world that others wouldnt even think about become an obsession. And you literally torture yourself mentally over things that most are on auto pilot when deciding. Some will never understand how hard it is to deal with a condition that has the potential to even turn the things you love into a nightmare. And while I am NOT pleased to learn that I am not the only one here with the issue. It is comforting nonetheless.
Another OCD person is (un)happy to join your club. I can relate to most of the things you and KennyB wrote.
 
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I know that OCD actually exists. I suspect I "suffer" from a trace of it. But, I believe in most cases people here talk about OCD with knives as being sort of a compulsive joke, not a sickness. I notice it with firearms, flashlights, watches, and fishing gear. I left out drugs and alcohol of course. If you truly have OCD, I would see a doctor (like that will fix it, right?). But the compulsions will continue and as KennyB mentioned those compulsions relate to many things beyond "toys".

So, how do you deal with it IF it really exists? Probably going cold turkey is the best solution. I also favor the envelope approach to buying toys and to limit your acquisitions to only money sourced from the envelope. (But that is a financial management tool for the slightly compulsive.) But if you have a true compulsion, the envelope doesn't matter if you have credit cards, debit cards, or a bank account. You use it until it drys up and then it's cold turkey.

I feel for you PurpleDC. I doubt I could ever really understand. I can only relate to addictions from the standpoint of my experience with tobacco products. It is not a joke and it is almost a compulsive need.
 
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