I could use a few more hits -- on my website, that is. Or how to get a free 15" AK.

Originally posted by Bill Martino
Great work, Beo, and thanks again.

Keep on smokin!!!!!!!!!!
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Thanks Uncle Bill :D - I also feel vindicated that it's not my html coding, but AOL which made the page slow.

My advice is for us to figure out which of the free biz sites to use - I think theshoppe is the best, but the banner at the top is bit unattractive, but they're very easy to manage.

And here's an example of the redirect page I was talking about for putting at the AOL address:

http://www.cog.jhu.edu/~slade/temp/hi/re-index.html



B.
 
Allow me to ask a question to clarify purposes: Uncle Bill, what is the reason for wanting more hits on your AOL site? I assume you want people to follow links from there to your shopping site, that means you (or Beo) probably need to think about things such as ensuring that every "appropriate" page on your AOL site has a link to the shopping site (yes, it can be done tastefully) if you don't already have this. Etc., etc. Beoram has done a fine job of it, I'm not going to second-guess his work, and I endorse his (somebody else's?) suggestion about finding another web host if you can get one that's both good and cheap. (What is AOL's policy about selling things off your home page, I thought you didn't mention prices there for some reason like that.)

Back to hits - they'll fall off again if you don't keep updating the site. I think some search engines use information about the date of last update in ranking pages.

Sorry to take so long to chime in, I have been in San Diego for a meeting, and just got back...my ears think they are still hearing amplified voices talking about technical matters half of I know nothing about, in the top of my skull is the sound of Pacific waves breaking on the shore, my legs remember the small shudders of the pier as the bigger waves hit...so if this posting makes no sense, just put it down to a high induced by the smell of salt water and seaweed...
 
Originally posted by Irregular
Allow me to ask a question to clarify purposes: Uncle Bill, what is the reason for wanting more hits on your AOL site? I assume you want people to follow links from there to your shopping site, that means you (or Beo) probably need to think about things such as ensuring that every "appropriate" page on your AOL site has a link to the shopping site (yes, it can be done tastefully) if you don't already have this. Etc., etc. Beoram has done a fine job of it, I'm not going to second-guess his work, and I endorse his (somebody else's?) suggestion about finding another web host if you can get one that's both good and cheap. (What is AOL's policy about selling things off your home page, I thought you didn't mention prices there for some reason like that.)

Back to hits - they'll fall off again if you don't keep updating the site. I think some search engines use information about the date of last update in ranking pages.
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thanks for your message irregular.

I assumed on designing the page that the goal was really to get people to the shopping site, so there's actually 3 prominent links to the shop (the old site didn't have a link until the bottom of the page, and it wasn't immediately obvious).

I'm not sure what you mean about every 'appropriate' page - do you just mean the 'sub-pages' (like 'Learn about Nepali kamis')? or...?

Actually the free sites I found are all designed for businesses, so they haven't any restrictions about that sort of thing. The free versions have banner ads and in one case pop-ups, only 20meg of free space v. 50meg of the $5/month version. This is versus AOL's site which takes over 2 minutes to read in about 300k worth of images and even then messes some things up and only has 2meg of free space.....

I think it's definitely time to put up the 'moved to another site' sign and get onto one of the fast free (or $5, depending) sites I unearthed. Cool web-addresses too, like khukuri.theshoppe.com....

On the search engines - does one actually have to change anything on the page, or just update the time/date stamp?

cheers, B.
 
Originally posted by Bill Martino
I'm delighted to get his expert help and advice. I'm ready to make a move.
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We just need to figure out which one of the new hosts you want to use - the entirety of the front-page is actually already loaded onto all of them. All we need do to 'move' is to drop the "We've Moved" redirect page onto the AOL address and you're 'moved'! And then I'll 'transfer control' over to you for whichever account we decide upon.

Since these other servers actually allow you much more space, it would be easy to work on moving some of your 'sub' pages (like the Kamis page) over later on...they'll be OK on AOL for now. These other servers also make it a lot easier for me to edit and tweak the page, so if we want to make future changes....

I don't know what you and others think about the banner ads and/or pop-ups. They don't bother me too much and if you want, I think all of them charge US$5/month for ad-free accounts.

let me know, cheers, B.
 
Beo, Uncle Bill, I'll get around to posting more about this tomorrow - Bladeforums has wasted my answer twice. Beo, Jakob Nielsen's site http://www.useit.com has some good stuff on Web site design, epecially in his Alertbox columns. At this point of time, I'd just like to toss into the ring the possibility of Himalayan Imports getting its own domain name...should cost a few tens of dollars a year (less than $100, I think, but I'll check.)
 
Thumbs up!

Loads fast, colorful text, interesting stuff in each sidebar. Anybody with the slightest interest in Khukuris would certainly be tempted to read everything.

Andrew Limsk
 
I think getting an HI domaine might be the way to go.

I now pay AOL 10 bucks per month for thier service (???).

How does this work? I use AOL for email and all the search engines send folks to the hi website at AOL. What happens with mail and searches if I get our own domain?

As you can see I don't know anything about any of this -- or anything else for that matter.
 
Originally posted by Bill Martino
I think getting an HI domaine might be the way to go.

I now pay AOL 10 bucks per month for thier service (???).

How does this work? I use AOL for email and all the search engines send folks to the hi website at AOL. What happens with mail and searches if I get our own domain?

As you can see I don't know anything about any of this -- or anything else for that matter.
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I think one can get a domain fairly cheaply - here's one site:

http://www.arishost.com/

for US$30/year -
[1]they will register a domain name for your
(essentially, as I understand it, there are some regulatory
committee(s) or maybe they're just computers now...but this
makes sure that everytime you type www.whatever.com the same thing comes up - so long as whoever holds that domain name keeps paying - in other words it's almost like renting physical space for a shop, you pay rent for being at a particular address)

www.khukuri.com is already taken, but www.hi-khukuri.com is free and they're lots of other possible names......

[2]host your web site with 30 MB of disk-space
[3]500MB monthly traffic - this is the bandwidth issue...some providers limit your bandwidth...i.e. how many times your site can be accessed in a month.

aris isn't the only place like this, I'll look round for some others, maybe ones with no/better bandwidth restrictions.

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On AOL - are they your service provider too? I mean, if you closed your AOL would your internet access cut off?


But here's the answer to your question about email and searches:

(1) one possibility (especially if AOL is providing you with web-access) is to keep the AOL account along with the new host, whether the new host is a full-blown domain name like www.hi-khukuri.com or one of the free hosts like khukuri.theshoppe.com. thus you keep your AOL email and when people do a search which pulls up the HI website at AOL and go to the AOL address, they'll hit the page which redirects them to the new site.
Fairly quickly the search engine will start pulling up the other site (whatever site we move to), and probably 'preferentially' - meaning just that most searches will pull up the new site before the old AOL one.

(2) possibility 2 is essentially possibility 1, with a limited time frame. You eventually get rid of AOL entirely, which include email and the current HI address on AOL, but you have an overlap. So sign up with someone else, but still keep AOL for a month, or 3 months, or 6 months or whatever. During this time, we'll have the redirect page at the AOL location, so people will learn to go to the new site instead; we'll change the contact email address on the new webpage to match your new address [most of the webpage hosting services, including the free ones, also provide you with free email] and you'll tell people that you've changed your email address.

Once the AOL HI site is completely gone, it won't take long for search engines to stop hitting it entirely.

cheers, B.
 
I probably won't be able to get much done while Pala is here. First things first, but all this goes on my "things to get done" list.

Thanks again for great help.
 
Originally posted by Bill Martino
I probably won't be able to get much done while Pala is here. First things first, but all this goes on my "things to get done" list.

Thanks again for great help.
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I could still always 'move' HI to khukuri.netshoppe.com or khukuri.netfirms.com for the interrim--this wouldn't take more than about 5 minutes, dropping the Redirect Page onto AOL. And then we could figure out later about a permanent solution when you've got more 'free time'.

B.
 
Could always get a famous personality to use or have a khuk (hopefully) in a good way and your email would be swamped. This publicity could be done in a movie, TV show or advertisement for the SUPER BOWL! The khuk used would have to be an HI of course!!!!!
 
Originally posted by Bill Martino
Which one is the best?
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I think that ultimately the $5/month account at http://khukuri.netfirms.com is the best bet, but you might want to take some more time to think about it before signing up for a non-free account. Right now http://khukuri.netfirms.com is up as a free account, but that means it has both banner ads and pop-up adverts. I think of the free ones, people have liked http://khukuri.theshoppe.com the best, but mainly because it doesn't have the pop-up advert that the netfirms one does.

I'm not sure if this is an answer or not. Of the two, in their free incarnations, I think http://khukuri.theshoppe.com is slightly better. But if you want a premium account on http://khukuri.theshoppe.com it's US$15/month v. $5 or $10/month (depending on what you want) on http://khukuri.netfirms.com . So I think (as I said in a post on the other thread) that ultimately the $5/month Netfirms one would be best.

But for chosing between the free versions for the interrim, I don't think it matters much. Assuming that the likelihood is that we'll eventually end up on the $5/mnth Netfirms; we can either:

[a]move over to the $0/month netfirms (khukuri.netfirms.com) now and thus when/if we sign up for their $5/month service, the address will stay the same

OR

move over to the $0/month khukuri.theshoppe.com [which people seem to slightly prefer over the $0-month khukuri.netfirms.com one] and then if/when we sign up for the Netfirms $5-service, just put up another redirect page to khukuri.netfirms.com

I don't think it matters much. Actually, the HI is currently online four times, all of them identical: the one at AOL; the one at khukuri.netfirms.com, the one at khukuri.theshoppe.com; the one at http://www.stormpages.com/khukuri/ .

Since netfirms, stormpages & theshoppe all have free accounts, I can actually change over whichever ones we don't decide to use as the 'main site' to redirect pages and thus you might actually end up with a few more hits if a search engine pulls up one of the other sites.

The reason I wouldn't advise going ahead and switching over to the $5/month netfirms now is because then I'd have to transfer 'ownership' of that site to you now; whereas if we just keep the free version, I can take care of it for the time being so you don't need to worry about it at all (esp. with Pala being here).

This is probably all as clear as mud--but the bottom line is: I think we should go ahead and move to 1 of the 2 free servers and it doesn't matter much which one we choose because whatever we decide to do later we can work it out.

B.
 
Originally posted by Bill Martino
Everybody knows more about this stuff than me so go ahead, Beo, and make the move.
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I think we should move to http://khukuri.netfirms.com - just betting on the fact that the best thing to do eventually is to sign up for their $5/month service and this way we only need 'move' once (not that any of this actually involves really moving files at this point).

Does anyone have any strong objections to moving to the http://khukuri.netfirms.com server??

If not, then, Uncle Bill, let me know when you'll be off of your AOL account for a while and I'll put in the Auto-Redirect Page there.

Once we 'move' I can also actually easily redo the sub-pages currently on AOL--(like 'New for 2000', &c.) which are taking forever to load up right now--and put them over on the new server.

let me know.

cheers, B.
 
Ben what ever Bro and you decide is fine with me. Y'all are the ones involved and I believe being so that the both of you should have the say as to where the old website is moved to even though I appreciate the request for prefernces.
And since ultimately the new website won't have banners Or popups I don't think it matters much either way.
And besides I personally don't visit the website that often, just to refresh my memory or to see what's available.

But with all that said getting H.I. their own domain is probably best all around.
I have probably misunderstood something and this post is gonna make me appear as ignorant as I really am about these matters.:p :D

It will just be wonderful to eventually have a website that loads quickly enough that I don't get aggravated and back out of because it's taking so long to load.:D
 
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