I don't know how to sharpen knives

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I have a work sharp sharpener and an old diamond stick.
2 questions:
A. What is a budget user friendly sharpening tool, stone, system?
2. What steel will not drive me crazy trying to keep it sharp?
I will be purchasing a pm2, p3, or manix 2/lightweight next friday (fingers crossed).
Is s30v the best all around steel?
Ooops, that's 3 questions, my bad.
 
Buy the Sharpmaker from Spyderco. You wont need anything else. Around 70$ or so. Comes with a DVD and there are plenty of youtube videos. Good luck. Once you get the hang of it you'll be fine
 
You can get an AGPtek system for less than $30. It comes with 4 stones and works just like the edge pro apex. Even accepts edge pro stones.

O.B.
 
I found carbon steel traditionals like case cv or opinels good to learn on.

Also, I second the sharpmaker as a great starter system . I still use mine on occasion. One word of advice, spring for the diamond stones. You will save yourself a lot of heartache in that first stage of trying to set the angles!!

Matt
 
If you can sharpen an old case, you can do the same with d2. Just need more time, or diamonds, or both.

D2 is a real bitch to sharpen with just basic stones.
 
sharpmaker. reprofiling it's not good or great for but if factory bevels are within the 40 and 30 range it's very useful for touchups.

you can always adjust your grip angle to hit the edge and use a sharpie to see where its hitting.
 
Learn how to sharpen with a smallish knife. Folks mentioned Case slip joints. A Rough Rider or Victorinox SAK would be a perfect practice knife. Just easier to control. You probably have some older kitchen knives (Chicago Cutlery/Old Hickory and the like) that make great sharpening practice knives. I generally use two bench stone approaches; the Norton India Stone (has two grits-It's inexpensive) for generally softer steels, and a couple different grits on large DMT DuoSharp (fine and coarse, and fine and extra fine get the most use) for harder modern steels. You need some patience to sharpen knives.
 
I have a work sharp sharpener and an old diamond stick.
2 questions:
A. What is a budget user friendly sharpening tool, stone, system?
2. What steel will not drive me crazy trying to keep it sharp?
I will be purchasing a pm2, p3, or manix 2/lightweight next friday (fingers crossed).
Is s30v the best all around steel?
Ooops, that's 3 questions, my bad.
Lansky sharpener. Cheap and it works. Itll sharpen what ever you throw at it.
 
Knife sharpening can be a hair pulling experience or it can be relax therapy. As mentioned, I tend to use bench stones or the manual approach to most sharpening, but I also occasionally strop my blades. Just depends on how sharp I'm trying to get them and how much effort I want to put into it. On occasion, I still experience some hair pulling....

The Lansky system is pretty inexpensive if you want a guided system.

Take a look at the short video on the Dozier knives website on sharpening with a DMT diamond "stone". Pretty simple, but you have to pay attention to your angles.
 
Diamond lansky kit for s30v. Then get some diamond paste or spray for the strop.

Reason being the Vanadium in s30v won't be cut by much else other than cbn or diamond abrasives.

The lansky leaves alot to be desired but it's affordable and easy to use.
 
I tried a sharpmaker first and eventually got frustrated because the bevels on the knives I owned were often too obtuse to be sharpened efficiently. So I moved to freehanding. Got a cheap stone and some old kitchen knives and learned.

I mention this just as an example that, as your skill level and needs change, you will almost certainly get new or different sharpening equipment. So don’t worry about getting the ultimate sharpening set up right now. Just get one that you’re willing to start with. A sharpmaker works well for that.
 
One of the things I never thought of when people ask me how I learned to get them so sharp is how I got to the point that I can freehand even the super steels/alloys?

I started sharpening on high carbon steel blades and spent 10-15 years on knives like Case’s CV or CS’s Carbon V and softer steels than most knives are made of today.

15 years of repetition, developing muscle memory and learning to maintain the appropriate angle.

Hundreds of $ on sharpening systems. I had them all, tri hones, tri stones, clamped jigs platters, V sticks, diamond, ceramic, water stones, I finally stopped after buying an EdgePro and realizing I tended to freehand for 99% of my sharpening.

That’s not to say that all the systems don’t have their place.

The Sharpmaker sees most use in the kitchen on the kitchen knives plus it was easy to teach the spouse and kids to properly use it and achieve a great edge.

The Lansky/Gatco clamp style are in the tool box for my work knives which are mostly straight edge blades like sheepsfoot and warncliffe which the clamp style sharpeners are better suited.

Pocket homes, stones go in portable PSKs, packs, BOBs and attached to sheaths for field expedient touch ups.

The EdgePro was for resetting the primary bevel of a severely abused edge.

All that being said my advice is to buy the best 8” bench stones/hones you can afford. Buy a few stones covering from coarse to fine and remember if you use the proper grit you shouldn’t have to push hard to get your edge back.

Invest in some decent optics like a 10X jewelers loupe and learn what a sharp edge looks like. I see so many people investing money, energy and time into gettin ‘ a sharp edge yet they’ve never seen what one actually looks like up close. Get a loupe and find a knife you consider to be sharp and look at the edge under a good light. See what a sharp edge looks like and you’ll have a reference.

Lastly when using bench stones/hones learn to use your whole body to maintain your angle and follow through on the stones/hones and strops. Don’t lift the knife till the edge is past the end of your s/h & s. Most people tend to rotate their wrists as the lift the edge from the sharpening surface and drag the apex of their freshly attained edge.

Easiest way to avoid that is just follow through past the edge before lifting the blade. Patience is a must and practice mandatory. I sharpen every day for hours sometimes, I find it almost as soothing as ridin’my bike.

Last piece of advice I’ll give you is that most people who do their own sharpening tend to be so obsessed with a razor sharp edge they tend toward over sharpening. Why drag out the rig and remove copious amounts of steel to get that razor edge when all the edge needed was a stropping.

Nothing beats a freehand edge when it comes to ease and portability providing you have the right skills and tools. A sharp edge isn’t about how you get there as much as the final result before you declare the edge sharp.
 
Sharpmaker, it comes with medium and fine grit rods, plus you can purchase diamond and ultra fine rods later on. I highly recommend.
 
I would also like to add that the Sharpmaker has more slots to use. I don’t even use the 30 and 40 degree angles much any more. I mostly use the slot on the bottom for sharpening scissors and get great results on my knives. Plus there are slots on the back that lay the rods flat that can be used for freehand sharpening.
 
Sounds like sharpmaker wins! I'm not too concerned about professional level sharpening. Sounds like the sky's the limit when it comes to sharpening products. The sharpmaker is at about the right price point and usability that fits my needs right now.
Thanks guys!
 
If you end up going the Lansky route I recommend that you DO NOT get the soft jawed clamp. It does a nice job of protecting your blade from scratches, however if you use slightly too much pressure the rubber will compress and change your sharpening angle. Kinda defeats the purpose
 
I tend to sharpen with a bench stone on my leg (pants), but to really pay attention to your sharpening angles lay the bench stone flat on a table and try to maintain the same angle. Takes a little practice. I started out sharpening Case slip joints as a kid. Watched my Dad do it... At the time I used a swirling motion on the stone and have gradually shifted to a flat slicing motion where I can watch my angles better.

For the most part, you seldom need a coarse grit bench stone unless you are working on repairing an edge. I use coarse on my machetes and finish up on the fine side.
 
I did think of one other thing, my buddy bought a powered sharpener like the Ken Onion Work Sharp and I warned him that it’s not impossible to screw up an edge on a manual sharpening system but it happens so much quicker on a powered system. Usually it’s too late by the time you realize you’ve messed up the edge on something like a KOWS it’s irreparable. Where as manually you usually have plenty of time to catch it and steel left to correct it.
 
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