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Positive benefit 1:
This is the most efficient way to clean a wound. There is no other way to clean a wound as efficient as with maggots.
Positive benefit 2:
The maggots also secrete an bacteriostatic fluid that stops growth of new bacteria. They effectively leave a sterile tract everywhere they come
Positive benefit 3:
The maggots also secrete a fluid that enhances the growth of healthy tissue.
The therapy has been used for 1000's of years, first by the Maya's, The French Army used it with great succes during the Napoleon Era.
The therapy was "reinvented" by William S Bear an US army doctor in 1929, when he remembered that he saw soldiers in WWI who lay wounded for days in no-one's land.
After cleaning the maggot infested wounds of these soldiers their wounds were clean, and already healing, in contrary to the wounds of soldiers treated in the military hospital. He did a clinical trail on 21 patients with a bad prognosis and the wounds of all 21 patients healed.
The treatment was popular until the 40's when penicilline was invented.
In the 90's doctors started again with the treatment because it was the most effective way to treat certain wounds.
- burnwounds
- decubitus wounds
- Ulcus Cruris wounds ( open leg wound with diabetic patients)
- Ulcera and necrotic wounds
The Lucilia Sericata maggots (greenbottle-fly) are the only maggots that can be used for this treatment because these are the only maggots known that don't digest healthy tissue. The maggots only live for 6 days so they have a short lifespan to be used. After 6 days (when they are already long been removed) they will transform into flies.
Benefits:
-Treatment is less painfull
-healing is better and faster with maggot therapy, about 7 times faster than conventional therapy.
-the procedure is cheaper ( faster healing equals less days in the hospital and less doctors visits)
Drawbacks
-The only drawback is to find a hospital that uses the procedure, and the patiënt resentment
CAUTION: There are 100000 different species of flies. The Lucilia Sericata maggots are the only one who are useable. This is not a DIY treatment
I searched for some peer reviewed medical studies for references . It turns out the maggot therapy is especially effective in MRSA infected wounds because the secretions are able to penetrate the protective shield of the Staphylococcus aureus bio armour ( something i didn't knew)
The abstracts will give you enough information
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17385589
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20189943
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19856274
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19844278 (free article)
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17965032
here is a BBC article about MRSA treatment with the maggots
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/manchester/6614471.stm
They are now trying to duplicate the enzyme CHYMOTRIPSIN to be used against MRSA
http://www.wipo.int/pctdb/en/wo.jsp?WO=2007138361&IA=GB2007050307&DISPLAY=DESC
Positive benefit 1:
This is the most efficient way to clean a wound. There is no other way to clean a wound as efficient as with maggots.
Positive benefit 2:
The maggots also secrete an bacteriostatic fluid that stops growth of new bacteria. They effectively leave a sterile tract everywhere they come
Positive benefit 3:
The maggots also secrete a fluid that enhances the growth of healthy tissue.
The therapy has been used for 1000's of years, first by the Maya's, The French Army used it with great succes during the Napoleon Era.
The therapy was "reinvented" by William S Bear an US army doctor in 1929, when he remembered that he saw soldiers in WWI who lay wounded for days in no-one's land.
After cleaning the maggot infested wounds of these soldiers their wounds were clean, and already healing, in contrary to the wounds of soldiers treated in the military hospital. He did a clinical trail on 21 patients with a bad prognosis and the wounds of all 21 patients healed.
The treatment was popular until the 40's when penicilline was invented.
In the 90's doctors started again with the treatment because it was the most effective way to treat certain wounds.
- burnwounds
- decubitus wounds
- Ulcus Cruris wounds ( open leg wound with diabetic patients)
- Ulcera and necrotic wounds
The Lucilia Sericata maggots (greenbottle-fly) are the only maggots that can be used for this treatment because these are the only maggots known that don't digest healthy tissue. The maggots only live for 6 days so they have a short lifespan to be used. After 6 days (when they are already long been removed) they will transform into flies.
Benefits:
-Treatment is less painfull
-healing is better and faster with maggot therapy, about 7 times faster than conventional therapy.
-the procedure is cheaper ( faster healing equals less days in the hospital and less doctors visits)
Drawbacks
-The only drawback is to find a hospital that uses the procedure, and the patiënt resentment
CAUTION: There are 100000 different species of flies. The Lucilia Sericata maggots are the only one who are useable. This is not a DIY treatment
I searched for some peer reviewed medical studies for references . It turns out the maggot therapy is especially effective in MRSA infected wounds because the secretions are able to penetrate the protective shield of the Staphylococcus aureus bio armour ( something i didn't knew)
The abstracts will give you enough information
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17385589
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20189943
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19856274
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19844278 (free article)
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17965032
here is a BBC article about MRSA treatment with the maggots
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/manchester/6614471.stm
They are now trying to duplicate the enzyme CHYMOTRIPSIN to be used against MRSA
http://www.wipo.int/pctdb/en/wo.jsp?WO=2007138361&IA=GB2007050307&DISPLAY=DESC
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...CAUTION: There are 100000 different species of flies. The Lucilia Sericata maggots are the only one who are useable. This is not a DIY treatment
Damn...I better call Qjr. off his maggot collection chores.
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LOL
Sad news but IMHO a good prognosis!
Keep up the faith.
Your a strong man, with lots of support.
Fight your fears!
Sad news but IMHO a good prognosis!
Keep up the faith.
Your a strong man, with lots of support.
Fight your fears!
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Interesting PayetteRucker...the infectious disease doctor just came in to see me and (unprompted) mentioned this very same (and very perplexing) phenomenon, which he said is becoming more and more common. Multiple reinfections of the same individual.
He also said that MRSA is a "perfect storm" of the meeting of bacteria presence, skin opening, and growing conditions. And he said I wasn't defective...that I'm still a he-man.
Caught mrsa a few years ago,couldn't figure out what was wrong.One morning I hurt too much to sleep and went to the er. Ended up being operated on,basically the surgeon cored out the infected areas I had several) like you would a bad spot in an apple. These holes were packed with medicated gauze.This had to be yanked out and fresh gauze jammed in,every eight hours. Two weeks in the hospital,then home for six weeks of intravenous antibiotics. I learned how to give myself the antibiotics,and change the gauze. It's nasty stuff and I hope you recover soon.
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Crazy thread, but thanks to Q and Jim for letting us be in on the conversation. I'm goin hiking tomorrow and will be extra careful of wounds.
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I also had MRSA back in 2008. Its terrible Nasty and painfull. Since then I treat every wound with great care. Good Luck and Best Wishes for your recovery.
I had never heard of mrsa til now but i'm glad of this thread
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no problem.
Everything i wrote i learned from someone else.
Just compiled what i knew.
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Q thanks for the info. Take care and get well soon.
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wow ive never even heard of MRSA...im like you Q never go to the hospital...only get sick once a year if that and consider myself manly
i think maybe ill tend to my wounds a bit closer,
i think maybe ill tend to my wounds a bit closer,
Q, good luck with the antibiotic treatment, hope it works out. But, if it doesn't we expect Lots of pics of the maggot treatment, if ya got to have it, that sounds cool as hell.
Jim, Excellent info, thanks for the post.
Friend of mine here had MRSA last year, 2 places at the same time, took a long time to heal.
Jim, Excellent info, thanks for the post.
Friend of mine here had MRSA last year, 2 places at the same time, took a long time to heal.
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Hey Q, here's to a speedy recovery. :thumbup:
MRSA is an important thing to know about, apparently. Thanks to you, now I do.
Doc
MRSA is an important thing to know about, apparently. Thanks to you, now I do.
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Indeed...I've been told by two different infectious disease specialists that "MRSA has become so prevalent (and it's so virulent) that we assume it's MRSA until proven otherwise."
My wife snapped a cell phone picture of the nasty fella, but I can't upload it to my image server because this damn hospital blocks FTP and SSL ports at their firewall and thats how I get my images where they need to go. BTY, these people also block a host of websites as "Denied - Content Labeled Weapons" with their Barracuda Networks Fascist Hitlerian Device...sites like DIXIE GUN WORKS.
