wow...... did not know people could not read with out...........s at the end of a sentence and know the persons name was not ass head lol........im am 31 years old my dad was showing me knives he bought from ebay..... he just started buying on ebay a week ago.... he was not aware that ebay would allow people to pawn off fake products....... when i saw them i was mad because he got cheated out of his money... my mistake i thought bladeforum. was here to talk about knives....O and a little info i have over 1500 knives of every make and model i also make them.... So i might need to ask my (hommies) instead of the little boys here............