i got ripped off

chances are it seems to be genuine. iirc, someone mentioned it was purchased during the camillus auction? i suspect it's either a second, or an abused copy. probably bad heat treat. there are plenty of camillus cast offs without stamps even. hell, i have one or two. a bad stamp? easy to believe. it's not a chinese copy. it could be the most elaborate fake ever, but i doubt that. easier to believe it's just a binned item. as well, i've seen a couple second throw-aways from Blackjack.

have you folx not seen the Camillus "seconds" with the handles put on backwards? nice. i think phil gibbs had a few pictures or examples of those. nice.

since it's stripped, annealing and heat treating it properly could be easy, and a win.

though honestly, i would suggest you hold off on that for a few months, unless someone wants to help out on this for a lark. just saying.
 
The poor quality of the stamping, compared to the crisp readable markings I have seen on real ones.


The blotchy unreadable stamp in no way resembles this one: the text is the same, but you can read this one clearly.


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Not so here:
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What about the picture of the same logo stripped though? I certainly do not intend any criticism towards the OP, but the only thing wrong with the logo on the stripped picture is the blurry photography. Sharpen up the picture, and that logo will look just as crisp as the example I compared it to. The picture when it still had the coating that you're comparing it to could be explained any number of ways that do not involve a forgery. Namely, it could be a second, or it could've been repainted by a previous user. Regardless, stripped, it doesn't look like a fake to me at all. I'd sure like to see what Ethan or Moose or Bladite has to say about that.

Blues

ETA: Bladite posted while I was still writing.

Bladite, I don't think this one is said to have come from the Camillus auction. That was a thread I started about a BK2 and BK9 last week, referring to knives that had leather sheaths with them.
 
FWIW: My "stamping" looks identical to Moose's. The one in question is clearly different, might be authentic too but, it's different nonetheless.

The other thing that I notice, on an original(mine), the "line" above the stamping from grinding the bevel forms an arc as it joins the spine. Again, just like Moose's. On the E-Bay version, it does not. It forms a straight line, from edge to spine. Hmmmm?
 
since i got disabled a couple of years ago i was going to save up and by some equipment to try working on my knives for myself as a hobby - there is a lot of good information here on this website -- so one of these days -

thanks again to everyone for your ideas and insights.

Eric
 
FWIW: My "stamping" looks identical to Moose's. The one in question is clearly different, might be authentic too but, it's different nonetheless.

The other thing that I notice, on an original(mine), the "line" above the stamping from grinding the bevel forms an arc as it joins the spine. Again, just like Moose's. On the E-Bay version, it does not. It forms a straight line, from edge to spine. Hmmmm?

I apologize if I am violating protocol by resurrecting an old thread but I may have figured this out. There have been a lot of post-bankruptcy Camillus blades sold on ebay over the last couple years. The blades made for Cold Steel are sold with the name ground off but unfinished blades made for BKT that are being listed have the stamp intact. I suspect someone might have purchased one of these blades and completed the knife without doing a proper heat treatment of the steel. This could be the reason the edge of the bevel is different and explain why it bent when used.
 
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I had the same thought while reading through the thread. I think we're probably correct. ;)
 
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