I have gotten to where I hate Torx screws.

I actually don't have a problem with the TORX screws , my problem is that most of the TORX screwdrivers out there are piece of crap

If you want a solid TORX screwdriver that won't break after 2 days and ruin your screws , you need to buy something like Snap-on or Wiha
They are not cheap , but they are definitely worth it , especially considering you don't need a full set , T6 and T10 are pretty much all you will ever need

This is an excellent torx set. It's opened every brand from BM, Spyderco, Kershaw, CS, and others. Click this link! Best $7 I ever spent on a knife accessory. :)
 
This thread couldn't have come at a better time. I just picked up a BM 710 from a forum member and decided to carry it with me to work the other night. When I got home I noticed that it just slipped out of my pocket with no resistance when I took it out.

I looked at the clip and saw that one of the screws was missing entirely and the remaining ones were about to fall out. Luckily I decided to take it out when I did or I might have lost the clip entirely.
 
Wildone39, How about a meduim or large Cold Steel Voyager? I have tanto and clip point blade large Voyagers 4" blades. They're delivered like razor sharp and hold an edge pretty well. They're simple to sharpen, pinned and still tight as a drum after a lot of light to medium use. I love them. They're still around (new - old stock models). CS does a a good job on them Japanese VG-1. I think I paid about $40 for each. :thumbup:

I have never owned a Cold Steel knife or a Benchmade knife to be honest. I have over 130 knives but those brands I do not own. Thats sad really. I will have to try the Cold Steel knife you are talking about. Thank you very much.
 
This thread couldn't have come at a better time. I just picked up a BM 710 from a forum member and decided to carry it with me to work the other night. When I got home I noticed that it just slipped out of my pocket with no resistance when I took it out.

I looked at the clip and saw that one of the screws was missing entirely and the remaining ones were about to fall out. Luckily I decided to take it out when I did or I might have lost the clip entirely.

That was my point exactly. A nice knife I own ( I wont mention the brand name ) I was carrying it around for a few weeks after I bought it. Its a popular knife here on the forums. Well anyway, I took it out of my pocket and noticed the handle had play and the blade had side to side play. I checked the screws on the handle and blade and all were very loose. I have tightened them and even used locite on them. Now I am checking all of my knives for the same reason and I have found that about a quarter of my knives needed the screws tightened. I am not hard on knives at all, other than opening a can of skoal or something. I have lost confidence in knives with screws, weather it be torx phillips etc. I made it just fine growing up with a Buck 110 knife and its pinned, so that is the reason I posted this thought on here. If your in the woods and need your knife and the screws are loose, most people I know don't carry torx bits with them every day. So what are you to do? Anyway, that is my whole point on the subject. I just lost my confidence with any knife that has a screw were the pin should be. Im sorry guys, I dont want to start a flame war. Just check your knives.
 
This thread couldn't have come at a better time. I just picked up a BM 710 from a forum member and decided to carry it with me to work the other night. When I got home I noticed that it just slipped out of my pocket with no resistance when I took it out.

I looked at the clip and saw that one of the screws was missing entirely and the remaining ones were about to fall out. Luckily I decided to take it out when I did or I might have lost the clip entirely.

when your knife gets a little more beat up, send it into Benchmade and they will refurbish it- replace screws, clip, etc.
 
For the very small micro screws, nothing is superior to the Torx recess. Hex fittings are awful when compared to torx, especially in such small sizes.

As noted, the problem could be poorly made drivers (Wiha, Wera, and Moody tips are superb, and most cheapos are terrible) or soft screws. If you get insert bits, you need to get quality hardened S2 steel bits. Here are some links to quality drivers (my favorite are those from Wera; I have several different types):

Commando Products: http://www.commandoproducts.com/comindex.htm
PB Baumann: http://www.pbtools.us/
Moody: http://www.moodytools.com/
Wera Tools: http://www.wera.de/cgi-bin/vshop?HTML=wera_us.htm
Wiha Tools: http://www.wihatools.com/

The tiny screws are usually T6 or T7, and if you use the wrong size you will strip something! If you need new screws, go to http://www.smallparts.com and order some stainless hardened screws with the right length and threading.

The blue "chapstick" style loctite works well, and doesn't migrate like the liquid kind, but if you use loctite you need to remove all oil from the screw and nut threading before use.

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The screw head recess style has nothing to do with thing loosening up.
 
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A part of the problem may and not so much be the screws as the tapped holes for the threads. If the holes are slightly oversized or the threads sloppy no screw will hold well.

Keep in mind that the part of the screw that keeps things tight is not the head (whether torx, philips, hex or whatever) but the threads and the thread engagement. If that ain't right loc-tite is a necessity.

Threads into metal will hold better over time than threads into G-10, Zytel or Micarta. With these latter it is easier to damage the threads in the handle by over tightening, etc.

tipoc
 
A part of the problem may and not so much be the screws as the tapped holes for the threads. If the holes are slightly oversized or the threads sloppy no screw will hold well.

Keep in mind that the part of the screw that keeps things tight is not the head (whether torx, philips, hex or whatever) but the threads and the thread engagement. If that ain't right loc-tite is a necessity.

Threads into metal will hold better over time than threads into G-10, Zytel or Micarta. With these latter it is easier to damage the threads in the handle by over tightening, etc.

tipoc
Good Thought tipoc, I haven't thought of that until you said it.
 
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