I need 2 1/2" of cutting pleasure

gomipile said:
The law isn't the issue, its the fact that their DA, Cyrus R. Vance, Jr. has chosen to reinterpret the law. He considers any one hand opening knife to be a switchblade.
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Samael said:
Yeah. Unless it's a "gravity knife" (which Cyrus Vance will tell you that is). Or unless the clip is showing.
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he size of the blade and locking mechanism isn't in question. NYC penal law specifically states blade lengths under 4". as far as gravity knife goes, that's a whole other discussion. if the DA's interpretation of the law on gravity knives/switchblades is based on "one hand opening", he is not only misinterpreting the law he's making up his own. we'll save that discussion for another day as to not muddy up the OP's thread.
 
furfmonkey said:
well if people would stop stabbing each other... my precinct has had over 12 stabbings since Jan
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unfortunately, people will always find a way (new or old) to harm each other.

questions: would you happen to know what type of knives where used in the majority of those assaults? (im just curious). you could leave me a message to take this topic away from here.
 
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Yeah, banning all this stuff hasn't exactly solved London's problems. But seriously, we're way off-topic here. Start a new thread (preferably in Knife Laws) if you want to talk about this.
 
jimnolimit said:
unfortunately, people will always find a way (new or old) to harm each other.

questions: would you happen to know what type of knives where used in the majority of those assaults? (im just curious). you could leave me a message to take this topic away from here.
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most of the knives we take off perps are either those folding boxcutter superknife this some have fixed blade dagger types and a bunch of cheap folders.. i think ive taken maybe 10 benchmades and kershaws out of a few hundred knives.. mostly pakistan 3buck off a street vendor jobs.. the criminals in brooklyn are bargain shoppers :)


sorry for post just answering a question .... again sorry
 
Boker makes a 2.5" blade mini sodbuster that goes for around $20. There's the Kershaw OD-2, Baby Boa, and Scallion. The small Buck Vantage is 2 5/8" but could easily be reprofiled down to 2.5"
 
I gotta say dragonfly.
I got the g10 version about a month ago and it is fantastic.
 
Another vote for the G-10 Dragonfly. Extremely nice little folder that is an excellent slicer.

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If you take a look at traditional-style knives you'll find quite a few with blades that meet the federal 2.5" limit.
 
popedandy said:
If you take a look at traditional-style knives you'll find quite a few with blades that meet the federal 2.5" limit.
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I'm a little surprised no-one's mentioned this yet. Yep, just about everywhere has an exception for "pocket knives," and that's what they're talking about. I've actually got a little SAK I'll slip into my pocket when I'm going somewhere that having a "real" knife could be a problem, and I have yet to hear a complaint about it from anyone.
 
Samael said:
I've got to second this. As someone who spends a pretty fair amount of time in and out of federal buildings, if you've got to go through a metal detector, there is no acceptable blade length.
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This will be off-topic but linked to on-topic.

Another confirmation of this. 18 U.S.C sec. 930 excludes from the definition of "dangerous weapon" "a pocket knife with a blade less than 2 1/2 inches in length."

The definition does nothing to stop federal buildings from imposing rules that go farther. All it means is that if your pocket knife's blade is UNDER 2.5", you won't be charged with a crime. 930does not create a "right" to bring a knife into a federal building.

And here's where I'll link this to the topic. I owned a Dragonfly. If you measure the blade the way most of us do--the blade = total length minus the handle, the Dragonfly is okay. But guess what--federal prosecutors don't have to see it that way. I think the shape of the blade end of the Dragonfly handle leaves the blade length ambiguous and arguable. I ended up selling mine for that reason.

My point, and advice, is to chose a knife with a blade that can no way be measured as 2.5." For example, any way you measure a Boker Subcom, it's well under 2.5." Trust me, you don't want to be prosecuted by the Feds.
 
Ah. That's perfecttly on-topic. I just didn't want this to digress into a tirade about New York's knife laws (and it was headed there rapidly).

Your point is extremely valid, and mirrors my statement that they can (and do) ban all knives, depending on the circumstances. Metal detector? Fuhgetaboutit.
 
not to sound dumb but why bother carrying if its such a hassle? theres plenty of times when i am off duty i dont carry a knife or my off duty pistol.. if you need a blade at work just use a boxcutter? yeah i love knives but im not gonna carry one into a federal building or a preschool.. time and a place IMO


if you ae making deliveries just leave it in the vehicle
 
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There's plenty of beautiful traditional slipjoints that fit the bill - ask the gents over in the Trad subforum. Otherwise, I would recommend a Boker Subcom or Wharcom. Known as "The Biscuit" they look very unitimidating when closed and have pretty awesome ergonomics, no matter how they look in photos.
 
Samael said:
Ah. That's perfecttly on-topic. I just didn't want this to digress into a tirade about New York's knife laws (and it was headed there rapidly).

Your point is extremely valid, and mirrors my statement that they can (and do) ban all knives, depending on the circumstances. Metal detector? Fuhgetaboutit.
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Thank you. And to the extent it wan't clear, the upshot is that you don't want to even try to bring a 2.5" or longer blade into a federal building because to do so would violate 18 usc 930. But even if you carry <2.5", it will likely be taken from you at the door. And no, they won't hold it for you while you go about your business.

I have a long history of burying knives in flowerpots and such outside restricted buildings.
 
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