I need an axe/ tomahawk!!

As far as home defense goes, no one has mentioned the benefit of a well trained German Shepherd. To me that's the ultimate threat equalizer. When my wife and I move one of our biggest priorities is a yard that will house a fully protection trained GSD. We're talking to the folks at Kraftwerks now, getting some timelines together.
 
Kirkwood said:
I'm so lost here. I've been to lots of malls and ain't ever seen no ninjas. But I'll keep en eye out. ;)

I got a hawk from James Helm, Stormcrow here on BF. I got it for cool looks, good materials, good maker, and less expensive than Busse or RMJ. Haven't used it yet so that's all I got for now. Will have to remedy that.
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Duh, you can't see the ninjas because they are ninjas!
 
Kirkwood said:
I'm so lost here. I've been to lots of malls and ain't ever seen no ninjas. But I'll keep en eye out. ;)

I got a hawk from James Helm, Stormcrow here on BF. I got it for cool looks, good materials, good maker, and less expensive than Busse or RMJ. Haven't used it yet so that's all I got for now. Will have to remedy that.
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You have apparently never been shopping in Gecko45's Mall!

The original mall ninja, and where it comes from as far as I know.
 
Hey bonafide,
You mentioned earlier walkbyfaith777, those ones look amazing! How do you compare them to the others? I think Eric and I was on the same page thinking about finding a hawk to go with our Fiddlebacks. Does the hand forged add more weight? How much should a good hawk weight?
 
Redbird777 said:
Hey bonafide,
You mentioned earlier walkbyfaith777, those ones look amazing! How do you compare them to the others? I think Eric and I was on the same page thinking about finding a hawk to go with our Fiddlebacks. Does the hand forged add more weight? How much should a good hawk weight?
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The walkbyfaith stuff (Brian Otto) is amazing craftsmanship and very affordable prices - if you're sticking with a Thru The Top traditional. His wife Tena does their leather work and it's spot on as well. I can not remember what steel he used, but they would show up sharp enough to shave with and the exactness to his work amazes me for being hand forged. They were heavier than a typical 2hawks, but every other hawk I own is heavier than a 2hawk - but most are much larger too. So, I dont know if it's the size or steel used or the combination of the two that's the factor of heavier. As for what do you want your hawk to weigh .. guess that depends on it's primary duty. Woods/Trail work .. I'd kinda want one with some weight but not so much that I could just as well go with a mid-sized hatchet or small axe. If you're intentions are combative, lighter weight = faster work.

Couple more good makers .. try to find Steve Liley aka Coal Creek Forge. His mark is 'SL'. Hard to find but his stuff pops up every now and then. And Butch Silver out of North Carolina.

I'm not a collector of tactical hawks - but I like their addition to my tactical gear. I introduced some local tactical teams to hawks and they have become popular around here. I havent been to it, but someone is offering a class that includes a couple hours of Tactical Hawk techniques. Their breaching abilities is very helpful .. like popping a master lock, raking a window, making a new doorway. All that cool CQB/entry stuff. :)

Steve Liley aka Coal Creek Forge hawk - Zebrawood haft

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Walk By Faith - Custom bearded w/spike. I cant remember what kind of wood that haft is .. something exotic. heh.

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One wall/part of my hawk collection. You could say it got obsessive. :p

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I liked 2hawk woodsman but I liked the extended hammer of the cold steel trail hawk. I was also looking for something like this thread and since I live in a desert, I figured the hawk would be the way to go instead of an axe. Liked the Voyager, the bigger head might be more useful but Brian Otto's hammer poll looks like the cross of the cold steel and 2hawks voyager, just heavy at 24oz.
 
This is a daunting decision with so many brands/choices available. I own the Hultafors (hoolt-uh-foorsh) trekking axe (15" height with about 1# head) and I love it. Difficult to find in them in the US but possible. It's very utilitarian and non threatening out in the woods. Very quality leather sheath comes with it.
That said I also have the Emerson design CQC tomahawk by AT. It's most fit for combat but could split and cut wood just fine. I like it very much also- very light in the hand and made tough as nails by the folks at American Tomahawk. Could easily scare folks on the trails on appearance only and the back spike is sharper than most of my knives so you REALLY want to yield it with caution. Hope this helps.
 
I have 3 hawks right now, a Ranger knives RD Hawk (One of the first Justin made), a GRF Medium French hawk (discontinued) and a Cold Steel Trail hawk.

The Trail hawk is my favorite thrower and the French hawk is my favorite user. The RD Hawk is cool, but after getting bit by the spike, it hasn't seen much use. Kept it in my car as an emergency rescue tool. That's probably where it will end up once I get a car/truck again.

The Trail hawk has a small cutting surface. For some reason, I tend to over strike and hit the handle often. The French has a larger cutting area and hits every time for me. That's why the French is my user and it sees use. Mainly for splitting kindling, some throwing and occasionally chopping.
 
I was messing around on youtube and stumbled upon some instructional videos of using a hawk for self-defense. If one could become proficient enough, it looks to be excellent in CQC tactics. Using the beard as a rake would demolish somebody! You could rip their shoulder apart in a hot second!
 
I was messing around on youtube and stumbled upon some instructional videos of using a hawk for self-defense.
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It's a shame you found that video emoney, because I was just talking to some guys and we were about to come get you...
 
Swamprat KDSH- Tough as hell, and has been a wonderul bushcraft tool. Thin stock and very easy to bring to a razor edge.
Gransfors Bruks Hunter Axe- Very nice, great performer, not tacticool, and easy to carry in your pack.
 
Heah Guy, I have a few of 2Hawks implements, my fav's the Trapper Double Bit Hatchet and my WarBeast, the Double Bit Hatchet is a lightweight that punches like a heavyweight, I can chop and split the way I have it set up, the Warbeast is very portable and I can use the Heah like a Ulu a Scrapper or a Wedge, I have a Gransfors Bruks Small Forest Axe and a Iltis Oxhead which I had hanged on a White Hickory Handle very thin face but the weight makes a easy job of camp chores a little too heavy to on person carry, 3 Estwing's in different sizes great beaters I can baton with them and not bad, I also have a vintage Norlund Mini Hatchet one of my fav's but defenetly I would recommand my WarBeast for the simple reasons I mentioned plus the easy carry even with a Shoulder Sling Pack, the fact it has three sharp edges allows me to pull the Warbeast out of wood much easier, I have absolutly no problems with mine and what I do in the bush I use it more then my G.B. I have it paired off with my Wicked Tough Saw made by Wicked Tree Gear my fav even over the Bacho Laplander because it's very compact but tough and I can carry it the open possition and I can even lite chop with it I'm not in the habit of doing that but sometimes I chop through a branch that's almost cut, my knife I like with this set I have a modified Rodent 6 without the top gaurd and I had it thinned down so yeah I can build a quick shelter if needed, process wood and take the head off and use it as is for many camp choirs I can process alot of wood with it, I didn't get the wrap because I like to break it down but even so I can on person carry it, I though the Warbeast was Tactical use only it's not at least it's not for me I like my trio and if I want I can neck carry a knife but with the choil on my knife I find I don't need to for what I do, yeah my vote defenetly Warbeast.
 
paul'ie said:
Heah Guy, I have a few of 2Hawks implements, my fav's the Trapper Double Bit Hatchet and my WarBeast, the Double Bit Hatchet is a lightweight that punches like a heavyweight, I can chop and split the way I have it set up, the Warbeast is very portable and I can use the Heah like a Ulu a Scrapper or a Wedge, I have a Gransfors Bruks Small Forest Axe and a Iltis Oxhead which I had hanged on a White Hickory Handle very thin face but the weight makes a easy job of camp chores a little too heavy to on person carry, 3 Estwing's in different sizes great beaters I can baton with them and not bad, I also have a vintage Norlund Mini Hatchet one of my fav's but defenetly I would recommand my WarBeast for the simple reasons I mentioned plus the easy carry even with a Shoulder Sling Pack, the fact it has three sharp edges allows me to pull the Warbeast out of wood much easier, I have absolutly no problems with mine and what I do in the bush I use it more then my G.B. I have it paired off with my Wicked Tough Saw made by Wicked Tree Gear my fav even over the Bacho Laplander because it's very compact but tough and I can carry it the open possition and I can even lite chop with it I'm not in the habit of doing that but sometimes I chop through a branch that's almost cut, my knife I like with this set I have a modified Rodent 6 without the top gaurd and I had it thinned down so yeah I can build a quick shelter if needed, process wood and take the head off and use it as is for many camp choirs I can process alot of wood with it, I didn't get the wrap because I like to break it down but even so I can on person carry it, I though the Warbeast was Tactical use only it's not at least it's not for me I like my trio and if I want I can neck carry a knife but with the choil on my knife I find I don't need to for what I do, yeah my vote defenetly Warbeast.
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It's going to take more than an axe or tomahawk to cut up that run on scentence.
 
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