I need to vent. (Knives ARE mentioned!)

I am glad that you have not been dragged down by such ignorant people. You know what is important in life and that is all that matters.
 
guess the RRs haven't changed much since my Dad's times. after an accident on the RR and working like a dog for them, they got their lawyer working on a few guys, and next thing you know they're losing jobs and/or pensions! i was only a kid and he kept a lot of this to himself. you're better off. believe me. nurses at my VA constantly say in the middle of s**t happening, "i wonder if Wal-mart is hiring" and they're not always joking. at least some of the employees there smile on their way into work. as far as knife carry: during the orientation at the V.A. i work at, the V.A. policeman (yes, they're real Fed police not just security walkabouts) mentioned no weapons of any kind. i asked about a pocketknife? NO, nothing at all, sharp, pointy, metal, non-metal, What about a kubotan? NO, nothing that can be turned into a weapon...then i held up a bic pen (the cheap pointy kinds) and said, then why are we all walking around with these things? no one was amused (sheeple again). they already had my fingerprints that morning, SSN, and then you sign an oath to uphold the laws of the U.S. and to not violate said laws or something like that...i left it all alone, cause i sure don't want anyone thinking that i may have a little neck knife or anything. that would be it for me. these guys ticket employees pulling into the parking lot all the time, and being on fed property the fines and points on your license are not worth it. being seen with a "weapon" will definitely ruin your career there! i feel for ya, guy! but you are better off and i'll wager (seeing you as being a spiritual person) that you can sleep better at night. someday, i'll be able to say the same..
 
Heck IV, I think there is a better place out there for you to lend your talents to. You're right, God's plan is not you working for the RR, no matter how enticing the bennies! Trade me something! Make us both feel better! III
 
4th--

My heart rejoices to see your faith.

Nothing happens by coincidence to those who are walking with the Lord (you all listening out there?)

I've gotten fired fron more than a few jobs, and everyone was a step up (no kidding!)

Keep praying brother, keep in the Word, and keep your Spyde Military in your right-hand pocket!

God bless

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Knives have edges; teeth are for saws!

John 14:6

 
Want some *maybe* stupid advice?

Sometimes when knife knuts lose their jobs, they start a custom knife making business! So spend some more time at home with the kids, buy a Burr King, live life at it's fullest!!!

Hmm, that probably didn't help
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, anyway, good luck!



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I need a bigger bucket.
 
Joel,

Maybe that's the very reason why the pay is tempting, and the benefits they offer sounds good.
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It's because they are having a hard time finding people who are even more stupid than they are..
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hehehe...
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Ask them something they don't know, and they'll take that against you like what happened. And they're right, you don't fit in.
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Anyway, not such a loss, if you ask me. I'm sure there's a lot of other, even greater opportunities, that awaits you.
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Stay cool.
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Dan
 
4th,

As someone once said: (William James, I think) "I don't expect everyone to like me, in fact I'ld think less of myself if some people did."

There are enough ignorant people we have to deal with, no sense getting up early every morning to go to them.

DaveJ
 
Hang in there! I used to travel around the globe installing equipment and the one thing that everyplace I worked remembered was the knives I carried, usually a butterfly knife. One place I found out years later used me as an example, they told the workers there that I was thrown out of the plant for using my knife there, which never happened, I did the job, finished and went home, nothing was ever even mentioned to me about the knife I had. But they, a supervisor, tried to scare those guys with that story. Found this out years later when some of the workers traveled to our plant for additional training, I set them straight!

But be of good cheer sir, as you noted in the verses God does have a plan, we might not know of what the outcome will be right now, so it can be frustrating to be sure!

G2
 
Thank you so much for your kindness.
It means alot to have support from people you have never met face to face!!!!
Thanks Again,
Mrs. 4th
 
Thank you so much for your kindness and words of encouragement. I am proud of the4th. He is a great husband and father!
Knife's are a part of our everyday life and it will stay that way.
Mrs. 4th
 
4th and Mrs 4th

God is always in control. Sometimes it looks as though we are on a run-away roller coaster. But God always has HIS BEST in mind for us. He will always give it to us in the most perfect timimg with just enough and never any more. Remember the mana. Just what is needed never more.

One of my favorite scenes in the movies is a granddaughter asking her grandmother's advice. The grandmother says to remember that life is like a carnival ride. It can be a roller coaster or, like some people would like, a merry-go-round. Some people have their life go up and down like a a roller coaster. Others are content to go 'round and 'round safely on the merry-go-round. Me, I'll take the roller coaster. It's much more fun.

Me too, as long as its God's roller coaster.

God bless

Dwight
 
First of all I think that you've made a serious violation of confidentiality regarding the disclosure of someone else owning firearms, much less class III weapons. Second, carrying a couple of sheath knives to work during your first week at a new job doesn't seem like a smart thing to do, for a number of reasons. One is that it's probably fair to say that it's a security violation at most companies, another is that it's probably fair to say that most people would be intimidated by such a display, especially by a new employee that no one knows. Another is because you've probably sensitized a group of people against knives, and I wouldn't be suprised if they add a question about interest in knives to interviews to make sure that they don't have to deal with any more knife nuts. A little bit of discretion would have gone a long ways.

 
Johno,
No names were mentioned. No company was mentioned. No confidentiality was breached.
I used to work at the hotel where we were training and knew the staff and management. They had no problems with what happened. Once again, I didn't TAKE the knives to work. They were brought to me on "neutral" ground. Company policy (which I adhered to after I found out about it) didn't apply anyway, we weren't on company property.
 
Johno, a little thought WOULD have gone a long way--but who should have thought more? Think about this a minute--do you really believe that it is wrong to wear the knives to work, or just that it will offend people who don't know any better?
I'm willing to bet you're saying the latter, which means if you really think about it, you're saying he's right, they're wrong, and yet HE is the one who should change his ways to accommodate their irrational fears. This kind of discretion will get you a certain distance with less trouble but the problem is that it emboldens hoplophobes and teaches them, wrongly, that they're in the right and can demand more and more of you. No thanks.

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All right, welcome to my "Kung Fu" academy!!!
Why did you go like this? (quote marks)
Because I'm not going to teach you little wussies "Kung Fu!" That's just what I told your parents so they'd send you here and I could teach you to KICK ASS!
 
Mr. & Mrs. 4th,

I really do believe "All things work together for good ...". Sometimes I find out right away why things happen the way they do, sometimes I find out much later, and I have a few that I'm sure won't be answered until it all becomes clear. Just remember that mustard seed. It doesn't takes much, even though it seems like a lot to us sometimes.

God bless.
 
4th - A few thoughts to share;

When you are dealing with fear, logic has no affect. People that fear catchng cold will run when you sneeze.

It took only three days to find out that you won't "fit in" there....cheap investment. "My momma taught me not to be some place I wasn't wanted".

God wants you to operate on the highest possible "awareness" plain regardless of the road travelled. "getting even" or "beating yourself up" lowers that level.

Regarding the letter to the "higher up"; "Never argue with a fool, onlookers can't tell which one is the fool".

I've been fired twice for "not fiting in". One with "genuine & honest form" cannot possibly "fit in" everywhere.

My wife & I began Spyderco because I couldn't get a good job and "fit in".

You've got health, and love and family with which to share life. Those are the reasons one "hustles one's acorns" in the first place. You also have an interest beyond watching TV.

Perhaps you can just write this experience down in the "lessons learned" chapter of your life.

sal
 
4th,
I don't know why they fired you. Other than they wanted to. Don't let it get you down though. I have had many disapointments in my life. I would not trade them though. My life now is beyond words. I would not be where I am, married to who I am, doing the job i am, if it were not for the disapointments that happened earlier in my life. Things can always get better. They will occasionally be worse. One thing is for cerain, they will never be the same. Enjoy the happy times. Know that the rough times will always come and go. The important part, is the going. They always go. When things are difficult I tell myself "This too shall pass". Sometimes not fitting in, is a good thing. You fit in here. You have friends here. You have a wife who cares. You have a child on the way, who will care. You may not have fit in at the new J O B. But you fit in where it matters most. Your family, your church, your friends (us included). I think if you add up the good in your life, it will far exceed the temporary disapointment of losing the chains that would be your railroad job.


one of at least 3500 of your friends,


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Winner of "Best Tactical Knife" at 1999 PKA show
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HI, the4th,

I work for Wal-Mart as well.I have been carrying knives to work for the year and a half I've been at this particular store.I carry my BM stryker to work daily.I even took my CS Vaquero Grande a couple of times.I always show my blades to some of the interested parties that work with me.I just whip my piece out and loudly proclaim "It's a utility knife", when one of the sheeple looks at me like I'm a psycho.Of course, the Wal-Mart that I work at kind of breaks the mold as far as the personalities that work there and it seems to be acceptable to be, "anti-sheeple".I think you got burned by that other company.
 
Once again, I am humbled and in awe of the outpouring of support from all of you.

Dad used to tell me that we got stuck with family, but we get to pick our friends. I don't think I could have picked a better bunch!

As far as looking into my own business....hmmmm.....I DO have a knife design in mind.

TTYL!
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Luke 22:36(b) and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one.

Jesus Christ to his Disciples - around 33 A.D.
 
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