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I sold mine after I met Chris Reeve in person ...

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Hmm, sounds like Chris shot himself in the foot by alienating his own customer. Though perhaps he merely disagreed with something you might have brought up about how you use your knives or perhaps your specific preference about knives? Sounds about the #1 reason why I might have any beef with anyone regarding knives. I have a tendency to berate those who use their knives in a manner which I see as abusive(cutting on a glass cutting board, cutting on ceramic plates, using a knife as a screwdriver, etc.).

Still, for me, it's like the whole drama fair with Mick Strider(or Burger) and his knives. For me, I'm less emotionally attached to the person who made the knife and would rather observe the knife itself. No offense to Phil Wilson who made a knife for me;). It's a damn good knife:thumbup:.

We'll never really know will we? :D
 
I was personally all but called a liar by the woman I spoke to (not Heather) at CRK on the phone. It came from her boss as she put it that my issued would not happen with CRK.

I'm not trolling either. Just like the OP is not. Some of us have received what should be called horrible service from CRK. I won't kiss anyone's butt or make excuses and will defend a brand that I have gotten good service from. With that, I will also call out those that have given me bad service.

David
 
I spoke with Mr. Reeve once. I'll give all of the details so as not to be accused of trolling. For those who do not like to read, it is sufficient to say my experience is a bit like cktenders' and ssblood's.

My first NIB Sebenza (second total) came so tight it literally couldn't be opened one handed, and it was very hard two handed. I took it apart, cleaned it, and reassembled it, to make sure everything was put together correct, and there was no change. So, I figured it just needed to be worked in and opened and closed it awhile, and it slowly got a bit better. After awhile, I took it apart again to clean it and noticed the lock bar was dented (which didn't change the lockup--still at 50% to this day). I posted in the CRK subsection of the forum, and no one thought it looked right, so I emailed CRK. I received an email right away saying to call and ask for Mr. Reeve directly the next day, which I did.

I took two things from the conversation. First, he is very confident in his knowledge about his knives. You also can see that confidence in most of his posts. Some, clearly, would call it cockiness. From the pictures I had posted to the forum, he was sure it was from excessive use (opening and closing). He said it resembled Sebenzas opened and closed around 20,000 times. I tried to explain I had only had it three weeks, which makes a fraction of that figure all that would be possible, and about its problem out of the box, but the conversation continued to return to excessive use as the culprit. It became clear that there was no use continuing to find the reason behind it because he was sure he knew what it was.

Second, he made sure I understood any problems would be covered under their warranty. He told me to send it in, despite his belief that it was excessive use. It was clear that no matter what he thought, it would be covered.

At the time, and still to this day, I'm not really sure to take from the conversation. On one hand, I would not call it a pleasant experience. I felt like I was pleading my case the whole time since he kept saying I was to blame through excessive use. I had called just to find out if it was something to worry about, and if so, to figure out the cause and didn't get anything close to an answer. I do not like arguing, but the direction of the conversation made it feel like one. Instead of working together to find out the problem, we were at odds. I'll say it again; it wasn't pleasant.

On the other hand, it was a unique experience to speak with the namesake of a company within 24 hours of emailing their support just to find out if I had a problem. It did not change the lock up or anything, and I had really posted the initial thread on the forum expecting a "yeah, that's normal, and that's a question asked a million times by over-worried new CRK owners" :p, so to speak with him directly was a bit of a shock. Furthermore, even though he clearly thought I was to blame, it was covered under warranty.

edit: And going back to the original topic (:p), I plan to sell of that Sebenza because of the whole situation surrounding it.
 
I was personally all but called a liar by the woman I spoke to (not Heather) at CRK on the phone. It came from her boss as she put it that my issued would not happen with CRK.

I'm not trolling either. Just like the OP is not. Some of us have received what should be called horrible service from CRK. I won't kiss anyone's butt or make excuses and will defend a brand that I have gotten good service from. With that, I will also call out those that have given me bad service.

David

Of course you're not because you are saying what your issue was/is. In fact I remember your thread where you actually posted pictures of what you were upset about. So I don't think anyone in their right mind could call you a troll. It is pretty clear you got substandard service from CRK.

The OP wasn't trolling as he simply asked "why are there so many sebenzas for sale"?
 
Got the OP confused with the other poster. The problem I had just killed my enthusiasm. I've wanted a CRK knife since the day I discovered them over 10 years ago. It still wasn't as easy for me to just dump the knife and move one because of how much I like the knife. I am still wary that if I had a real warranty issue if I would be told it was from abuse or misuse.
 
Well yes to me it looks like trolling. You may not have meant it to be but when you say something inflammatory without saying what it is, even after being asked, it looks like you are taking a shot. Did he kick your dog or insult your wife or something?

I don't know Chris Reeve from the man on the moon but you made a harsh statement against him on a public forum and I do think you should explain it. If you don't like the guy that is cool. Not everyone can like everyone. It sounds like it's possible he didn't like you either. I'm sure he loves you now :D

The OP was asking why so many Sebenzas are for sale. I don't know the answer to the question. Do you think it is because people don't like Chris Reeve?

It is a reasonable question. I suppose there as many reasons why Sebenzas are for sale as there are Sebenzas for sale. Why is anything for sale? They want to use the money for something else? I don't know.

But I do think it unfair to lay something like that out there and not explain it. It wouldn't be fair if someone did it to you either. You want people to think the worst and you have some motivation for doing so. I don't know what that is either. If you told us we would know and be able to make up our own minds. But for whatever reason you don't want that.

So trolling is not an unfair opinion with what you have given us.

I am not here to spread gossip or hurt his reputation. I answered the op's question by saying "I sold mine for x,y,z reasons.". You are REALLY starting to be an asshole to me for no reason, as your jokes are NOT funny. I have not told the story publicly because it DOES NOT matter. His attitude does. And its not a good attitude. I will pm you the condensed version if you will stop attacking me.
 
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Well yes to me it looks like trolling. You may not have meant it to be but when you say something inflammatory without saying what it is, even after being asked, it looks like you are taking a shot. Did he kick your dog or insult your wife or something?

I don't know Chris Reeve from the man on the moon but you made a harsh statement against him on a public forum and I do think you should explain it. If you don't like the guy that is cool. Not everyone can like everyone. It sounds like it's possible he didn't like you either. I'm sure he loves you now :D

The OP was asking why so many Sebenzas are for sale. I don't know the answer to the question. Do you think it is because people don't like Chris Reeve?

It is a reasonable question. I suppose there as many reasons why Sebenzas are for sale as there are Sebenzas for sale. Why is anything for sale? They want to use the money for something else? I don't know.

But I do think it unfair to lay something like that out there and not explain it. It wouldn't be fair if someone did it to you either. You want people to think the worst and you have some motivation for doing so. I don't know what that is either. If you told us we would know and be able to make up our own minds. But for whatever reason you don't want that.

So trolling is not an unfair opinion with what you have given us.

Why does it really matter why he doesn't like the man? That's his reason... Ultimately the only reason one could want for knowing the specifics of it is A) To argue it or B) See if they agree themselves. Personally I think that this one guy's personal experience with the man isn't even enough to make the call on B, so there's really no point.

I mean, what if it turns out that he just doesn't like Chris Reeve? Maybe the guy's personality rubs him the wrong way...

If he were a troll he would have put out all sorts of accusations and tried to rabble rouse people into a response. Sorry man, but I think wanting a reason for why this guy doesn't like Chris Reeve so much is more your problem than his.
 
i've had the pleasure of meeting Chris Reeve. i dont have a problem with him. that said, i can understand why people may not like him. he speaks his mind and doesnt hold anything back.
 
I met a very famous rock star once. He was an asshole but I didn't stop listening to his music.
 
I too had a terrible experience with CRK... I must admit it before the shame kills me.

I was looking to buy a CRK Sebenza 21, I selected the large and added it to the cart.
To my surprise the total was $385! I was outraged, how could it be so expensive. Then I discovered the conspiracy founded over 20 years ago.. Chris Reeves must have calculated all of the variable surrounding my life, planted minions to misguide me, calculated my financial situation as well as gathered data points to form a algorithm to predict my future financial success, as well as predict my attitude 2 years after I was born :eek: and deduced that the price point of $385 would be too high for to me buy at the moment this post was made.

Thus in essence Chris Reeves himself targeted ME unworthy of his products and conspired against me to make sure I could not afford it. :rolleyes:

Oh the tragedy.


I apologize for the idiotic post, but can we get back to the topic at hand. Is the economy really that bad people are selling their beloved Sebenzas?
 
To be honest I would rather not get involved in an argument as it seems everyone is ready to get defensive. His wife and son are very nice and accommodating. Thats is the extent of the good experience i had.

I don't understand why you would make a statement like this without giving an explanation. The comment already implies that there is something negative about Chris Reeve, so I don't think it would be "hurting his reputation" anymore if you just told us the specifics. In fact, I think it would be better for his reputation if you told us because mystery tends to cause people to assume the worst.

For what it's worth, I watched a documentary on Chris Reeve knives called "The Exquisite Blade", and he seemed like an ok guy.

But seriously, no one is attacking you for not liking Chris Reeve, what people have a problem with is you going "Oh I don't like Chris Reeve I don't want his name on any of my knives" and then not giving us further info.
 
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Why does it really matter why he doesn't like the man? That's his reason... Ultimately the only reason one could want for knowing the specifics of it is A) To argue it or B) See if they agree themselves. Personally I think that this one guy's personal experience with the man isn't even enough to make the call on B, so there's really no point.

I mean, what if it turns out that he just doesn't like Chris Reeve? Maybe the guy's personality rubs him the wrong way...

If he were a troll he would have put out all sorts of accusations and tried to rabble rouse people into a response. Sorry man, but I think wanting a reason for why this guy doesn't like Chris Reeve so much is more your problem than his.

I take it you didn't get the PM :D
 
I am not here to spread gossip or hurt his reputation. I answered the op's question by saying "I sold mine for x,y,z reasons.". You are REALLY starting to be an asshole to me for no reason, as your jokes are NOT funny. I have not told the story publicly because it DOES NOT matter. His attitude does. And its not a good attitude. I will pm you the condensed version if you will stop attacking me.

I'm sorry if you thought I was attacking you. I just thought (and still do) the way you were laying it out there was childlike. But you cleared that up in your PM. I don't know what to say. I don't know Chris Reeve, maybe he doesn't care for men that act like little girls. I really don't know.

In all my years in the Navy I don't believe anyone ever called me an asshole. Words hurt dude words hurt :D

Seriously I do hope things get better for you. But in the odd chance they don't could you PM me about it?
 
I hear he can get pretty defensive, but that really comes from total belief in the products he makes and his belief that they make the best products out there.

It's natural really and it could be taken the wrong way I suppose depending on what and how he says what he says.

I haven't had any one on one dealings with him personally though.
 
laying it out there was childlike....I don't know Chris Reeve, maybe he doesn't care for men that act like little girls.

Alright, I am over it. Your are an internet bully, and Navy or not you aren't "more man than me" or whatever it is you think. Get your head out of your ass. You two would get along, you both think you are better than everyone else. I am reporting you to a moderator now. I am a paying member here and will not be harassed.
 
I hear he can get pretty defensive, but that really comes from total belief in the products he makes and his belief that they make the best products out there.

It's natural really and it could be taken the wrong way I suppose depending on what and how he says what he says.

I haven't had any one on one dealings with him personally though.

I can see that..
 
Alright, I am over it. Your are an internet bully, and Navy or not you aren't "more man than me" or whatever it is you think. Get your head out of your ass. You two would get along, you both think you are better than everyone else. I am reporting you to a moderator now. I am a paying member here and will not be harassed.
Tuf, please tell him you are not harrassing him. Ck, it is easy to be a bully over the net, who the F cares..You probably have some hotass Bxxxx lusting over you and your knives, have an awesome family, and an untouchable career..So I am envious over that...Unless Tuf he is pm'ing you stupid shit, it is all fun and games.. I am good at a few things, and if someone gave me their negative opinion on what I do best/how i feed my family, I would get offensive also..You have your right to your opinion, as do fellow forum members..Please do not let this put a bad taste in your mouth, CRK makes excellent PRODUCTION knives.. I am sure he was having a bad day like we always do..
 
Yea BF has had several forums go to the graveyard because people just love the drama and can't wait to give their pointless little opinion on whatever it is they would like to talk about and everything just snowballs from there. That's why I don't post much around here, there's a lot of self important ass-hats who doesn't actually contribute anything to a conversation besides drama and empty posts and thought. I don't blame your for saying what the problem was with CR, on a good day half the people would read it, nod, and go about their day, other half would turn it into a gripe fest. Then sooner or later CR will be in here giving out personal info about your wife and threatening your family like good ole' RYP. Just my "humble opinion" if you will...
 
Argue all you please, gentlemen, but without the personal insults. If I find them continuing when I return, I may have to take more individual action.

I left the original thread in General Knife Discussion but moved these posts to the Chris Reeve Knives forum.
 
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