"Idaho" Stamping Ideas

I like Lunde`s 1st draft. Misterjuiceman`s draft isn`t bad either, but I think it would have to say "Idaho Made" somewhere too. I mean Idaho`s outline probably isn`t that well known to most people, plus Mr. Reeve pointed out that the "Idaho Made" stamp won`t go away.

All in all I think that most of these drafts look much better than the original one. Just more subtle and better placed IMHO.
 
akubra said:
I like Lunde`s 1st draft. Misterjuiceman`s draft isn`t bad either, but I think it would have to say "Idaho Made" somewhere too. I mean Idaho`s outline probably isn`t that well known to most people, plus Mr. Reeve pointed out that the "Idaho Made" stamp won`t go away.

All in all I think that most of these drafts look much better than the original one. Just more subtle and better placed IMHO.
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yeah IDK, it didn't come out exactly as I envisioned it. maybe swap the state of Idaho with an outline of the United States. or pull the CRK logo off from the handle, laser/etch it onto the blade, and then put Idaho Made in small print under it. the blade won't be sterile anymore, but the handle will be.
 
Here's my stamp location preference. You can't see it, but it's inside the handle slab...:D

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misterjuiceman said:
That's a B and an 05, I think. The B means the titanium slab was made in the second trimester of the year (I believe), and then you were right for the year. The birthdate could be as much as a year after the year on the inside of the slab.
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Upon further inspection, one scale is stamped "B 05" and the other is "C 05", so I guess she was made from different parts from that year.

Cool.
 
Brennanscott said:
Upon further inspection, one scale is stamped "B 05" and the other is "C 05", so I guess she was made from different parts from that year.

Cool.
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Been out camping this weekend, so I missed most of the discussion. FWIW, the date stamps on the inside of the handle slabs only refer to the year and quarterly period (A=Jan-Mar, B=Apr-Jun, etc.) that the slabs were finished. Usually the two slabs match, but that's not always the case especially with the Unique Graphic Sebenza's. In any event, these dates don't reflect the actual date of final knife assembly, which may be months later. In earlier days, CR kept a buffer stock of finished slabs in 5-gallon buckets around the shop until they were ready for final assembly.

Another note - there are some cases where the front (non-locking) slabs have been exchanged between knives. This doesn't affect their functionality as long as the style is the same (Regular, 21, or Classic), but might be a cause for mismatched date stamps on the slabs.

Back on topic - with Chris making it clear that the location of the "Idaho Made" stamp is up for discussion, I think that this ongoing conversation of ideas is great. Personally I don't care for it at all, but if it has to be there the least objectionable locations for me would be either one similar to Adamar's last picture (bottom corner) or on the locktab (Lunde's second picture). An outline of the state wouldn't be too bad, but I'd locate it below the pivot as a direct mirror image of misterjuiceman's idea.

Because he wants to make a visible statement with this, I really can't see Mr. Reeve even considering hiding the engraving inside the slabs.
 
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I personally would like to see it engraved on the lock bar. I think it would be a classy touch there, MHO though. That way you it would still be on the outside of the knife, but if you had clip it wouldn't be that noticable, but yet would draw attention to it to the common onlookers of the knife (I know everyone is who is in my office always wants to check out my CRK's).
 
I think it would actually look cool if he could put the Idaho Made on the side of the Ti slab, clip end right by the lanyard hole on the side of the slab though.
 
I still think it should go inside the handle. If it's located anywhere near the outer edge of the Ti slab, it will probably be easily seen with a slight tilt when the blade is open.

And I think more people might prefer 'IDAHO USA' than 'IDAHO MADE'?

While most knives nowadays do have a whole bunch of stuff written all over the place, I think it's particularly inappropriate on the Sebenza because many people see it as a piece of jewellery and/or artwork as much as it is a functional tool.

Like a ring, for the sake of aesthetics, I think it should be hidden from plain view.
 
I think Adamar's third picture is just about perfect. It actually is an enhancement to the overall look rather than a detraction IMHO.

Only as 100 eye's said, I think Idaho, USA would be much more tasteful and appropriate.
 
I think those that want it on the inside of the slab(scale) are just kidding themselves. He is not going to make this type of statement of pride (Idaho Made) and then hide it. He seems set on making the statement, so the most you can hope for is a little less in your face. He may not change it at all. From what I read- he was just willing to consider a change.

Chris's statement:
"I apologize if I offended anyone – that was not my intent.

Chris Reeve Knives is, and always has been, a different company. When I introduced the Sebenza in 1988 while we were still in South Africa, I was told by some people that the mechanism was great but the knife was ugly. But it broke new ground; we have won many awards because it grew on people and more and more people liked it.

I am the one who is responsible for the wording and the placement. I did it to be different and to be noticeable because (1) I am proud that our knives are made, not only in the United States but in the beautiful State of Idaho and (2) we are one of the few knife companies left that are completely USA made, and with US materials.

We have produced a couple hundred handles in various models that need to be assembled and sold. Suggestions of where “Idaho Made” should be positioned will be considered. It is important that this should be engraved to safeguard the integrity of your knives going forward. There are many Chinese knockoffs, the quality of which is improving all the time.

We appreciate your interest in our knives but you must realize that we are human too!

Chris "
 
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Peter Hartwig said:
I think those that want it on the inside of the slab(scale) are just kidding themselves....

"It is important that this should be engraved to safeguard the integrity of your knives going forward. There are many Chinese knockoffs, the quality of which is improving all the time. Chris "
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As Mr. Reeve stated, the "important" reason, which seems to be the primary reason, for the stamp is to safeguard against Chinese knockoffs. If this is true, then the stamp's location shouldn't matter, even if it is on the inside of the handle.
 
TAH said:
As Mr. Reeve stated, the "important" reason, which seems to be the primary reason, for the stamp is to safeguard against Chinese knockoffs. If this is true, then the stamp's location shouldn't matter, even if it is on the inside of the handle.
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I'm confused by those who say that you can safeguard against counterfits with the branding. Wont they just include it on the knockoffs?

Is this a type of engraving that they can't yet reproduce? I'm not being sarcastic I'm asking a serious question.
 
chris can put it wherever he wants if he leaves us the option of ordering unmarked knives directly from the shop. barring that option, I really can't say where he should put the stamp outside of W&C.
 
BP Green said:
I'm confused by those who say that you can safeguard against counterfits with the branding. Wont they just include it on the knockoffs?

Is this a type of engraving that they can't yet reproduce? I'm not being sarcastic I'm asking a serious question.
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I feel like the quality of the Sebenza is the main thing that can't be replicated--if these chinese counterfeits are capable of matching this quality, and can offer it at a cheaper price than CRK, then I think we have a problem. engravings won't stop counterfeiters.
 
Everyone:

The purpose of this thread is to brainstorm alternative “Idaho Made” stamping locations and styles. Based on Chris Reeve’s posting, the “Idaho Made” stamping is here to stay and will be on the outside of his knives, but he may be willing to look at changes to the current design.

Please do not discuss the merits of the stamping or the purpose of the stamping. This has been done and can be done in other threads.

This thread is to post your ideas and/or comment on which designs you like the best.

Thanks.
 
Adamar said:
Everyone:

Based on Chris Reeve’s posting, the “Idaho Made” stamping is here to stay and will be on the outside of his knives, but he may be willing to look at changes to the current design.
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I am not so sure this is true. I don't see any reference to it needing to be on the outside in any of the posts from Chris.

I would agree it must be visible without taking the knife apart, but I don't see why engraving it on the inside where it still can be easily seen is out of the question at all.

Look at the inside portions of the handle slabs and you can see how engraving in there--if near the edge and done the right way--could very easily be seen from certain angles. Plus, it would not upset the overall look of the knife as much when viewing it straight on--which would address the main complaint that people seem to have with the engraving as it stands now.
 
Per Chris Reeve quote, "I did it to be different and to be noticeable." To me, this means the outside.

Anyways, the inside idea has already been mentioned. If you have a new idea, please post it.




Bucky said:
I am not so sure this is true. I don't see any reference to it needing to be on the outside in any of the posts from Chris.

I would agree it must be visible without taking the knife apart, but I don't see why engraving it on the inside where it still can be easily seen is out of the question at all.

Look at the inside portions of the handle slabs and you can see how engraving in there--if near the edge and done the right way--could very easily be seen from certain angles. Plus, it would not upset the overall look of the knife as much when viewing it straight on--which would address the main complaint that people seem to have with the engraving as it stands now.
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