Idea Push, Basic Kukri

They both sound like cool projects but I think they're different animals. I support the 13olo too but I think these would be different beasties with their own unique strengths and weaknesses. I'd argue a kukri actually does benefit from a lighter handle and that is more akin to the traditional weight distribution and advantage of the design. The way a kukri is shaped shouldn't exhaust your wrist and arm if you're using it like a kukri and not a long straight bladed knife. Nothing at all wrong with a straight blade but they do handle differently than a kukri. Since Busse doesn't provide sheathes, that's a null point. I have no idea about the production or materials costs and I leave that up to big boss's opinion.
 
And no swedge. The swedge on my Kabar serves no purpose but chewing up perfectly good baton staubs.
 
Khukri all the way..... .25 Bolo??? No longer a machete....and besides a Basic Zilla would more than likely bear the KZ2 blade at a reduced size and still be a better chopper than a Basic Bolo....

I don't think the consensus is going for .25" on the B13. Seems like more people want to keep it at or under .20" myself included. Regardless, we aren't going for a machete. I don't think most of us live in the jungle.

If a Khuk is a better chopper, why doesn't everyone use one in blade sports? I've have a good handful of Khuks and I have to disagree. For weight to chopping ability, I haven't found anything that beats the 1311. Sure there are a few knives that edge it out in pure chopping performance but at a huge sacrifice of weight. Khuks might have stick tangs traditionally but check out the weight on them. I've seen them as fat as .50". Plus Khuks arent as well adapted to simple chores like kitchen prep. Yeah you might see some Nepalese guy doing some pretty awesome thinks with a Khuk but let's keep in mind how early they started using one. Khuks are fun and all but in most of our hands, a B-13 would be more useful.

Now I'm not saying I wouldn't jump at the chance for a B-Khuk, but I don't think it would be more practical.

Bring on the B-Khuk (but not before the B13).
 
I don't think the consensus is going for .25" on the B13. Seems like more people want to keep it at or under .20" myself included. Regardless, we aren't going for a machete. I don't think most of us live in the jungle.

If a Khuk is a better chopper, why doesn't everyone use one in blade sports? I've have a good handful of Khuks and I have to disagree. For weight to chopping ability, I haven't found anything that beats the 1311. Sure there are a few knives that edge it out in pure chopping performance but at a huge sacrifice of weight. Khuks might have stick tangs traditionally but check out the weight on them. I've seen them as fat as .50". Plus Khuks arent as well adapted to simple chores like kitchen prep. Yeah you might see some Nepalese guy doing some pretty awesome thinks with a Khuk but let's keep in mind how early they started using one. Khuks are fun and all but in most of our hands, a B-13 would be more useful.

Now I'm not saying I wouldn't jump at the chance for a B-Khuk, but I don't think it would be more practical.

Bring on the B-Khuk (but not before the B13).
Blade sports is a American sport with specific rules for the configuration of the blade. Would be like using a open SV infinity race pistol at a IDPA match of course he will be DQ'd and will be faster than the competition. I don't think you would use a blade sports chopper to decapitate a bull but a Khukri can and it's done at a festival in Nepal.
So if you tailor a sport to a specific individual style yes who ever meets that niche style will be best. Khukris come in all shapes and sizes so why not let us have it.
Basic Zilla please
 
I'm not so sure that the rules dictated the blade before the blade dictated the rules.

Not trying to detract from the thread too much though. I'd love to see a B-Khuk some day. I just never fell in love with my TTKZ so I had to set it free. I think the Res-C might fix that.
 
The basic 13 is everywhere except in my hands or the boss mans mind




I think what he meant was that the same people bitching about others talking about something other than the B13 on the B13 thread are the ones talking about something other than the basic khuk.
 
I think what he meant was that the same people bitching about others talking about something other than the B13 on the B13 thread are the ones talking about something other than the basic khuk.
Honestly, I wouldnt know about that. I haven't been to the B13 thread because...(drumroll)..................I don't want one. I just figure, they have their wish list, we have ours, and I'm not going to be convinced to buy a machete when what I want is a kukri.
 
Honestly, I wouldnt know about that. I haven't been to the B13 thread because...(drumroll)..................I don't want one. I just figure, they have their wish list, we have ours, and I'm not going to be convinced to buy a machete when what I want is a kukri.

Thank you! Now where is that Kukri's and cream ice cream I've been looking for???
We're hungry Boss man!
 
For the record, my issue with off topic discussion in the B13 thread was about converting a high utility chopper into a weapon with intent to harm people making the thread look bad. In this thread, I wasn't talking about something other than a basic khukri so much as explaining where going down that road wound up becoming the compromise of a plain B13 and a Khukri into the Bolo13. If you search back years ago many of us asked for a res-c khuk (search: Basic Zilla, Basilla, Bazilla, khukrat, dogzilla) etc on this very forum (and the swamp) without even a blip of recognition. So this is my attempt at giving you honest feedback as to what might realistically be achievable with a compromise of khukri lovers wants (I have two TTKZ'z, I like khuks just fine) vs analyzing Busse production history indications with the basic handle lead to a compromise in design that became the B13/Bolo13 idea. Plain and simple, is there even one res-c handled design that is wider than 2.5" which a khukri requires that has ever been produced? :confused: So not only are we asking for a model Jerry has not yet shown interest in producing via mention, prototype or hints just like the Bolo13, but also coming up with a production method that he has never used. I wish it were otherwise and would love to be shown to be wrong, :) but the straight stock design history with Basic handles seems like a lock. ;) I am still talking about the Basilla and would love to see one someday too, just perhaps saying what is true at this time about it makes it less palatable.

Also for the record, since it is erroneously mentioned yet again in this thread, the B13/Bolo13 is NEITHER a .25" thick design NOR is it a machete, it is based off of the extremely well performing 1311 design to be a lightweight to high performance ratio chopper that could function as a machete when needed to but keep your belt light. I am one of the first to be excited about a Basilla, or a Khukrat, or even a Dogzilla, but if people could come together to work for one common goal that meets with success than it would be easier to try for the next one. Running competing threads for multiple similar designs over and over just makes us look disorganized like a bunch of kids all begging for a different toy when daddy hasn't even said one could be had. If all the kids agree on one common goal, he will be much easier to convince to at least ponder granting the wish. I don't know about the rest of you, but I would much prefer the idea of actually getting something physically in our hands as we can't chop anything with 10 different dreams that all sound great but never come to fruition. We may hit multiple thousands of posts in the B13 thread and never get recognition either or we may be able to get a custom group order, or an actual production run, but all we can do is try and see what happens. Teamwork will go way further than divide and conquer. With that said, we do all have different tastes, though some of us appreciate many flavors of ice cream, so I will not mention the B13/Bolo13 again in this thread unless to specifically reply to a question/comment directed at me. I'll leave that up to you guys as to how you approach it. :)

A ~10" crescent/khukri blade in 5/16" full flat grind with res-c handle does sound very interesting and I hope we see one someday! :D INFI Basilla or Bazilla, maybe just what res-C needs is a C shaped blade! :p
 
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