Ideas for a Military 2 (M2)

Handwrecker said:
I agree that the comp lock is great. But with gloves on (or even without) the Military still feels much more intuitive and easy to manipulate. I don't even like Emerson knives, but they're widely regarded as very tough and hard use. Oh wait, a liner lock out of a material softer than steel? Haven't heard many gripes with that. I've beaten the tar out of my Military for the last year, and I'm just not seeing these issues in this thread.
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Some years back I swore off liner locks after having a couple of CRKT's fail on me. I took me a long time to build up the courage to buy a Millie (beaten up 2 hand 440V SE). At first It scared the crap out me. Lightweight, some flex in the handle and sloppy lock up. After a tweak of the eccentric pivot to get the lock up back to tolerance I began testing it out.... now three or four years later being carried of every day it's still taking any thing I can through at it. I cant comment on reliability the later models as I dont own any apart from the RIL Ti M4, my other Miliies are all oldies.

Bo
 
bodankers said:
No worries, pins being called screws being called pins started to confuse myself. ;)
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I'm surprised you decipher my lousy caveman english at all because half the time even I can't tell what I'm saying; some words are just for show and things I picked upon tv. ;):jerkit: Rather you than me though.:D

bodankers said:
That response from joyce was here http://www.spyderco.com/forums/showthread.php?t=36934&highlight=eccentric+pivot

Bo
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Thanks. :thumbup:

"Eccentric pivots were used primarily on the 440V C36's (2000-2002 IIRC). It was a 12 sided egg-shaped pivot pin that allowed for adjustment over the life of the liner lock."

Tbh; I haven't had one of those so now I'm only more confused as to why the QC would drop all of a sudden. Either I'm on a incredibly unlucky lemon trend or something else must have happened at Golden or with the knife around 2008 for it to change so drastically. :confused:

Weird.
 
Even If you have never had a liner lock fail on you, there are better options out there. The Bolt action lock is great and can be used with gloves on very easily. The BB lock, which is my favorite locking mechanism is a little difficult to use with thick gloves on but certainly doable. And basically, If im wearing thick gloves, Im not going to be using a folder. Thats what fixed blades are meant for.

I think sal has decided that the Stop lock is what is going to be used. I have never seen it and don't know how it works but I trust Sal.

For me, the liner lock just doesn't cut it. Its slow, can be accidentally disengaged, and isnt even all that easy to operate.
 
I'd love:
- Deep carry clip
- High wearing steel that gets razor sharp (M390 comes to mind, I have a tough time getting the S90V version as sharp as my M390 blades)
- A thicker Liner Lock
- Maybe adjust the grind to make the tip a bit less fragile.
 
I thought the Knifeworks framelock M4 was a kind of Military II. It's an awesome knife. I have no problem with the Military's liner lock or frame lock, but I do like axis locks better. What I really appreciate about the Military is its pointy, thin, flat-ground blade. What would really fill my sails is for Spyderco to issue sprint-run Militaries in every steel that the mules have come out in.
 
We're talking about changes to one of the most popular and loved Spydies of all time. It is like messing with perfection. Perhaps small modifications like the Para 2 would work, that is larger lanyard tube and choil would be nice. My hope is that the Millie doesn't gain weight and the ergos remain the same.
 
Haven't heard much about the stop lock lately. For those that never heard of it, it's a new and as of yet unused spyderco original lock. On the patent diagrams it was mounted in a Military, so there was a rumor a while back that it would be debut in the "Military 2". Would be interested to hear if they're still working on that lock or if it's hit a brick wall somewhere in the implementation stage.
 
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