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Wow didn't know this place was so censored. That's sad.
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Wow didn't know this place was so censored. That's sad.
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At the risk of being censored again......I like my flippers to flip. I have two hinderers and although I LOVE the design, I can't stand the mechanics. I'm obviously not the first person to say this though.
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Rick has said on many occasions that he doesn't make flipper knives, he makes knives with a flipper for another method of deploying the blade. He builds a work knife. Bearings in a folding knife pivot are , in my opinion, prone to collecting crud. You can bitch and cry all you want but it won't change a thing.
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Well then why won't my 24 open with the thumb studs?
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^^^User error is my guess 
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Funny. But no. Plenty of high end knives. Plenty of flippers. Plenty of experience. I love you fanboys that think nothing your brand does can be flawed. I am a huge Busse fan yet i know they aren't perfect. At least they don't delete comments. Or entire posts for that matter like someone did with LonnyRS's post. I'm not trying to derail this thread and I know where this is going so I'll censor myself as far as flipper comments.
Still wish hinderer would do IKBS. I know someone has modded at least one XM to have it.
Still wish hinderer would do IKBS. I know someone has modded at least one XM to have it.
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Using the term "fanboy" isn't going to win you any friends. I like my XMs, a lot. Do I revere everything Rick puts out? Nope. But, I also don't come on his page and crap on something I don't care for.
That said, I own IKBS flippers. I play with them, as in I treat them like cool toys because they are fun to flip. I carry my XMs to use. But, I also enjoy flipping them because, if you take the time to learn, they flip just as well - without relying on bearings.
Makes me wonder why you are so insistent that Hinderers incorporate a IKBS. That the XM doesn't have it doesn't make it "flawed", rather the XM is the way it is meant to be.
Back to the topic - I'd love to see the RHK horse head logo on a milled AR lower.
Hammer already covered it, but IKBS isn't likely to happen on the XM line, it goes completely against the original design of that knife. I have handled some IKBS equipped knives, the concept is pretty neat but I think of it more as a novelty for those obsessed with "flipping" and not really a feature that a knife needs to work well as a cutting tool.
I have no issues deploying an XM using either the flipper or thumbstuds, I carry a 3" XM daily and can easily deploy it with the thumbstuds (and the 3.5" and 4" are easier still to deploy). I couldn't do it very well the first time I handled an XM (either thumbstud or flipper use) but I quickly learned. A stronger detent may benefit those who like to use the flipper for deployment at the detriment of those who want to use the thumbstud or inertia opening. Rick and Rick Hinderer Knives feel that the detent is a happy medium for all three methods but alas, it is like politics, you'll never make everyone happy.
There is a right way to say things, and a wrong way. Then there is beating a dead horse which happens all too often in these forums, moderators step in to try to keep things from getting too off track. Don't worry too much about it, it isn't personal, we are guests in their paid forum, if I have to take my shoes off at the door, I will.
I have no issues deploying an XM using either the flipper or thumbstuds, I carry a 3" XM daily and can easily deploy it with the thumbstuds (and the 3.5" and 4" are easier still to deploy). I couldn't do it very well the first time I handled an XM (either thumbstud or flipper use) but I quickly learned. A stronger detent may benefit those who like to use the flipper for deployment at the detriment of those who want to use the thumbstud or inertia opening. Rick and Rick Hinderer Knives feel that the detent is a happy medium for all three methods but alas, it is like politics, you'll never make everyone happy.
There is a right way to say things, and a wrong way. Then there is beating a dead horse which happens all too often in these forums, moderators step in to try to keep things from getting too off track. Don't worry too much about it, it isn't personal, we are guests in their paid forum, if I have to take my shoes off at the door, I will.
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Oh darn.
Who said I don't care for them? I own 2. You don't see them posted in the exchange for a reason. (I'm censoring flipper comments I want to make)
(Not censoring flipper comments here since you are bringing it up again). IKBS isn't the only way to get a knife to flip well. It has nothing to do with learning. Don't try the user error angle. I know how to use flippers and I CAN get my Hinderers to flip. They just don't flip the way I think a flipper should. With or without IKBS. And I'm sure you know I am far from alone in this belief. Go watch some Jim Skelton videos if you don't believe me.
I'm not insistant. I mentioned it and got flamed for it by all the Hinderer fanboys. Don't blow things out of proportion. All I am saying is I wish my 2 flipped better. The fact that you guys get so defensive and I get censored (along with at least 1 other person) is pathetic. You don't have to agree with me and I don't have to agree with you. As a paying active member I find it pretty sad to have my innocent comments deleted. What does that say about letting the product speak for itself? Not much.
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Yeah, I'm not heartbroken either.
I saw the video you are referring to - Skelton is also an idiot. Having an internet blog or youtube channel doesn't bestow credibility.
Nothing is getting blown of proportion and I'm not defensive - simply telling you what I think of your "opinion". The product does speak for itself. As does the demand for said product.
The detent can vary some from XM to XM as a result of the machining process. Adjusting the lockbar tension can help some but only so much. I personally haven't seen much variance in the ones I have handled but I know there can be some.
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The thread will be relocked after I say what needs to be said.
The comments were deleted ( Not Censored, look up the real meaning) because they were Rude, inappropriate and not germane to the thread topic. I could have just as easily drawn attention to them and issued a Troll infraction but chose to quietly make them go away in the hopes that the posters would realize the follie and act appropriately but, No further attention had to be drawn adding insult to injury.
I am reminded of the brut that shows up to a neighborhood party in which everyone is enjoying a good time but there is felt the need by some to issue unwanted and unwarranted criticisms to the Host and Hostess that their Food selection and preparation is lacking.
Really?
Then don't stay. Go.
This Forum IS RHK's house and it resides within Kevin's neighborhood.
Adding further insult the typical forum B.S. vernacular gets bantied about "Fanboy' 'Censorship" blah blah blah.
Don't like the knife or how it functions? Go somewhere else and "share" your experience and opinion - not welcome here.
Need help? Need information? Want to have fun in a civil manner? - No problem.
Want to stir up crap or troll? No Thank you.
Mike summed it up. Rick makes hard use knives for Men doing important work. They have flippers, they aren't flippers. They aren't toys of pleasure they are tools meant for work that give some of us pleasure and pride by owning and using them - that doesn't make us "fanboys". It makes us guys who see things for what they are and appreciate it and the people that make the tools.
Anybody has a problem - email or PM me.
Now the thread is CLOSED.
The comments were deleted ( Not Censored, look up the real meaning) because they were Rude, inappropriate and not germane to the thread topic. I could have just as easily drawn attention to them and issued a Troll infraction but chose to quietly make them go away in the hopes that the posters would realize the follie and act appropriately but, No further attention had to be drawn adding insult to injury.
I am reminded of the brut that shows up to a neighborhood party in which everyone is enjoying a good time but there is felt the need by some to issue unwanted and unwarranted criticisms to the Host and Hostess that their Food selection and preparation is lacking.
Really?
Then don't stay. Go.
This Forum IS RHK's house and it resides within Kevin's neighborhood.
Adding further insult the typical forum B.S. vernacular gets bantied about "Fanboy' 'Censorship" blah blah blah.
Don't like the knife or how it functions? Go somewhere else and "share" your experience and opinion - not welcome here.
Need help? Need information? Want to have fun in a civil manner? - No problem.
Want to stir up crap or troll? No Thank you.
Mike summed it up. Rick makes hard use knives for Men doing important work. They have flippers, they aren't flippers. They aren't toys of pleasure they are tools meant for work that give some of us pleasure and pride by owning and using them - that doesn't make us "fanboys". It makes us guys who see things for what they are and appreciate it and the people that make the tools.
Anybody has a problem - email or PM me.
Now the thread is CLOSED.
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