If this guy is right then we’re all wrong.

I don't want to get off the subject of Frost Cutlery, but...The knife that Blackie Collins carries, the Little Rascal I was the sucker who bought one (w/o handling it first of course). I figured $30, what the heck it looked kind of gimmicky. I can't hardly believe Blackie could look straight faced into the camera and actually promote this knife. It was P.O.S. if I've ever seen one. Anyway I gave it to my girlfriends dad, and he seemed to like it. I may of even payed another $20 to get the same knife except better quality/workmanship.
Ode
 
I had retailed knives for a while. It is a fact that your average buyer is going to base his selection on price/brand/looks instead of performance/price/looks. As Frost makes alot of eye catching peices they eventually become brand recognized by the average buyer. Frosties expect less kowing they paid less, as a result they never seem to be the ones bringing the knives back complaining as they know they got what they paid for.
It is not very often you see a Frost buyer measuring the distance each side from liner to blade, whacking the spine to test the lock, buying little socks to store his Frosts, and cussing his friend for touching the blade
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The average guy will buy a knive for $9.95 and bragg to high heaven that it's the best in the world. Try selling him an off brand car or truck and you will likely get a lecture on quality is worth the extra cost. Basically it boils down to not knowing any better. We routinely place known rotten political figures back in office with the expectation that they will somehow do the proper thing. Idiotic, yes, but we do it anyway.


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My son who is a guide in Alaska,BC,Mont,and a few other western states uses a S&W mini swat.LOVES IT.His hunting partner who is also a Taxidermist uses a plain vanilla Leatherman.Wears it out and buys another.Go figure.
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have a"knife"day
 
This post started off with a comment about Frost knives and a review in Blade Magazine. After reading the previous posts, I have to ask myself "How much faith can you place in a knife review that you read in a magazine?"
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This thread started out as a commentary on an article read in Blade magazine. I've got to ask myself "How much faith can I put into the reviews I read in the trade magazines?"
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Unfortunately, Tangus, I feel one should
place little faith in a review of a knife
in a trade mag.. A widely read, favorable
review of a higher-end knife, generates a
lot of money. And we all know what happens
behind the scenes when there's money involved. Hopefully, our BF mag. will give
us unbiased reviews, EVEN if those reviews
are not well-received by some of the makers
who play a large part in our forum. Time will
tell.
 
I own a wide variety of knives, from an EDI Genesis in a custom leather G2 belt sheath, to Spydercos and Cold Steels, to cheap Pakistani-made folders and fixed blades. I happen to have more than one Frost Cutlery item, including a Cat Skinner. No, it's not a "high end" piece -- but it's a knife, and it does what knives do, within the scope of its limitations.

Please, let's not engage in knife snobbery. We're all Knife People, regardless of our tastes.

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Razor

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[This message has been edited by Razoredj (edited 01-07-2000).]
 
Good points.

The main problem I have with Frost Cutlery (besides the rumor of them making a KKK knife) is the way they're presented on the Home Shopping Channel. I suppose even Frost can have some knives that work the way they're intended (not that I'm looking to buy any). Just like a quality company can have some duds here and there.

There are people who think of Spyderco knives as "low-end" knives, because they only like to buy expensive custom pieces. To each his own.
Jim
 
The problem with the Home Shopping Channel or "Shop at Home's 'The Knife Collector's Show'" is that the hosts -- who know about as much about knives as your average Cutco salesman -- engage in deliberate fraud. They'll show you a Chinese, Taiwanese, or even Pakistani-made copy of a name brand knife, then tell you how much you're saving by buying from them. But the trick is that they quote the retail price of the name brand while selling the knock-offs for their legitimate wholesale price. You're not getting ripped off dollar-for-dollar (the same knives can be had for comparable prices from Smoky Mountain Knife Works, for instance), but you're being sold a false level of "savings."

I once posted a question about the bizarre "duality" one encounters in Frost knives. There appear to be two officially licensed versions of most Frost pieces, one produced in Pakistan and one produced either in Taiwan or someplace else. As you would expect, the latter version is of much higher quality. Yet both carry the Frost logo, apparently with Frost's blessing. Thus you can't really tell from brand alone just what quality level to expect -- and this is an arrangement I don't understand.

The last time I asked the question I got several of the usual responses ("Don't bother with that garbage, man, you're better off with a [brand name here]...") but no one was able to explain this manufacturing dichotomy.

Razor

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