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If you haven't particpated in passarounds- why?
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Dave, You should have a counter poll/post, If you have participated in passarounds, let me/us know why.
Possible answers
.) It was Fun
B) Gave me an oppurtunity to handle a knife I might not get a chance to otherwise
3) helped me to make an educated decision when buying a higher end knife
Dis) Have the opportunity to encourage the writer in me and write a review
Datand) To become a member of... Da Passaround Gang, I currently own the Spderco/Centofante passaroundknife.
Read about it here
De-uterting) Get a 1 in 8 chance of winning a higher end knife
Possible answers
.) It was Fun
B) Gave me an oppurtunity to handle a knife I might not get a chance to otherwise
3) helped me to make an educated decision when buying a higher end knife
Dis) Have the opportunity to encourage the writer in me and write a review
Datand) To become a member of... Da Passaround Gang, I currently own the Spderco/Centofante passaroundknife.
Read about it here
De-uterting) Get a 1 in 8 chance of winning a higher end knife
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Living in a foreign country has come up before, especially in regards to Canada.
We have discovered it can be very difficult, costly, time consuming to do passarounds acorss borders.
The bottom line is that is you are in another country there is no reason why you could not do you own passaround. All you need are a few like minded individuals.
We have discovered it can be very difficult, costly, time consuming to do passarounds acorss borders.
The bottom line is that is you are in another country there is no reason why you could not do you own passaround. All you need are a few like minded individuals.
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Two reasons...1) the knives didn't interest me 2) I found the price (not to mention shipping) too high to "rent" a knife for a week....let me give you an example...I seem to recall that the CRK Green Beret knife was part of a passaround where you had to pay $20-$30 plus shipping...I find it hard to justify 10% of the purchase price of a knife just to use it for 1 week...I suppose that might be fair if there were only 10 people involved but weren't there 130+ posts??? (certainly more than 10 participants).
I like the idea of passarounds and I understand that the knife has to be paid for...dunno...what about several categories of passarounds e.g. a "non-user" passaround where you get to handle the knife but not cut anything? certainly this would "cut" costs...
RL
I like the idea of passarounds and I understand that the knife has to be paid for...dunno...what about several categories of passarounds e.g. a "non-user" passaround where you get to handle the knife but not cut anything? certainly this would "cut" costs...
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RL I believe there were 8 people involved and you also bought into a raffle 1 in 8 chance to win the knife.
Read the posts, not just the # of replies and the subject line.
That post generated a lot of questions and replies.
Don't knock it till ya try it, and there have been passarounds for free, just the cost of S&H.
Read the posts, not just the # of replies and the subject line.
That post generated a lot of questions and replies.
Don't knock it till ya try it, and there have been passarounds for free, just the cost of S&H.
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I can't vote in the poll (is that a function of being just a basic member?) but I'd say that I don't know how they work, so I've just essentially ignored them. I'm also not of the "I own 200+ knives" level of knife-knut. I have a handful of decent production knives, and I'm not into the $250+ knives that many people here go gaga for. Simple is better, for me. Aren't many of the passarounds relatively expensive knives?
Anyway, I only learned through someone else's response to this thread that there is a cost involved in taking part in a passaround; I had not known this. I'm sure it's not prohibitive, but I'm not likely to spend money for a knife I won't end up keeping.
Then there's the fact that I have a hard time dragging myself to the post office -- I always procrastinate -- so I'd have a lot of people on my back demanding, "Where's the knife, already?!"
---Jeffrey
Anyway, I only learned through someone else's response to this thread that there is a cost involved in taking part in a passaround; I had not known this. I'm sure it's not prohibitive, but I'm not likely to spend money for a knife I won't end up keeping.
Then there's the fact that I have a hard time dragging myself to the post office -- I always procrastinate -- so I'd have a lot of people on my back demanding, "Where's the knife, already?!"
---Jeffrey
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RL & Peaceful,
This is exactly why I asked the questions because there are at least 2 different kinds of passarounds.
The "original passaround" only costs you to send it on to the next person. The knife is supplied by someone or some company.
The second "lottery passaround" if you will, the knife is bought by the passaround participants and won by someone at the end of the passaround. That's the one that charges an "entry fee".
So to me, this partially proves my point, new people may not know what a passaround is, and the endevour would benefit form a sticky thread at least.
This is exactly why I asked the questions because there are at least 2 different kinds of passarounds.
The "original passaround" only costs you to send it on to the next person. The knife is supplied by someone or some company.
The second "lottery passaround" if you will, the knife is bought by the passaround participants and won by someone at the end of the passaround. That's the one that charges an "entry fee".
So to me, this partially proves my point, new people may not know what a passaround is, and the endevour would benefit form a sticky thread at least.
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I don't have the time or patience to read 130+ posts to count the number of participants...perhaps the organizers could post a summary?
I wasn't knocking it...I like the idea in theory...but not for 10% of the purchase price.
Edited to add:
DaveH, I just saw your reply...well, then, I might be interested in one of those "freebies"
(especially for a Busse or Strider)RL
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RL,
All the passartound's I have ever seen is the number of participants are at the botom of the first post number 1 to whatever that gets updated as people sign up.
See the first post on the Spyderhawk sigunup:
http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=254433&highlight=spyderhawk+passaround
Unfortunately I don't do passarounds to Canada anymore, too costly, too time consuming, and too much hassle.
FWIW, I emailed Busse twice and they didn't reply, I have since heard they don't supply "test" knives. WHich I respect.
As For strider, well there was a lottery strider passaround, and if anyone wants to supply a strider that would be great.
All the passartound's I have ever seen is the number of participants are at the botom of the first post number 1 to whatever that gets updated as people sign up.
See the first post on the Spyderhawk sigunup:
http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=254433&highlight=spyderhawk+passaround
Unfortunately I don't do passarounds to Canada anymore, too costly, too time consuming, and too much hassle.
FWIW, I emailed Busse twice and they didn't reply, I have since heard they don't supply "test" knives. WHich I respect.
As For strider, well there was a lottery strider passaround, and if anyone wants to supply a strider that would be great.
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RL, I am think you may not fully understand how the "Lottery Passarounds" work. First a high end knife is choosen. So far in the lottery passarounds, we have done a CRK Green Beret, a Lrg Sebenza, a Surefire E2e, a Strider Sng (Made by Mick himself for our passaround). No one owned these knives when the passaround starts. We find 8-10 participants, We devide the cost of the knife by the number of participants. (IE CRK Green Beret was $300, so 10 people=$30 each). The organizer collects the $30 from everyone, buys the knife, and we start passing it around. One week per person. When the last person gets the knife, we set a lottery date at the end of that persons week. We use the California State lottery so everyone can check online, We have been using the Mid Day pick 3. Every person gets a number assigned to them in the order they signed up for the passaround 0-9. Then the first number of the Daily 3 corrosponds to one of our numbers and they are the winner.
See you are not really paying 10% to handle the knife, You are paying 10% to have a 1-10 chance of winning a high end knife, and you get to play with it for a week in case you don't win
See you are not really paying 10% to handle the knife, You are paying 10% to have a 1-10 chance of winning a high end knife, and you get to play with it for a week in case you don't win
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Originally posted by RL
DaveH, I just saw your reply...well, then, I might be interested in one of those "freebies"
RL
I doubt you will see a "freebie" Strider or Busse passaround. Mainly b/c those two companies most likely will not donate a knife for a passaround. So far Spyderco is the main Donater. And secondly, the only other way for a passaround is either of those brands is for an indivual to send his personal knife out for others to test. Would you send your $300+ knife around for others to use and abuse??
There is a Busse passaround sign up going on right now, but it is one as I mentioned above where you are buying a chance to win it Lottery Style. Since it has not started yet, I think we are waiting on two more people. You should check it out and follow along as the reviews pour in so you can see how it works.
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I haven't participated yet because for the knives that I've been interested in, spots have filled up before I even saw the thread.
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TBG, let me play devil's advocate here...again, I am not against the idea of passarounds, in fact I like the idea but I would like to answer the original question as to why I have not participated. Consider this, you are paying 10% of a brand new knife...after it has gone through the passaround, it has been used by 10 people (and possibly resharpened), certainly that devalues the knife. Personally, I don't like buying used knives but that issue aside, what if you don't like the knife? The appeal of passarounds is "try before you buy"...a good idea but it would suck to pay $30 just to find out that you don't like it (yes, it would be cheaper than buying the knife but still...)..and if you do like it (and you don't win th eraffle) then it would suck that the $30 would be "added" to your purchase price...think of this in terms of knife shows...it costs money to go to a show but you can "amortize" the costs across the hundreds of knives that you will handle...ultimately, I think peacefuljeffrey said it well "I'm not likely to spend money for a knife I won't end up keeping"
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RL, I think I can answer at least part of your last question since I both participated and not participated in the lottery passaround.
I only participated in what I was interested in to begin with and that I have thought about buying, the Green Beret already mentioned is an example. I'm actually was happy to pay the money to handle it because I would have probably bought one if there wasn't a passaround.
I didn't win but that's OK I payed to try it and know I can live without one for now.
Also a knife like the GB doesn't suffer from much on the passaround, so they're in a lot better condition than you'd think.
Also not yet mentioned is that by doing passarounds you are building community and giving other people that don't participate a chance to get more info. It's hard to put a price on that.
I only participated in what I was interested in to begin with and that I have thought about buying, the Green Beret already mentioned is an example. I'm actually was happy to pay the money to handle it because I would have probably bought one if there wasn't a passaround.
I didn't win but that's OK I payed to try it and know I can live without one for now.
Also a knife like the GB doesn't suffer from much on the passaround, so they're in a lot better condition than you'd think.
Also not yet mentioned is that by doing passarounds you are building community and giving other people that don't participate a chance to get more info. It's hard to put a price on that.
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I've always thought that the pass-around knife program was a pretty cool idea !
Specifically, it allowed one to have the opportunity to play with a knife (for a nice period of time) before having purchasing it.
Before residing in GA. . .I lived in Zoo Jersey (south central). There wasn't squat for knife stores nor sharp knife knut objects ! Yeah, several gun shops (45 - 60 min ride) but they had a limited quantity of wares and brand selection catered to the typical hunter/fisherperson (Browning, Remington, etc.). There was a B&M store in one of the malls in Philly. Super jacked up prices and the blade help were a bunch of asses. It was enough to make ya sick !
The reasons that I have yet to participate:
1. Several of the knives didn't appeal to me.
2. When a knife did appeal. . .no open spots to fondle.
I think that your doing a fine job DaveH with the pass-around program ! Keep up the good work !
Also. . .what happens to the knives after you've passed them around ?
Specifically, it allowed one to have the opportunity to play with a knife (for a nice period of time) before having purchasing it.
Before residing in GA. . .I lived in Zoo Jersey (south central). There wasn't squat for knife stores nor sharp knife knut objects ! Yeah, several gun shops (45 - 60 min ride) but they had a limited quantity of wares and brand selection catered to the typical hunter/fisherperson (Browning, Remington, etc.). There was a B&M store in one of the malls in Philly. Super jacked up prices and the blade help were a bunch of asses. It was enough to make ya sick !
The reasons that I have yet to participate:
1. Several of the knives didn't appeal to me.
2. When a knife did appeal. . .no open spots to fondle.
I think that your doing a fine job DaveH with the pass-around program ! Keep up the good work !
Also. . .what happens to the knives after you've passed them around ?
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You may recall that a significant number of passarounds have been my own personal knives. Some I have kept, some I sold.
In geenral the knives return to their original owners:
The Shrike went back to New Graham, L Noble's Ti Salsa went back to her, etc.
The spyderco supplied knives just continue to go on passaround. The temperence fixed blade for example is on it's third passaround, some are on their second passaround. I suppose once a passaround show sufficient wear or other problems, no intereest it will be retired. But we haven't reached that point yet.