Simple: they are mentally ill, missing a few genes and many brain cells, panicky prone to hysteria dolts who are media/guberment led, followers, lemmings. Those with no cognitive ablilities of their own. Unable to think rationally for themselves, and rely on others to lead them thru life. They are the same people who bring multiple children into the world & have 2 SUV's and a big house and yet protest about global warming. Use a knife in front of these sheeple and their frail weak hearts and minds fail on them and they gasp for air.
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In most cases...I'd guess one too many horror movies, and ignorance. Thank Hollywood and people's addictions to the crap they pump out, and the methods of the modern media. I had one person (sadly a grown man) go into hysteria and start ranting about some "killer in the woods" over the scampering of a raccoon while out camping...they never came with me again...in fact I never spoke to them again after that night.
During the one recent administration bayonet lugs were outlawed as part of their attempts to reduce crime. How many civilian bayonettings have you ever heard of?
Quit trying to make everything make sense Bob, it can't be done.
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That sheeple pict has shepherd in it, that's particularly amazing to me.
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Sadly, for the most part, you are correct my brother.
I mean, the point about curing people of their irrational fears is true. First you have to get the mental patient into therapy and most of these people are totally disinterested in getting cured because they don't know they're being illogical, irrational and recalcitrant. They think they're right.
Even in this forum you see people talk about personal responsibility and stuff and some of them go off the deep end about guns, or whatever else they are scared of.
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Yeah...note the demeanor of the shepherd...interesting.
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Sigh... sad, isn't it? I grew up in an earlier and simpler time (the '50's) when things seemed to make sense... at least to a child. There were things then that probably didn't make a lot of sense, either, but I was blissfully unaware of them.
I'm all grown up now (at least I'm a lot older, even if I won't admit to being an adult yet). I've had well over sixty years to watch the changes that have taken place occur. Some of those changes are for the good, but many aren't.
I've had time to observe the contrasts of a society coming out of World War Two with the society we have today, and can actually trace back the beginning of the radical changes we've experienced. It started in the sixties, actually. Just before the Vietnam war, I joined the Marine Corps and thought that once I was a Marine I would gain greater understanding of the world around me: I guess I did, but not much. When I received my commission I was sure that I would gain that understanding, and I did, to a degree but not to the degree that I had hoped. When I left the Corps and went back to college I was sure that I would gain all the wisdom that I sought: I didn't. One thing that I did accomplish through all that, was to gain a better eye for what was going on in the world around me. I could look at what had transpired over that time, and what was happening then, with a more critical sense of history and change. I saw the fairly staid and stable society of post WW2 change radically, starting in the mid sixties, to an anti everything, anything goes culture. The people who formed that culture are now considered staid, but there is a new generation now fostering an entirely new culture on our society. The new culture, oddly, is a culture of conformity and fear. Never thought I would see that in America, but it's here. The one thing that has remained constant, of course, has been change. The one thing I have learned along the way is to stop trying to make sense of it all: that'll just drive you batty. You can analyze it, and even see the turning points, but you really can't make sense of it.
Sorry for rambling on so long. I have these dumb attacks from time to time where my fingers, of their own volition, put dumb words on the screen.
I'll stop, now.
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You're not dumb. You just wish the best for people. Unfortunately, people don't want the best for themselves at times.
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Well you make some good points Bob. I think beside the things you mentioned is the fact that we are a much more urban society now. When I was growing up it was in a rural state and area. Things were and still are much different. Here in the Dakota's it is still pretty rural.
I grew up on a farm/ranch and worked building construction for years. To us, Knives are tools, always have been. It is common to see the Average guy around here with the Buck Knife on one side and a pair of pliers in a pouch on the other side. Kids around here are farm kids or at least know farm kids and knives are just different out here.
A lot of people don't realize that there are more people in the urban area of Minneapolis than there is in ND, SD, Wyoming and Montana combined. That's a rural area.
I grew up on a farm/ranch and worked building construction for years. To us, Knives are tools, always have been. It is common to see the Average guy around here with the Buck Knife on one side and a pair of pliers in a pouch on the other side. Kids around here are farm kids or at least know farm kids and knives are just different out here.
A lot of people don't realize that there are more people in the urban area of Minneapolis than there is in ND, SD, Wyoming and Montana combined. That's a rural area.
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I like living in my dreamland. In it, I have few difficulties with using my knife on a daily basis, and I have colleagues and friends whose views of knives have changed over time - particularly after I take them on a camping trip. And, unless I'm perpetually sleepwalking, that dreamland is pretty much the same as my day-to-day life.
People who don't understand knives or have an irrational aversion to folders, fixed blades, or whatever aren't mentally deficient. They just don't see things the way we do. It can be bloody frustrating at times. The vast majority can be won over with a bit of one-on-one engagement. Go ahead and treat them like sub-humans or mental patients if you think it will help, though. Personally, I think that if we as a community keep accepting that this sort of thing is inevitably a wedge issue that separates 'us' from 'the sheeple', we will concede our position to those who would regulate away our freedoms (moreso).
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People who don't understand knives or have an irrational aversion to folders, fixed blades, or whatever aren't mentally deficient. They just don't see things the way we do. It can be bloody frustrating at times. The vast majority can be won over with a bit of one-on-one engagement. Go ahead and treat them like sub-humans or mental patients if you think it will help, though. Personally, I think that if we as a community keep accepting that this sort of thing is inevitably a wedge issue that separates 'us' from 'the sheeple', we will concede our position to those who would regulate away our freedoms (moreso).
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100 % Mentor. :thumbup:
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GREAT post Mike. :thumbup::thumbup:
I too, am sick of that term and the implied haughtiness that accompanies it. It has a "why aren't people cool like us" ring to it when they come back here to post their indignation.
It seems that every month some snot always comes along and complains about "sheeple" and how they recoil in horror at him pulling out his large flipper, a sheath knife, or a bali song to open a package at crackers in the company lunch room.
These cubicle commandos love to think they they have some special weapon or skill set that only a well seasoned, manly man practices. They love to pull out their knives, they love to think that men tremble and women swoon when they see " the blade ". Then they run back here and breathlessly report how they work around, are related to, or hang out with a bunch of weenies, obviously much less educated in the way of the blade than themselves.
Maybe it is because I live in Texas. Maybe it is because of the company I choose keep. Maybe it is my choice of jobs; I have been in construction for over 25 years, but spent another 10 in finance (lending) wearing a coat and tie every day. I don't know what it is, but in 46 years of carrying pocket knives, I have never had a bad incident. I use common sense, and have enough blades to carry the appropriate knife to the party.
No one seems to care. Many women around here have small blades of some sort in their purses or in their desks. So they don't care. And since just about every guy I know carries at least one knife (for me, always two - a larger folder like my JYDII and a small pen knife for splinters) no one cares what you have in your pocket. They are more likely to ask to see your knife if it is anything other than a Buck 110.
I have always strongly suspected that the cries of horror given by "sheeple" were either imagined, or egged on. I do know guys that carry knives that will whip them in a second to open a bag of M&Ms, they run screaming to help someone open a package with their large folders, or cut their food with a large tactical knife up in a restaurant because "they just can't abide a dull blade".
But I think they are mistaken about the "sheeple" they encounter. People are not are turned off by their knives. They are turned off by their juvenile and annoying behavior. They just think the knife is the problem for the people around them.
Dismissing the people that you annoy as the problem (and labeling them as mindless idiots to boot) is actually the real problem itself.
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Living in California I carry a folder as local law allows any but will come down on you for a "hidden" fix blade. It is odd that people will react to an image and not a reality. What I mean is a SAK is obviously a tool for opening a wine bottle and cutting a wheel of Chedder but a buck knife is a deadly weapon. Both are folders and serve as tools but people, note I don't call them sheeple after the Rodney King Riots, are comfortable with what they know. Or what they have seen on TV. Play it safe, keep your folder in your pocket and only use it when neccessary. Good Luck.
One of the best posts yet, and probably nails the truth of the matter 100%
I don't know where all these 'sheeple' are, but I have not encountered them. Once in a great while I have somebody ask me why I have a knife, but it is rare. In fact, I think I've converted some people to the carry of a knife by giving them a small sak.
But...
I have seen the occasional young Soldier Of Fortune reading wanabee flipping out his lastest tactical wonder, and making people around him feel a bit hinky. It all comes down to the type of knife and how it is taken out. Being well mannored never creates any problem. But unlike a knife, mannors can't be bought.
midnight flyer: I really like and agree with your post. I have been coming to this forum for a few years now (I don't post too often)... I really enjoy reading about people's wilderness experiences. I like knives, both as tools that can be helpful in one of my favorite places - the outdoors, and also for their aesthetics - the quality of a well made and machined knife is very pleasing.
The disdainful "sheeple" commentary is a fairly frequent occurrence here. I carry a nice folder (Mnandi) with me most days and it comes in useful in many ways. I have yet to see any reaction to it that could count as "sheeple - like". If I carried my 7 inch Becker I may get a different reaction - mostly due to the incongruity of it in a particular setting. Carrying it on a camping trip is unlikely to create the same reaction.
The us vs them perspective implied by comments about "sheeple "do not reflect well on the larger community represented on a forum like this.
The disdainful "sheeple" commentary is a fairly frequent occurrence here. I carry a nice folder (Mnandi) with me most days and it comes in useful in many ways. I have yet to see any reaction to it that could count as "sheeple - like". If I carried my 7 inch Becker I may get a different reaction - mostly due to the incongruity of it in a particular setting. Carrying it on a camping trip is unlikely to create the same reaction.
The us vs them perspective implied by comments about "sheeple "do not reflect well on the larger community represented on a forum like this.
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I think you hit the nail on the head. When society was mainly rural it was normal for everyone to carry a knife and as we've moved to a more urban society that is less and less common.
I also live in a very rural area and no one around here would give you a second look if you walked into Walmart with a huge Bowie knife on your belt. If they did mention it at all it would be because they wanted to see it.
I also agree with some who have said that people don't think for themselves. It's easier for them to get their opinions from the news and friends than to actually form them on their own. Yes, some of those people can be educated and some simply won't listen to reason.
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Breaking out the "haughtiness" 700 Club Card, look at Brother Bob!
Now every time someone comes in here with a story about a negative response, they will know for a fact they are a haughty little snot.
Good one brah, good one! "Cubicle commandos!" Go to the head of the class and wear the big boy pants Brother Bob for figuring out the world needed another derogatory term similar to "keyboard commando" and "mall ninja."
You go girl!
Methinks you let slip the dogs of your own sexuality a bit on this one, Bob.
Look at the Ouija Board, Crystal Ball and Tarot Cards on Bob!
Maybe it's just because you have not been around someone who has had an adverse reaction to those knives, too.
I know, I know, your psychic, remote viewing powers are, indeed, incredible. Don't mince words, you don't "strongly suspect," you know. You know a lot, in fact, you probably know it all.
I sort of reserve the knife for the very, very tough plastic packages that some shelled nuts are sold in, and other tough food packages. Not the M & Ms though.
Don't really "whip it out" either when I do have to use one. Some do.
Yes, yes, yes, there are people like that. There are also people like that who use boxcutters and small knives because they just want to cut something.
Me? I'm not very helpful anymore. I will sit across a room and watch someone struggle with a box, like a monkey trying to get its' penis into a football...with say one of the broken rip cord openers...because on several occasions I have helped people after they asked, "anybody have a knife?" And after cutting something open for them, they looked at me, "thanks O.J." Or some other bizarre remark about the knife.
I have actually done this, not because I "can't abide a dull blade" which you have never heard someone say, you're making it up, but simply because I want to cut the meat and not tear the meat apart or smash the meat apart.
The problem is, some people would consider a Boker Arbolito fixed blade with about a 3.0 inch blade or a Opinel or Victorinox a, "large, tactical knife." I generally don't carry around "large tactical knives."
That is, no doubt, true in some cases.
In many cases, the knife is the problem for the people around them, Bob. While you seem so quick to think a bunch of people carrying knives are the morons in the tale, you fail to concede that some of those "sheeple" being talked about are as well. No, they get a pass, it's the other people, lesser people than you.
You see, Bob, you're the other side of the coin in this story. You sit and bellyache about one group of people calling the other group of people "sheeple" and then you throw out some choice names of your own.
I annoyed a woman I worked with at Corporate Express once. Back in 1999. She was a douchebag. What I did to annoy her was use a folding knife to cut shrink wrap instead of using the company supplied box cutters. I had to dispose of boxes at times, too. To me, a folding knife is safer than a box cutter the same shape as a stick of gum but a little bit bigger. Now, much to your disappointment, I was not wearing a black balaclava and jumping from boxtop to boxtop and then lunging onto the final box, my victim. No, just cutting tape, shrink wrap, cardboard.
I don't care if I annoy paranoid, bedwetting douchebags, Bob.
She went to my manager with the complaint, Bill, about 20 years my senior, was carrying a Spyderco Police Model. I was off scott free!
A couple years later, on here, a kid got fired from a warehouse job for doing the same thing, for having a weapon. For not using the company-supplied terrorist weapon, the boxcutter. Proven terrorist weapon, too! So much for switchblades, gravity knives and balisongs being the weapons of choice for criminals...
Even though I won the battle with the Summer's Eve bottle at Corporate Express, I learned my lesson. I don't use pocketknives around people I don't know or people that I use my psychic abilities, similar to your own, to see if they are a douchebag or not. Just around people I know. People who are known to me and don't have a douchenozzle sticking out of the top of their head or perhaps a walking pessary of a human being. Truth is, most of the time, you will know them by their douchenozzles and you won't have to use your psychic abilities anymore.
It is funny but generally I have no problems, the one time I did I was genuinely shocked by it. I think it is largely made up, though knife-phobia does exist to some level. Remember that often state statutes are urban driven (afterall, the capital of most states is a city). In the city, a knife is more likely to be looked upon with suspicion, whether that suspicion is justified is a totally different matter. Look at it this way, if you are using a knife for a knife related task - you have answered the inevitable question - what is that for?