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For the first time ever, I witnessed the closest I have ever seen to this fear (or is it just misunderstanding?) of a knife. My co-worker snapped open his Ka-Bar MULE to open a package that was delivered by the UPS guy. Said UPS guy clearly recoiled at the sight, or sound, of that hefty blade opening. It seemed as though it was a combination of the black knife and the very solid and prounounced lock-up that unnerved him. I just thought about all the times my dad and I would go into stores, etc with our skinning knives on our belts and nobody would say anything, unless they wanted to see it.
This presents the same problem as the "sheeple" nonsense. The teens I work with (I am going to school to be a youth pastor) are generally very educated and responsible. In fact, I take the guys and their dads on an annual campout and they are usually pretty handy with the blade, even though some of them can't sharpen to save their lives. Stereotypes on both sides of this discussion are just plain stupid*.
*Note: this says nothing of my opinion of you or your posts in general. They are usually very informative and such.
Very few people are able to deal with anything that is at all outside their normal routine. Take people away from what they are used to as being normal and disrupt their patterns of life and you will find that most people simply shut down. There are social science terms for it, but basically as a society most civilizations (not just individuals) cannot perform even basic tasks when things start to break down. Why bring this up in a thread about knives? Simply because the vast majority of people are such creatures of habit that if you break their daily pattern by even a tiny bit you will find they get aggravated. It does not take a hurricane, blizzard, or quake to cause panic. Just let the coffee machine break down and watch the stress level go through the roof. Wear a knife on your belt or use a knife for everyday tasks and watch their stress levels go thru the roof. The Boy Scout motto of "be prepared" is not in the vocabulary of many people. Fewer still grasp the concept of thinking in terms of "what happens if?," and even less can be counted on to react quickly, let a lone being prepared for life, such as by carrying a knife
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hopefully this will answer the ops' question...atleast to the best I can.
Not to be political, but alot of this kind of stuff is because of our government, however it is more indirect than it is direct. As far as education goes, when Russia won the space race back in the 60's, what people were taught by the public education system changed from standard values and what not, to simple commercialism...time gone by, a few wars have happened since...hollywood has made numerous movies about parts of these different wars. Ever since the cold war, people have been living in fear. unfortunately many of these fears are unfounded. One of the fears that have been spawned is the fear of weapons; whether they be firearm, knife, bat (club), etc... Many of these fears we can thank hollywood for, some of them we can thank the government scare tactics of the cold war for, many of them we can thank the very bias media for. all in all, fears, such as those that some have of knives, or people carrying/using them is ultimately the culmination of many factors which have created a perfect storm. Luckily, the perfect storm has been fading away in recent years with regard to peoples fears of weapons and there users...while some of the sheeple groups who would wish to ban many of these "weapons" which many of us enjoy, much of society has come to its senses and have chosen to rise up agains these power hungry groups. However, because of there nature and nurture (both a culmination of their upbringing, and events experienced throughout their lives), some people still have these fears of knives and other weapons, and unfortunately, they will continue for generations to come. However, it seems that a great part of society has become acceptable, or atleast tolerant of these various "weapons" that some have fears against. And unfortunately, (most of) the media has yet to come around, and still have a rather negative bias towards these weapons.
edit: oops, didnt realize this thread has been long dead, and that I have threfore zombified it. Also, didn't mean to write a book, but had a good amount of info to say.
Not to be political, but alot of this kind of stuff is because of our government, however it is more indirect than it is direct. As far as education goes, when Russia won the space race back in the 60's, what people were taught by the public education system changed from standard values and what not, to simple commercialism...time gone by, a few wars have happened since...hollywood has made numerous movies about parts of these different wars. Ever since the cold war, people have been living in fear. unfortunately many of these fears are unfounded. One of the fears that have been spawned is the fear of weapons; whether they be firearm, knife, bat (club), etc... Many of these fears we can thank hollywood for, some of them we can thank the government scare tactics of the cold war for, many of them we can thank the very bias media for. all in all, fears, such as those that some have of knives, or people carrying/using them is ultimately the culmination of many factors which have created a perfect storm. Luckily, the perfect storm has been fading away in recent years with regard to peoples fears of weapons and there users...while some of the sheeple groups who would wish to ban many of these "weapons" which many of us enjoy, much of society has come to its senses and have chosen to rise up agains these power hungry groups. However, because of there nature and nurture (both a culmination of their upbringing, and events experienced throughout their lives), some people still have these fears of knives and other weapons, and unfortunately, they will continue for generations to come. However, it seems that a great part of society has become acceptable, or atleast tolerant of these various "weapons" that some have fears against. And unfortunately, (most of) the media has yet to come around, and still have a rather negative bias towards these weapons.
edit: oops, didnt realize this thread has been long dead, and that I have threfore zombified it. Also, didn't mean to write a book, but had a good amount of info to say.
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No. The little fixed of mine I pictured in that thread really is my EDC knife.
I have used it everywhere, heck even in the middle of a packed Walmart parking lot. I don't flash it around, I simply remove my hand from my front pocket. Most of the time no one notices till I am putting it away.
I do sometimes get looks of confusion from non knife people when they see my knife doesn't fold. You see it takes them a few extra seconds to understand that there is a sheath inside my pocket, and it doesn't just go in there loose.
Ha that's what I generally do. Sometimes it's caused funny reactions, like when people don't notice the blade at all and wonder how i neatly slit a package with 'just my fingers' or something.
That last bit that reminds me off when i used my CRKT Minimalist in front of some folks down visiting from New York, they were city folks to be sure. They weren't alarmed, more curious. I either explained, or showed the kydex sheath hanging around my neck, and let one of them handle the knife. He looked if over very carefully and sounding rather confused said "It doesn't fold anywhere?"
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I carry a large folder like a military and a small folder or small fixed blade as well.
Depends on the company and circumstances which one comes out.
I have found that the orange handled military gets less looks than an all black emerson.
But in public unless I need to use the larger knife why wave the attention flag.
I have noticed as well that a calm 2 handed opening of a large folder instead of the menacing flick'n'click does not turn heads and fears. That audible sound "switchblade sound" is an attention magnet and scares people.
Depends on the company and circumstances which one comes out.
I have found that the orange handled military gets less looks than an all black emerson.
But in public unless I need to use the larger knife why wave the attention flag.
I have noticed as well that a calm 2 handed opening of a large folder instead of the menacing flick'n'click does not turn heads and fears. That audible sound "switchblade sound" is an attention magnet and scares people.
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I have two small fixed blade gentleman's jackknife designs I drew up that I need to scan and upload, one is called Colby Jack, and the other Jack Frost, ideally with paper micarta and nickel scales and an etched snowflake. This social standard just pisses me off so much I'm almost going out of my way to use my fixed blade in public, just so I can give disgusted looks back to the ones that I recieve.
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I'll just quote my own post from another thread...
And here is an example of the mentality I was describing in the post. "Look everybody...I have a knife!!" Just gotta find some minuscule reason to pull it out and wave it around. Typical elementary school age behavior but really tiresome to see in folks beyond that age.
And here is an example of the mentality I was describing in the post. "Look everybody...I have a knife!!" Just gotta find some minuscule reason to pull it out and wave it around. Typical elementary school age behavior but really tiresome to see in folks beyond that age.
The reaction to the blade, whatever it is, is dependent upon the crowd you're playin to.
"Whip out a blade" in front of buds, no problems.
Gingerly open ANY blade in front of certain people, you got a problem.
Example in this thread of pulling blade to cut shrinkwrap. Feminist offended. Cause she was lookin to be offended. Tryin to find anything to b!tch about, and found a reason.
If you look back at adverse reactions to your blades, whatever the instance, you'll realize it was not your action with the blade that was necessarily the problem, but the maroons who witnessed the action, and were lookin for an excuse to complain.
We all run into this chronic a$$holia on a daily basis, in this case all they can find to complain about is your knife, so off they go. If all they can find is the knife, you're doin pretty good.
Complaints that young people flippin balis or flickin wrists is the cause, well, young people do stupid stuff alla time, boom boxes, tight t-shirts, walikn and talkin loud, pants on the floor (bell bottoms for you old timers), etc. No different than a bali flip show for friends on the street.
Truly adult people have the capacity to overlook others actions, realizing that they harm no one else. Small people feel the irresistable compulsion to intervene. Been that way for centuries, ain't gonna change anytime soon, so no sense in blamin ourselves.
"Whip out a blade" in front of buds, no problems.
Gingerly open ANY blade in front of certain people, you got a problem.
Example in this thread of pulling blade to cut shrinkwrap. Feminist offended. Cause she was lookin to be offended. Tryin to find anything to b!tch about, and found a reason.
If you look back at adverse reactions to your blades, whatever the instance, you'll realize it was not your action with the blade that was necessarily the problem, but the maroons who witnessed the action, and were lookin for an excuse to complain.
We all run into this chronic a$$holia on a daily basis, in this case all they can find to complain about is your knife, so off they go. If all they can find is the knife, you're doin pretty good.
Complaints that young people flippin balis or flickin wrists is the cause, well, young people do stupid stuff alla time, boom boxes, tight t-shirts, walikn and talkin loud, pants on the floor (bell bottoms for you old timers), etc. No different than a bali flip show for friends on the street.
Truly adult people have the capacity to overlook others actions, realizing that they harm no one else. Small people feel the irresistable compulsion to intervene. Been that way for centuries, ain't gonna change anytime soon, so no sense in blamin ourselves.
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My response has nothing to do with elementary school age behavior and absolutely everything to do with rediculous negligence of a vast majority of society. And Fubarski, you're totally right. People have nothing better to do with their lives than pick arguements to make their lives less boring...