I'm Done with this BS!!!!!

[rayban]

I won't believe a word the OP says unless he denounces his Beckerhead number...

 

[FortyTwoBlades]

I won't believe a word the OP says unless he denounces his Beckerhead number...

But that may be one of the "callings" of the hobby he wishes to pursue, while others he may have passed on. Beckers generally fit with the whole "tough, rugged, not too fancy with bells on" attitude.

 

[FuSchniken]

I will not be done with knives until I am satisfied that my collection covers the knives that I consider classics and modern masterpieces. Thankfully I am very picky and without going too far down the rabbit hole I should be able to make it back out just fine. I think. Sure I can. We'll see.

 

[be_free]

What a buzz kill, I'm just getting into it. Contemplating a Fällkniven TK3mm as a gentleman's EDC knife (I'm Swedish so I actually type with åäö regularly). Perhaps a Spyderco Manix as a more casual EDC. Love the ESEE brand, they seem rugged and made for usage. ESEE 5 looks nice for survival/camping, probably with a ESEE Molle Back and Accessory pouch for an Altoid size survival kit. Definitely an Izula for concealed carry, with the Micarta handle of course. Mmmh, I wonder if the ESEE 5 might be over kill for weekend campings, I don't want to scare the neighbors. I should probably get a Benchmade BM-140BK Nimravus. What am I thinking, I'm so selfish. I should probably get something for my wife, and what about my dad....

 

[FortyTwoBlades]

No not a buzz kill at all! I think we all go through the "accumulation phase" at some point--there are a certain subset of knives out there that you'll come to prefer, and that varies greatly from person to person. One of the ways that we find out what that subset or family of knives is is by getting a whole bunch of different ones and trying them out and seeing from experience what works for you, what doesn't, what things you change, etc. etc. It's all part of the process of discovering your "cutlery identity" as it were. :thumbup:

 

[st9v9n]

I did the same thing after about 10 knives... was getting pointless. I realized this was once I found that my $20 Vic Supertinker is much more useful and gets more pocket time than anything else... from Para2 to a Bradley Alias.

BUT... I moved on to a new obsession... pipe smoking (tobacco)... trying different pipes and tobaccos is TONS of fun and super relaxing too.

 

[cziv]

I should probably get a Benchmade BM-140BK Nimravus. What am I thinking, I'm so selfish. I should probably get something for my wife, and what about my dad....

Get her a pink Izula and him a black one (if he whipped your butt a lot when you were a kid) or a Sebenza small or large if he's always been a wonderful man.

 

[Art_Vandeley]

BUT... I moved on to a new obsession... pipe smoking (tobacco)... trying different pipes and tobaccos is TONS of fun and super relaxing too.

I already moved through that, and found my perfect match. Peterson Rock of cashiel pipes, and Holger Dankse Royal Navy flake. I always smoke a pipe when I`m out and abouting. Keeps of the mosquitos as well

As for knives, I know what I like, I have what I need, The only knives I buy now is to satisfy my curiosity about diffrent styles and steels.

Helle and ESEEs for fixed blades (altough I am thinking about buying a traditional Tolle knife from one of the local makers here.)
Opinel and Victorinox for standard utility knives and multitools
Spyderco folders

And the odd SRM 710, Moras and Svord.

 

[555]

I did the same thing after about 10 knives... was getting pointless. I realized this was once I found that my $20 Vic Supertinker is much more useful and gets more pocket time than anything else... from Para2 to a Bradley Alias.

BUT... I moved on to a new obsession... pipe smoking (tobacco)... trying different pipes and tobaccos is TONS of fun and super relaxing too.

Own one of these yet?

The Knife collecting Bug strikes again.

 

[555]

On second thought, downsizing or staying put with the size of the knife collection might not be the answer.

Really, it's the Internets fault.

Back in the day before the web, all we had was that little hole in the wall Hardware Store that had a small knife display case.
Many of us, and you know who you are, have collections many times the stock of the little old Hardware Store.
With limited access to what was available in the world, for those who didn't travel much, for all they knew the little old Hardware Store was the worlds supplier for knives.

Then came the Catalogs. The Pushers delivered by the USPS started a fire for many of us, where buying knives 5 at a clip became common place. Man oh man and how many of us wish we bought more of what we saw back then because of price and it isn't made anymore. You don't know what you got till it's gone/not made anymore/when a Company closes it's doors.

Now for the Web: Today the web has opened up the world of knives to the common/average Joe knife collector. We have access to everything that's made out there and it is great. Knowledge of products, F&F, Steels is at our finger tips.

So the real answer to slowing or wanting every knife in the world is: stop receiving Mail and take your chances that you won't see Esav in front of your place in a LLV with the Postmaster General to ask you why you don't receive Mail anymore and get the heck off the web by shutting off your computer.

 

[Stubai]

555...one of the issues here is that people are in fact ADDICTED to knife collecting. I agree that the internet has exacerbated this condition. Won't it be interesting when all the addicts finally pass on and we see these waves of hugh cutlery collections (most of them unscathed by any reasonable use) just 'loggerjamming' the net? One can never exit the halls of addiction. The wall are too high. Addictions can only be transferred (not vanquished), hopefully to a more sane line of reasoning and useful behavior.

 

[cziv]

555...one of the issues here is that people are in fact ADDICTED to knife collecting. I agree that the internet has exacerbated this condition. Won't it be interesting when all the addicts finally pass on and we see these waves of hugh cutlery collections (most of them unscathed by any reasonable use) just 'loggerjamming' the net? One can never exit the halls of addiction. The wall are too high. Addictions can only be transferred (not vanquished), hopefully to a more sane line of reasoning and useful behavior.

I haven't had a drink in 25 years! No collections of high priced hooch (or any kind) at our house. I sure am thirsty though??




Just kidding, not thirsty at all! :thumbup:

 

[jackknife]

On second thought, downsizing or staying put with the size of the knife collection might not be the answer.

Really, it's the Internets fault.

Back in the day before the web, all we had was that little hole in the wall Hardware Store that had a small knife display case.
Many of us, and you know who you are, have collections many times the stock of the little old Hardware Store.
With limited access to what was available in the world, for those who didn't travel much, for all they knew the little old Hardware Store was the worlds supplier for knives.

Then came the Catalogs. The Pushers delivered by the USPS started a fire for many of us, where buying knives 5 at a clip became common place. Man oh man and how many of us wish we bought more of what we saw back then because of price and it isn't made anymore. You don't know what you got till it's gone/not made anymore/when a Company closes it's doors.

Now for the Web: Today the web has opened up the world of knives to the common/average Joe knife collector. We have access to everything that's made out there and it is great. Knowledge of products, F&F, Steels is at our finger tips.

So the real answer to slowing or wanting every knife in the world is: stop receiving Mail and take your chances that you won't see Esav in front of your place in a LLV with the Postmaster General to ask you why you don't receive Mail anymore and get the heck off the web by shutting off your computer.

You know, I won't argue with this, because I've always felt that it was an artificially created market. I will hand it too the knife companies, they've done a great job creating a market where the drive is to have the latest and greatest new knives, no matter that they don't really deliver any more real world performance than what you already have in your pocket. Heck, they have all the young guys, and few older ones, convinced that if they don't have the latest 123xyz steel or the latest new kind of blade lock that will support the weight of the Titanic, they're in grave danger when they go to open a UPS box or the mail. Never mind that our grandfathers got by just fine in way harder times with a simple slip joint pocket knife using a simple carbon steel that would rust if it was neglected. Why, it's enough to give one nightmares, if you believe all the hype.

I think Jeff Randall is right in that 98% of the knife market is BS.

I've backed way off, to the point where I'm carrying a Vic classic on my keyring, and a Case damascus peanut in my pocket, and I'm getting by just fine.

Carl.

 

[FortyTwoBlades]

I personally think that part of the problem is that the market is perhaps chasing some of the wrong (or less important) things. We've achieved tremendous material progress and technical development, but we still find the market mostly based around a handful of general categories, including but not limited to: Tactical, Hunting, Bushcraft/Camping, EDC/General Utility, Traditional. I think it's safe to say that most knives on the market fall within these categories...but what we really need to see is subdivision of those categories beyond the surface level of function. I'd like to see more knives on the market designed to fill a specific set of tasks rather than general ones. Select the most likely uses the end user will desire the piece for and design around those tasks to fill a functional specialization. We've been looking at knives from the perspective of "what will the knife be doing?" instead of "what will the USER be doing?"

 

[cziv]

You know, I won't argue with this, because I've always felt that it was an artificially created market. I will hand it too the knife companies, they've done a great job creating a market where the drive is to have the latest and greatest new knives, no matter that they don't really deliver any more real world performance than what you already have in your pocket. Heck, they have all the young guys, and few older ones, convinced that if they don't have the latest 123xyz steel or the latest new kind of blade lock that will support the weight of the Titanic, they're in grave danger when they go to open a UPS box or the mail. Never mind that our grandfathers got by just fine in way harder times with a simple slip joint pocket knife using a simple carbon steel that would rust if it was neglected. Why, it's enough to give one nightmares, if you believe all the hype.

I think Jeff Randall is right in that 98% of the knife market is BS.

I've backed way off, to the point where I'm carrying a Vic classic on my keyring, and a Case damascus peanut in my pocket, and I'm getting by just fine.

Carl.

With all due respect, that's business. R&D depts. have to come up with new stuff or they're out of a job, marketing has to jam the latest R&D developments down our throats to buy the new products or they're out of a job.

I for one don't care to go d-evo on my knives and carry what my 90 yr old Dad does or his father. It'd be like everyone trading in their nice 2000 - 2012 autos for Model-Ts.

Jeff believes what he says, so much so, that they've manufactured a whole new line of the former RC's into clip point versions. They've done collaborations which went alright I suppose and a couple that keep getting delayed but the RP keeps clamoring for. 98% BS? I don't think so, just follow the money.

 

[Ankerson]

I buy knives for very specific tasks so I tend to be very picky about what I buy, I just don't buy every new knife that comes out or because it's the flavor of the week.

The market is what it is though and there are many reasons that people buy knives so we have a large variety to choose from.

 

[FAL'ER]

Good for you bro. I'm going the other direction for just a little longer and then god willing, I'll see you on the other side.

 

[sodak]

The web opens up a whole new world, some good, some bad. I can see the OP's point, but I will maintain that I've learned so much over the last 10 years, it's worth it. Many years ago, I had to ask older guys how to sharpen. Everyone had a different technique, some worked, some didn't, most were full of themselves. Now I know better. I also have knives that GREATLY outperform steels of only 40 years ago, with equal or better geometries too! And I still appreciate the old steels as well. I thank the web for removing the mystique and BS that I grew up with. If you weren't fortunate enough to grow up with a knowledgeable mentor, then you had no recourse for proper learning. Here, you can sit, read, and learn a ton.

And pick up a knife or two...

 

[Ankerson]

The web opens up a whole new world, some good, some bad. I can see the OP's point, but I will maintain that I've learned so much over the last 10 years, it's worth it. Many years ago, I had to ask older guys how to sharpen. Everyone had a different technique, some worked, some didn't, most were full of themselves. Now I know better. I also have knives that GREATLY outperform steels of only 40 years ago, with equal or better geometries too! And I still appreciate the old steels as well. I thank the web for removing the mystique and BS that I grew up with. If you weren't fortunate enough to grow up with a knowledgeable mentor, then you had no recourse for proper learning. Here, you can sit, read, and learn a ton.

And pick up a knife or two...

Yes there have been a lot of changes over the past 2 decades in the knife industry, even more over the last 3 decades.

I still remember when I was young listening to all the people talk.......

Then I started using different knives and steels, I mean really using them and very soon after found that most of what people were saying was BS, hearsay, urban legends ect.

So with that I have been testing knives since the late 70's using many different methods.

So that is why I really don't usually ring in too much when people start talking about the older steels like 1095 and the older carbon steels, I have been there before a long time ago.

 

[blademaster01]

Yes there have been a lot of changes over the past 2 decades in the knife industry, even more over the last 3 decades.

I still remember when I was young listening to all the people talk.......

Then I started using different knives and steels, I mean really using them and very soon after found that most of what people were saying was BS, hearsay, urban legends ect.

So with that I have been testing knives since the late 70's using many different methods.

So that is why I really don't usually ring in too much when people start talking about the older steels like 1095 and the older carbon steels, I have been there before a long time ago.

thats a lot of testing, care to share some recurring discoveries you`ve made. i`ve done quite a bit of testing too ,not as much as you though. i`d kinda like to compare notes.