I'm hard on working knives but this sharpener keeps 'em sharp

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22-rimfire said:
Most of us know that using one of these types of sharpeners isn't the best choice, but at least mykem actually cares about having a sharp knife. My thought is..... if the knife gets worn down due to sharpening method and it has already been 10 years, just buy another. Seriously, who really cares? They got 10 years of good use out of the blade and counting.
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rimfire,

I like your attitude! Yep, there are many better ways to sharpen a blade.

For example, i own a pretty nice Gatco sharpening kit. It has the vice, decent stones, oil etc. After i figured how to use it right (it took a lot of practice on some cheap blades) i put some very fine edges on three of my nicer blades.

A lot of guys enjoy the process of seeing how sharp they can make a blade.

But for me, it's an exacting process that i found time consuming and a bit tedious because when I do something i always try to do it right.:)

Life often involves trade-offs. For my Endura, i opt for, "quick, easy and just a little more than good enough" for what i need.
 
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Twindog said:
Where did that super wide back bevel come from? It's difficult to believe you did that with a pull-through sharpener.
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Right after i got the Endura i used a belt sander on it and may have gotten a little carried away.:)

But i don't mind that bevel at all. In fact i like it. Maybe it's all in my mind, but for me a wide bevel cuts deeper and better than a shallow bevel.
 
Looks like the primary grind could use some TLC to bring the secondary bevel width back down. Get thyself a coarse soft-bond silicon carbide or aluminum oxide bench stone and give it a bit o' elbow grease. :)
 
Glad it works for you OP. as a pull through sharpener that looks like the best one I've seen. That said, I'd never consider using one. I did back in the day before I knew any better.
 
it is not like people here would baby their knives or purposely ruin them. The way I care AND use my knives, I see no problem for all of them to last my life long.
 
craytab said:
Glad it works for you OP. as a pull through sharpener that looks like the best one I've seen. That said, I'd never consider using one. I did back in the day before I knew any better.
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Before you "knew any better" about what, amigo?

Before we talk about sharpening a blade, i think we necessarily must take into consideration the knife itself and what it's used for, or if it's used at all.

I wouldn't use the Meyerco sharpener on a safe queen or some beauty displayed in a shadow box. My Endura was beautiful for maybe a day or two after i took it out of the box.

I mean who washes, waxes and polishes their 10-year-old Ford F-150 that they use to haul around yard waste and old metal going to the recycler? ;)
 
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FortyTwoBlades said:
Looks like the primary grind could use some TLC to bring the secondary bevel width back down. Get thyself a coarse soft-bond silicon carbide or aluminum oxide bench stone and give it a bit o' elbow grease. :)
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FortyTwo,

I couldn't help but notice the bevel on that machete in your sig pic. Now that's a BEVEL!
 
sharp_edge said:
glad it works for you. but your standard of sharpness is among the lowest here on bladeforums.
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Different strokes and all that.

I'm in the bottom level of sharpness standard here as well. Cleanly pull slicing copy paper works for me.

I would destroy an atom splitting polished edge before first break at work. Cutting abrasive material, scraping, light prying, edge coming in contact with stone, metal etc...tends to do that.

The scary sharpness some here strive to,and achieve is impressive. But that is just one facet of our hobby, the hobby all of us share and discuss.

I personally haven't used a pull thru since I was a kid. The fact others do doesn't bother me. If it works for them, then have at it.

My knives are touched up on a Sharp Maker with the standard medium and fine rods. Or a DC 4 stone. Works fine for me. [emoji4]
 
I use a ken onion edition work sharp and it is great for easy sharpening... As for the vg10 most times a couple of passes across a sharpening steel works fine or if it is convexed I usually make a few passes across my leather belt and that brings it back to scary sharp
 
Todd21969 said:
Different strokes and all that.

I'm in the bottom level of sharpness standard here as well. Cleanly pull slicing copy paper works for me.

I would destroy an atom splitting polished edge before first break at work. Cutting abrasive material, scraping, light prying, edge coming in contact with stone, metal etc...tends to do that.

The scary sharpness some here strive to,and achieve is impressive. But that is just one facet of our hobby, the hobby all of us share and discuss.

I personally haven't used a pull thru since I was a kid. The fact others do doesn't bother me. If it works for them, then have at it.

My knives are touched up on a Sharp Maker with the standard medium and fine rods. Or a DC 4 stone. Works fine for me. [emoji4]
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That's the whole idea, bro. Do what works for you. :)
 
Use the method of sharpening that works for you. Don't worry about what someone on these forums thinks.
 
I'm pretty sure cray was referring to before he knew the quality of edge and damage pull through sharpeners do to blades. Just because a guy hauls scrap metal with his 10 year old ford doesn't mean he scrapes the side of his pick up on everything he drives by.

Some guys use the hell out of there knives and enjoy giving them a good quality sharpening. Different strokes and all.
mykem said:
Before you "knew any better" about what, amigo?

Before we talk about sharpening a blade, i think we necessarily must take into consideration the knife itself and what it's used for, or if it's used at all.

I wouldn't use the Meyerco sharpener on a safe queen or some beauty displayed in a shadow box. My Endura was beautiful for maybe a day or two after i took it out of the box.

I mean who washes, waxes and polishes their 10-year-old Ford F-150 that they use to haul around yard waste and old metal going to the recycler? ;)
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mykem said:
Yeah, you're right. I guess i'm just gonna toss it. I can't for the life of me figure out how i've used it this long and this well. I must be an idiot.:D
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So basically, you come here to a knife forum filled with knife aficionados, present us with a questionable sharpening job, and then get your panties in a bunch when someone says something that you don't agree with?

Look, I've had my fair share of "knife bloopers". The knife below is one that I tried to sharpen and completely destroyed the grind on with paper wheels. If I started a thread about the below knife, I would expect someone to say the edge is crap...because it is!

This is a knife forum where we discuss very specific subjects like detent strength, lock strength, bevels, grinds, fit & finish, and other trivial issues about our knives. If you want to boast about how proud you are of your endura (without any criticism), then you're in the wrong place.

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mykem said:
Before you "knew any better" about what, amigo?

Before we talk about sharpening a blade, i think we necessarily must take into consideration the knife itself and what it's used for, or if it's used at all.

I wouldn't use the Meyerco sharpener on a safe queen or some beauty displayed in a shadow box. My Endura was beautiful for maybe a day or two after i took it out of the box.

I mean who washes, waxes and polishes their 10-year-old Ford F-150 that they use to haul around yard waste and old metal going to the recycler? ;)
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How to properly sharpen a blade. And I am not your bro, or amigo, or your bud so let's dispense with that language. What did you expect posting this sort of thing here. Do what you want, it is your stuff, but to brag to a bunch of knife dorks about this sort of sharpening? Either you didn't know what reaction you would get or you are here to ruffle feathers. Don't get upset when you put your opinion out on the internet and people disagree.

Whitedog said:
Use the method of sharpening that works for you. Don't worry about what someone on these forums thinks.
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Nobody is asking him to come on a knife forum filled with knife nuts and brag about how hard he uses his knife and how he sharpens it with what most would consider and inferior method. For the most part everyone agrees he should do what works best for him but if he is looking for a pat on the back of what that is, I am afraid he came to the wrong place.

There is an underlying tone of "I use my knives hard and you guys don't with your pretty edges and fancy sharpening" which always fascinates me. I have some very well and hard used knives. My system is just a norton 2 sided stone and a ceramic rod, work sharp for big reprofiles like axe edges. Hard use beaten up work knives are perfect for learning to sharpen properly on :thumbup:
 
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Blues Bender said:
So basically, you come here to a knife forum filled with knife aficionados, present us with a questionable sharpening job, and then get your panties in a bunch when someone says something that you don't agree with?
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Sorry, i don't wear panties. I think you're confusing my underwear with the panties you're wearing. :rolleyes: You sound like they're pretty bunched up at the moment.
 
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craytab said:
How to properly sharpen a blade. And I am not your bro, or amigo, or your bud so let's dispense with that language. :
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Hey not bro, amigo or bud. It sounds as f your panties are bunched up too!

Have a real pleasant day now, ya hear. :highly_amused:
 
Although I cringe at the state of that blade, I kind of see where Mykem is coming from. If you use your EDC a lot, it's a pain to keep restoring a super fine, beautiful, high-performance edge. I know when I'm done with an edge that came out especially well, I'm always reluctant to use that knife on anything hard. Pull-through sharpeners, coupled with a fairly beat-up but functional knife makes things easy.

The back bevel is interesting because it is so wide, which would normally indicate an especially acute edge -- maybe something in the 10 dps range. But with a poorly controlled belt grinder, it's hard to tell what the underlying geometry is.

But it should make the pull-through sharpener basically a tool to create and maintain a microbevel, which is the easiest way to keep an edge sharp.

The photos are not high quality, and I can't see much about the edge itself. It looks kind of ragged in the photos, but that could be an artifact of the photo itself. It looks like it would have trouble slicing paper cleanly without catching, but Mykem says it does slice cleanly so it maybe it is an OK edge.

So this is an approach that has value for some people in some circumstances, but for me there is nothing that makes me appreciate my knife better than a super well-done edge with an acute angle.
 
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