I'm new here...why does every fixed blade knife have to be a star at batoning?

We are here to abuse our knives. How are you going to ruin a shovel?
The same way it ruins knives. You know, gross abuse, probably snap at the handle, WAS NEVER DESIGNED FOR THAT😮, and such. I’m sure I’ll break it one of these days and I’ll post a sweet destruction videos for y’all to enjoy. 🤷🏻‍♂️🤠
 
I have no doubt this thread is going to eventually compel me to go out into the wetlands surrounding my house, amass a large supply of fallen branches, small trees, and such, and baton the heck out of them with my Mora Garberg... :)
 
I have no doubt this thread is going to eventually compel me to go out into the wetlands surrounding my house, amass a large supply of fallen branches, small trees, and such, and baton the heck out of them with my Mora Garberg... :)
Prove it. 🤡😈
 
Prove it. 🤡😈

Of course, the key word is "eventually"... I might eventually scale Mt. Kilimanjaro also! :D

But if I ever DO get around to adding this to my "do list," I'll also go to the hassle of getting a pic-hosting service to actually post the pics. :D
 
Of course, the key word is "eventually"... I might eventually scale Mt. Kilimanjaro also! :D

But if I ever DO get around to adding this to my "do list," I'll also go to the hassle of getting a pic-hosting service to actually post the pics. :D
Not how this thread works, buddy. I got called out and posted pics, now it’s your turn. 😆🤣🤣
 
I wonder how many of you out there that are debating back and forth, both for and against batonning, realize that the original question appeared to be more of why so many people believe a knife's ability to baton is a good TEST for a knife? The question of do you need to or not was not really what was asked. For me, I see it as a good test for durability of a knife, nothing more.

Out of curiosity, does anyone really believe that their opinion over whether or not batonning is necessary, is really important to anyone else?
 
Not how this thread works, buddy. I got called out and posted pics, now it’s your turn. 😆🤣🤣

LOL... Point taken, my friend! :D👍

Of course -- you actually CLAIMED to have done something -- and then proved your point! :)

I have a friend who filed himself an (IMHO) awesome take-down "tactical" shovel... But I'd better stop talking about it, because then I'd have to post a pic or two... 🤔😏
 
I wonder how many of you out there that are debating back and forth, both for and against batonning, realize that the original question appeared to be more of why so many people believe a knife's ability to baton is a good TEST for a knife? The question of do you need to or not was not really what was asked. For me, I see it as a good test for durability of a knife, nothing more.

Out of curiosity, does anyone really believe that their opinion over whether or not batonning is necessary, is really important to anyone else?
HEY! DO NOT BRING LOGIC INTO A GOOD PURSE SWINGING THREAD, OR YOU WILL BE SHUNNED!! Excellent point, though.
 
I wonder how many of you out there that are debating back and forth, both for and against batonning, realize that the original question appeared to be more of why so many people believe a knife's ability to baton is a good TEST for a knife? The question of do you need to or not was not really what was asked. For me, I see it as a good test for durability of a knife, nothing more.

Out of curiosity, does anyone really believe that their opinion over whether or not batonning is necessary, is really important to anyone else?
Well because it you don't believe you should be batoning then obviously you don't believe it's a good test for a knife.

If you do plan to baton then obviously it is one of the criteria in testing the knife.

Whether intentionally done or not the wording of the title was a great way to disguise a baton or not to baton thread. OP is a legend.
 
For starters, there isn't always a perfect stump out there waiting to be utilized for laying the wood horizontally to do the "split and twist", which means vertically splitting kindling with your hatchet. I've never warmed up to the whole thing to holding the wood steady with a split of the wood, so I usually just hold it by hand... which from my experience makes it more dangerous.

Again, for me personally... batoning is easier, safer, quicker and more controllable. Wood is held steady by the same knife that splits it. To each his own :)

Five minutes of Ray Mears will teach you to use an axe safely, it's not difficult whatsoever.
 

Five minutes of Ray Mears will teach you to use an axe safely, it's not difficult whatsoever.
I feel like the most dangerous axe size would be a boys axe (roughly 24-28 inches). Because with something smaller you can swing it from your knees where it is impossible to get hit. With a bigger one it hits the ground. That Boys axe mid size however is a bit long to be using on your knees, and when standing too short for the ground. Aka ankle injuries. Of course paying full attention you are probably fine but all it takes is one semi ful attention tired swing and you are screwed.

That being said 28 inch boys axe is my favorite size lol
 
Not against having at least one baton-able knife for camp but i always pair it with a decent corona folding saw because although i might baton for splitting i will not chop to length with the knife.
 

Five minutes of Ray Mears will teach you to use an axe safely, it's not difficult whatsoever.
I've been watching Mears for around 15 years and own the SFA that he single handedly made famous.

Still prefer to fire prep with a knife, still think it's easier. No softwoods around here, mostly gnarly oak.
 
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