Imperial Cuchilleria hecho en Mexico=Imperial Cutlery made in Mexico

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They nearly did, I had this horrible warning come up telling me I was only allowed to do 10 at one time. Thats why you will see I have split them up in seperate posts.
Regards Tim

 

I'm bringing this interesting story back to the top. When I get time I will add Larry303's pictures from another current thread.

 

Moved the regular old timer member way.

 

don't you just love all this inside history. keep the stories coming. i for one enjoy them and gives my small collection more depth. thanks for all the effort, i know this has been said before but one can not say enough for all the great effort put out by some of the great guys in this forum.

 

I intended to add a short section from Baer's memoirs regarding Joe Foster but I don't have the file on this computer. I'll add that when I get time. Baer mentions no dates and doesn't reveal a lot of detail. And as several people have recommended to me, take his own narratives with a grain of salt as he was always the consummate salesman no matter what he was selling. Still he seemed to have a mind like a steel trap and didn't appear to forget anything. Ever.

 

Most interesting.
Thanks for this.
Harold

 

One is glad to be of service. As best I can remember, the others which sold did not have the red tape. Nor did mine. That tape was notorious for adhesive failure and while each of them may have originally had them, they were not present to the best of my memory. I was offered the roll before you bought it but declined for lack of funds, thus I wound up with only the three.

I am under the impression that this was not a salesman's roll at all but intended as a presentation roll for internal use. And the numbers most likely pattern/material numbers correlating to the molds. Unfortunately it seems that like so much of the earlier (pre-1983) Imperial archives, the original papers on this project would up in the dump during the move of machines and materials from Prov. R.I. We are indeed lucky to have this (prototype I think) roll and the examples contained.

As with the Baer memoirs section, the pictures I have of my three are on my other computer and I will have to fetch them. I do note that the missing photos from this early thread the helper mentions 33 knives, I think, while you note 22.

I've not yet compared the molds of the deer head on my Mexico example with the same art on a U.S. Imperial knife to see if it is the same molds. Another think I need to get around to, eh?

In my typical habit of rambling on with a topic of interest, this thread is a perfect illustration of why printed media on Schrade history is intrinsicly flawed. The knowledge of Schrade and affiliates history is constantly evolving and though the content of a printed publication contains information to the best of an author's knowledge at that time, it is often outdated shortly thereafter. We see this with the books authored by Levine, Voyles and Goins. All important references of course. However IMHO the work we do and publish here, and Larry's (LRV's) archive sites are much more valuable and available in that new content is added constantly as information comes to light. Imagine I had printed a book in 2007 (lack of doing so I was recently pilloried for elsewhere here), how much information would have been lacking?

 

Thank you Larry for once again entrusting me with another of your treasures . It would of been such a shame to see the Mexico=Imperial Cutlery set broken up.
They are now bedded down in the Maroochyman stable Down Under with the rest of the thoroughbreds.

I'm as "Happy as Larry" ha ha

 

Hechos Locos!

These are fun to collect - with such little info out there it's like every one is a mystery. Plus there's never any high bidders chasing these Mexican Imperials. I doubt I've gone higher that $10 on any of them.

Here's the whole lot - and I'll break them down by tang stamps too:


In my little group of bandidos here the most common tang stamp is the Cuchilleria Imperial Mexico



Next is the stamp I most associate with these knives - Imperial Hecho En Mexico



The knives with less real estate received the abbreviated - Imperial Mexico



This last stamp was a real mystery to me - Dos Ciervos Hecho En Mexico


The mystery with the Ciervos stamp was that I first found the brown knife and even though I strongly suspected it was a Hecho I couldn't be certain - until that black knife came along. It's got the same stamp but that is a well known Hecho pattern that Baer dubbed the 'Ticket To The Dance'. So that's the missing link here connecting Dos Ciervos to the rest of the Hechos, but of course now the question is 'why'. My theory is it's a south of the border SFO.


Another mystery is the shell handle. How'd that come to be? It suggests a co-production effort between Mexico and Providence with the end product being delivered to a Mexican customer.


The knife with the punch in the top pic is the only Hecho I have that's a triple spring.


The last (and least) picture is that tiny little fingernail picker - just cause it's such a cute lil thing.


Anyone else here into the Hechos?

 

Here is a link to archived photos of Larry303's set: http://www.collectors-of-schrades-r.us/Mexican Imperial/index.htm

 

Codger after reading this and many of your treatise over the years, I have come to the conclusion you are the "The Most Interesting Man In The (Schrade) World. The man in the Dos Equis beer commercial is merely an impostor.

 

Appreciate the accolades but...

Here are my three Mexican Imperials. They were pulled from the roll before Larry bought it. So there are more patterns yet.

 

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An article Jason has been working on. Some interesting information we havent seen for a while.

http://www.collectors-of-schrades-r.us/articles/Pottery and Royal Poincianas.pdf