Increasingly unlikely "what ifs"

marcinek said:
What if before they were vaporized, Kevin John made a clone of Chris Reeve and had that clone make "CRKs"?

Or...what if Chris Reeve cloned himself and called the clone Kevin John?!?!? Mind blown.
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No, Chris Reeve was artificially created by the South African government to create the ultimate knife maker, made by splicing the genes of all the greatest knife makers of all time.

The Chinese ambassador was given a tour of the laboratory and when shown the beaker that contained Chris Reeve’s dna he leaned forward and dipped the tip of his tie into the liquid. He soon insisted that the tour wrapped up for he had “other engagements to attend.”

Upon returning to his car he sealed that tie inside a package and shipped it to China, where they used it to produce an evil clone of Chris Reeve who would build clone knives for the Chinese.

What they didn’t realize is the dna in the tie mixed with a small stain of soy sauce causing the clone of Chris Reeve to become unstable and begin splitting, with each generation more corrupt than the first evil Kevin Jobn Chris Reeve clone.

That is why we have now many Chinese makers building clones of Chris Reeves, and even sometimes clones of Kevin John Chris Reeve clones!
 
Of course the Americans caught wind of this and quickly realized they had to close the “sebenza gap.”

The Bradley Alias was an attempt at a home grown knife that could rival the Sebenza but alas it was never quite there.

At some point in time an American spec ops team led by Mick Strider kidnapped Chris Reeve and brought him to the USA where they could extract his secrets.
 
I'm perfectly comfortable with so called lesser brands. I would not miss CRK at all or the frequent mention of them here on the forum as being the best of the best using a mediocre steel for such a high priced knife.
 
22-rimfire said:
I'm perfectly comfortable with so called lesser brands. I would not miss CRK at all or the frequent mention of them here on the forum as being the best of the best using a mediocre steel for such a high priced knife.
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S35vn is no mediocre steel. Highest wear resistance does not equal best steel. Many people who don’t have a fixed angle or power sharpener appreciate being able to touch up a steel easily. Also s35vn is fairly tough for a stainless.

I don’t understand this opinion that only the highest wearing steels like s110v/s90v, m390(20cv and 204p), Maximet etc. are the best steels and anything that can’t cut as many pieces of rope in a row is no good.

That is only valuing one characteristic of steel. S35vn is still a very premium steel and even though Chris Reeve doesn’t run it to max hardness there are even advantages in that.

Of course you are entitled to your opinion but I just cannot agree that s35vn is in any way a mediocre steel. What steel would you pick that is better at having balanced characteristics between wear/sharpening, toughness, corrosion resistence etc.?
 
Dangerously said:
Is there any other knife with a pivot bushing? So even someone like me can take it down (with one tool), and put it back together properly, every time, no loctite, no fiddling with pivot tension?
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Short answer...NO.
In addition, sir, once back together, the blade is ALWAYS perfectly centered.
Actually, in my rather imperfect opinion, a model 21 large Sebbie...
with a few well-earned spider-trails on the titanium scales...resides at the top of the scale.
I have looked HARD, but never found one nicer...
(...and yes, one rides in my pocket..)
 
Lapedog said:
... S35vn is still a very premium steel and even though Chris Reeve doesn’t run it to max hardness there are even advantages in that.
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I said it's a mediocre steel for the price of the knife these days. I like S35VN actually and it is premium enough for me in most cases. I'm not a steel junkee, and I certainly try to squeeze the most value I can out of a dollar in most cases. I have my spendy moments however. Unfortunately, those moments are usually on fixed blades that I use very little. That makes no sense, but that's reality.
 
22-rimfire said:
I said it's a mediocre steel for the price of the knife these days. I like S35VN actually and it is premium enough for me in most cases. I'm not a steel junkee, and I certainly try to squeeze the most value I can out of a dollar in most cases. I have my spendy moments however. Unfortunately, those moments are usually on fixed blades that I use very little. That makes no sense, but that's reality.
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I guess I could see that.

Still in my eyes though most of the value in a CRK is not the blade steel. It is the impeccable construction and fit and finish.
 
CRKs are just a few of hundreds of different brands out there. Don't get me wrong, I love my CRKs, but if they ceased to exist, I'd still have a hundred other knives I can use.
 
19-3ben said:
I've never spent more than about $150 on a folder

Edited out one more remark i'd made due to my error.
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Resist if you can. Once you open the door to higher priced(for lack of a better term) folders it can be hard to get it closed again.
 
Lapedog said:
S35vn is no mediocre steel. Highest wear resistance does not equal best steel. Many people who don’t have a fixed angle or power sharpener appreciate being able to touch up a steel easily. Also s35vn is fairly tough for a stainless.

I don’t understand this opinion that only the highest wearing steels like s110v/s90v, m390(20cv and 204p), Maximet etc. are the best steels and anything that can’t cut as many pieces of rope in a row is no good.

That is only valuing one characteristic of steel. S35vn is still a very premium steel and even though Chris Reeve doesn’t run it to max hardness there are even advantages in that.

Of course you are entitled to your opinion but I just cannot agree that s35vn is in any way a mediocre steel. What steel would you pick that is better at having balanced characteristics between wear/sharpening, toughness, corrosion resistence etc.?
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M4 is better. With a cheap diamond stone you can touch it up in seconds. Super easy. I have zero interest in s35vn even on 50 dollar knives but like what you like man. :)
 
Lapedog said:
S35vn is no mediocre steel. Highest wear resistance does not equal best steel. Many people who don’t have a fixed angle or power sharpener appreciate being able to touch up a steel easily. Also s35vn is fairly tough for a stainless.

I don’t understand this opinion that only the highest wearing steels like s110v/s90v, m390(20cv and 204p), Maximet etc. are the best steels and anything that can’t cut as many pieces of rope in a row is no good.

That is only valuing one characteristic of steel. S35vn is still a very premium steel and even though Chris Reeve doesn’t run it to max hardness there are even advantages in that.

Of course you are entitled to your opinion but I just cannot agree that s35vn is in any way a mediocre steel. What steel would you pick that is better at having balanced characteristics between wear/sharpening, toughness, corrosion resistence etc.?
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Agreed. I'd even go so far as to say that I'd prefer something like AEB-L or CPM-154 for some applications. All are great.

That being said, if I'm not at risk of chipping my knife, I like high wear steels like anybody else.
 
Shotgun said:
M4 is better. With a cheap diamond stone you can touch it up in seconds. Super easy. I have zero interest in s35vn even on 50 dollar knives but like what you like man. :)
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M4 has poor corrosion resistance.

Also just about anything resharpens quickly on a diamond stone. Do any amount of reprofiling and both steels become a chore.
 
I wouldn't notice. I haven't seen either of my current CRKs in a while, they're in a cabinet somewhere.

I keep buying Sebenzas and trying to get motivated about them, but I really ought to give up. They're just not my cup of tea.

Besides, isn't CRK kind of already gone? I mean, isn't it really CREWK (Chris Reeve's Ex-Wife's Knives) or something now?

I'd be much more upset to hear that Olamic had packed up shop, for example. I carry their knives all the time, and I'm really looking forward to my next Swish.
 
Peter Hartwig said:
I love CRK's (they are a good all around design), but there are plenty of other knives out there that could fill my needs and wants. For almost 40 years of my life CRK didn't exist and another 16 I didn't know they existed. I seemed to get along just fine.
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Despite working with knives day in and day out for three decades I didn't jump into the deep end of the fancy knife pool until recently and after retirement. In year's past I was aware of CRKs through a lot of my watch friends. I handled a few at GTGs. They just didn't float my boat; reputation for quality notwithstanding. Then I saw the Impinda profiled, reviewed and celebrated here. Now I'm on the wait list for one.

CRK Impinda (once delivered), Laconico Keen, and Shirogorov F3 will be my folding knife rotation largely because of BF. Not too shabby. Education is a wonderful thing. I sincerely thank all who helped open my eyes to a brave new world. :):):)
 
evilgreg said:
I wouldn't notice. I haven't seen either of my current CRKs in a while, they're in a cabinet somewhere.

I keep buying Sebenzas and trying to get motivated about them, but I really ought to give up. They're just not my cup of tea.

Besides, isn't CRK kind of already gone? I mean, isn't it really CREWK (Chris Reeve's Ex-Wife's Knives) or something now?

I'd be much more upset to hear that Olamic had packed up shop, for example. I carry their knives all the time, and I'm really looking forward to my next Swish.
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Is the action on a swish like the 247? In terms of flying out but not drop shut close?
 
On the subject of materials, I think that is the most contentious part of the CRK business model. The other two of the Big 3 caught on to the notion of providing a variety of materials, and I imagine that has improved their sales and their products’ percieved value.

S35VN and Ti is a fine choice of materials, but variety (especially of the blade steel) would immensely add to the potential market appeal without detracting from their core market.

Like, how many more people would be interested in a Seb with M4, 20CV, perhaps even ZDP-189? Applying the Spyderco philosophy of keeping tried-and-true designs and experimenting with the materials could be a win-win scenario for the consumers and the manufacturer.

Reliably flawless execution of the manufacturing process is only worth so much when you can, at the potential cost of barely-appreciable fit and finish, get a much wider variety of knives with materials more befitting the cost.
 
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