Infi…are my expectations too high

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No way INFI should chip like that cutting wood, unless you hit rocks or some other inclusion in the wood. Either bad heat treat - in which case you'll find out the next time you use it (I doubt this is what it is), or it's a slightly "singed edge".

I've seen it happen. Just sharpen it a couple times. I wouldn't waste all that steel peeling it back until the chips are gone in one session. Just sharpen it once, use it as normal, sharpen it again when it needs it, and it'll be gone. On a big blade I don't concern myself with sharpening all the small dings out. If you do, you'll quickly have an arsenal of toothpicks.

All that stuff will correct itself as you continue to use then sharpen the knife...

Or if you can always send it in if you want it perfect again. Best of luck to you whatever you choose to do.
 
jharpphoto said:
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[/URL][/IMG]I'm a little frustrated here fellas. I purchased an FAT ASH-1 from a member here and it arrived in excellent condition. It has resided in my safe for a few weeks until last weekend when I had a a chance to take it camping. I only shaved some bark of a few sticks and sharpened a limb into a skewer and back into it's sheath it went. Got around to cleaning it up and noticed a friggin chip out of the edge!! It has never been dropped or hit anything other than the above mentioned wood limb. I guess I thought for a $500 knife the edge would be more resistant to chipping. Am I expecting too much from this allegedly fine instrument? I never sharpened it when I received it since it had its factory edge on it. I did strop it a few strokes on a linen/leather strop but never took a stone to it. WTH?
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the wound on the edge is not a big deal , sharpen it out relatively easy.
 
I have learned over the years that sometimes a factory edge is weakened. In fact I have purchased knives that I severely damaged the original edge, then after one resharpening the dam thing held up better by several magnitudes, and this goes for customs as well. Not saying that this is what happened here but it could be. Someone else had chipping with an A2 knife on another forum on very light use. That is not normal for A2 unless it is a burned edge or HT'd very hard. I would not worry about it. Besides, those chips look to be about than 0.1mm which is tiny. That edge is probably 1mm so those chips are tiny. Now if a dime size divot pops out of the edge, then you have a bad HT ;)
 
I got an email from Jerry last night offering to make it right. As many of you stated the Busse exemplary customer service does not disappoint. I'll be shipping it off today for some personal Busse attention.
 
Yup. Jerry makes things beyond right. Trust when we say...the BEST warranty in the biz!
Now....if we could just get him to make a 13asic 13?
 
boring said:
Once there is a roll in the blade, and you steel back the edge, Is that section of blade weaker or more likely to do it again?
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Absolutely, in fact the metal that is behind the roll has also been weakened and in order to restore the edge and get rid of the damaged metal you would need to remove more than just the width of the damage.
 
Looks like a 1mm or 2mm mark on the edge.

I deformed the edge on my Ash1 against concrete. Steeled it with a screw driver and a few minutes later it was shaving again (I was not the user tanking it against the concrete!)

I've mashed the tip on an SD against stainless steel. Same easy fix.

Chopped a small stone in half while splitting wood with my FBMLE. The rolled edge moved right back with a steel.

The are knives. You cut or chop something that is a bit harder, and they deform. Steel it a bit, then a light sharpening and you are good to go.

I've had many steels act brittle until after a sharpening.

A recent Spiderco kept chipping out on the edge until j took a diamond sharper to the edge for a few minutes per side. Then it never happened again. Same angle, but I had removed a tiny bit of the steel.


I would suggest the edge on this ash1 may have a bit of embrittled steel. Give it it's maiden sharpening, and go use it!

You will feel more manly, your beard will grow and florish, and the knife will be yours!
 
Bigfattyt said:
I deformed the edge on my Ash1 against concrete. Steeled it with a screw driver and a few minutes later it was shaving again...
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Yep - always been my experience too. I keep a special screwdriver just for it. Firm, even pressure is the trick for me if the edge is properly rolled, rather than the faster way often seen in cooking programs.

Infi responds to steeling really well, without suffering from cold-working fracturing too quickly, unlike most steels.


Bigfattyt said:
Give it it's maiden sharpening, and go use it!

You will feel more manly, your beard will grow and florish, and the knife will be yours!
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I realised that this is why I've probably not seen this issue with infi myself. If it's a user, I nearly always reprofile the blade before it sees much use, often it's the first thing I do if I know it's going to be a keeper.

I do feel it makes the knife more mine.

My first Busse, the original CG-FBM, got reprofiled on the day I received it.


@OP: Glad you're getting it sorted - not that there was ever any doubt about that. You made a very fine knife choice there!
 
That's not surprising, out of the box, combat grade models have a very rough edge, which means a lot of micro weakness points due to misshappen edge.
My b8 cg thinned by a knifemaker takes everything -> perfect edge and steel
 
Cobalt said:
I have learned over the years that sometimes a factory edge is weakened. In fact I have purchased knives that I severely damaged the original edge, then after one resharpening the dam thing held up better by several magnitudes, and this goes for customs as well. Not saying that this is what happened here but it could be. Someone else had chipping with an A2 knife on another forum on very light use. That is not normal for A2 unless it is a burned edge or HT'd very hard. I would not worry about it. Besides, those chips look to be about than 0.1mm which is tiny. That edge is probably 1mm so those chips are tiny. Now if a dime size divot pops out of the edge, then you have a bad HT ;)
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the edge was Decarburizatied in HT or over heated by sand belt :D that often made edge weakened about 1.5 millimeters wide .
 
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jharpphoto said:
I certainly didn't mean to ruffle the feathers of anyone. Without question I should have contacted Busse first ( after I saw the thread at the top of the forum page). But it was too later immediately turned to this fine forum and all of the knowledgeable members for their support and guidance. Hope I didn't piss Jerry or anyone else off too much.
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Don't own any busse knives, but if it were my knife, I would feel like a jackass complaining to busse about microchips without making sure they are indeed abnormal first. I can understand the frustration of being displeased, but not wanting to be unreasonable.
 
yep Jerry is hooking me up. Don't know how to close a thread though. Mod's feel free to shut er down.
 
Right, as a non-paying member you don't have permission go close your own thread. A moderator will have to do it. Try contacting one of the ones listed at the bottom of the Busse subforum.
 
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