Interesting dilemma regarding USPS insurance payout on a lost custom knife

Esav Benyamin said:
The knifemaker can show a comparable item from his website, CRK can show retail value of their model, and the traders can show their correspondence. If the answer is still no, take it to the next level.
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I'm guessing maybe showing proof of actual sales of comparable items would be better than just "asking" prices on a website?

FWIW, it appears clear that 609.4.3 (Nonpayable Claims... Personal time used to make hobby, craft, or similar handmade items...) refers strictly to hobby goods, not goods for sale by a business (whether a custom knifemaker or a car manufacturer). IMHO, being a business would preclude 609.4.3 from even being considered.
 
I have processed claims with a written statement from a dealer or business. One thing to remember is if your $500 custom is lost, stolen, or broken and it was insured for only $50 -- guess what you are going to get?
 
I wonder how different things would turn out if he had sold the $400 knife, had a paypal transaction linked to a shipping label, and then showed the price paid for the knife/paypal record? Would they still give a hard time?
 
Toured a med size post office the other week. I was surprised to see a position they called "the thrower". That is exactly what he did; throw the boxes and larger envelopes into carts 10 to 15 ft away. I have been in transportation for 25+ years. Unbelievable to me. I have seen people get fired for that, and here they got the "thrower" ? Lol.
 
My wife worked as a postal clerk for several years. She said there were several claims filed through the office where she worked and that almost all were denied.
 
Gastonknife said:
Toured a med size post office the other week. I was surprised to see a position they called "the thrower". That is exactly what he did; throw the boxes and larger envelopes into carts 10 to 15 ft away. I have been in transportation for 25+ years. Unbelievable to me. I have seen people get fired for that, and here they got the "thrower" ? Lol.
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We had a thrower at the main Ohio State campus PO branch. He would turn from his position at the counter and throw packages into the wall opposite so they would drop into the canvas bins. He especially liked to throw packages marked "fragile." This was witnessed over and over by the customers, his co-workers, and the branch manager. Complaints were ignored. I know there was no reply to the polite and factual letter I wrote to the Columbus Postmaster. Eventually, he retired. He was a very visible federal employee influencing the attitudes of young people.

I assume that UPS and FedEx light candles to his memory and to the memory of others of his ilk.

My general impression is that things are better now, but the goal of an insurance system is to generate income while denying claims. Allstate would be a good bad example.
 
That's funny.Throw is just another word for sort. We "throw" mail every day, but not literally.
If you have those 3 items I posted earlier they can not deny your claim!
 
Monofletch said:
That's funny.Throw is just another word for sort. We "throw" mail every day, but not literally.
If you have those 3 items I posted earlier they can not deny your claim!
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Some USPS carrier's "literally" do throw the mail, John! :D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r08N9UPzy10

^ This guy has to be thee most agro employee, in the entire United States Postal System! Could you imagine, if the USPS denied a postal insurance claim against you, & this guy was your carrier... :D
 
Mono I know you are a great guy. So nothing against you, but I would never use the word "thrower" to describe sorting. Sorting should be hand to surface, not hand to air. Ups or fedex, would never condone that behavior, let alone practice.
Just strikes me as funny, when the usps does everything it can to make it difficult to collect a claim for loss or damage; and yet they have"throwers". :eek:

That said still one of the best postage systems in the world, just a little antiquated and overextended due to government interference and excessive pensions that continue to be a drain.
 
Gastonknife said:
That said still one of the best postage systems in the world, just a little antiquated and overextended due to government interference and excessive pensions that continue to be a drain.
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You might not call the pension excessive if you were collecting it.
 
I am not going to get into it further, but it is a proven fact it is a problem. It's why they have gone in the red billions of dollars over the past years. Goes back to political pandering when they were directly under the gov control and the amounts were/are excessive for the position. I guess I would not complain if someone overpaid me either. There are hundreds of articles out there to read, and all one needs to do is review the financials. It not a matter of opinion, it's a fact. Sorry. I'll have no more comments on this, because it is now going off track.
 
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