Is Busse the new Randall?

……. that being said- anything over 7" blade INFI would be my pick.

And what would you need a knife with the blade over 7" for though?
I have a Basic 7 and a Basic 9, great knives, but for the life of me I can’t figure out where to use them.

With all the good things that've been said about Busse Combat, I think Busse knives are the answer to a question that hasn’t been asked.
 
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Every INFI I've had lost its edge rather quickly, the closest comparison geometry wise was the S5 models. 101 stomped infi in edge retention about 6 to 1 -- 5 blades of each were tested. - from factory to different angles- ease of cutting improved while edge retention suffered.

thick edge spines make for tough blades.. our press sheers made of A2 steel cut steel all day everyday, 4-5 thousand 1/4" pieces, I'm sure INFI would suffer the same fate as any other steel that passed though there, that being said- anything over 7" blade INFI would be my pick.

hi, man , "Every INFI I've had lost its edge rather quickly" as you said,
i have few Q here:
1.how did you use your infi knives , can you share your experience with us ?
2.you said inifi lost it's eage rather quickly, what is the reference knives or steels you set , you compared to what knives or steels ?

dingy
 
hi, man , i wanna know that whole of your infi using story , especially i mean this part of "Every INFI I've had lost its edge rather quickly" ,please put some more detailed stuff in . thanks


i often heard some people complained about his busse knife's poor retetion ,but i get nothing from their posts , usually no real experience、no pics ```. just plain complain.


dingy



ps:i asked twl for buying his fragile busse knife in this thread and mailed words to him, but i get nothing from him .

umm well if ya have both S5 models try it out for yourself......other than that, i use them for outdoor general use, and cleaning of game animals... so without pointing fingers and putting names vs names,, lets just take Busse family heat treat-- 154 vs INFI--- 154 will process a whole animal start to finish and be pretty much ok-- INFI-- will not---then the 101 -as said about 6 to 1 edge retention-- and why do ya want me to prove it?
 
And what would you need a knife with the blade over 7" for though?
I have a Basic 7 and a Basic 9, great knives, but for the life of me I can’t figure out where to use them.

With all the good things that've been said about Busse Combat, I think Busse knives are the answer to a question that hasn’t been asked.

load everything you think you might need on a 4- wheel bike for a week 1/2 stay in the Utah mountains in June, you'll find the answer to that question
 
Not to distract anyone from all the squabbling, but this is what I've been using to clean game lately:

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Just a comparatively plain old Buck Vanguard in S30V. I've been happy as a clam with it.
 
Not to distract anyone from all the squabbling, but this is what I've been using to clean game lately:

RubberBucky.jpg


Just a comparatively plain old Buck Vanguard in S30V. I've been happy as a clam with it.


They are nice aren't they? :)
 
I have never seen a knife forum that has redefined what a knife is so completely. Nor have I ever seen such a divided group of individuals that worry so much about the performance of their knives. Then I laugh my butt off when I see something like this:

By cuddling with her cat, woman is found alive after more than three weeks lost in New Mexico forest
by Alex Ballingall on Monday, March 12, 2012 8:23am


As tales of survival go, this one is pretty impressive. A 41-year-old woman named Margaret Page went missing after she and her cat Miya veered off a hiking trail and got lost in the Gila National Forest in New Mexico. As for supplies, she had a bag of pretzels, some cat food and a sleeping bag.

That was more than three weeks ago.

With whipping winds and temperatures dipping below freezing, Page managed to stay alive by huddling with Miya every night in her blue sleeping bag. When rescuers finally found her, Page was emaciated and weak, but well-hydrated. Apparently, she was able to survive on water from a nearby creek.

The cat, meanwhile, remained relatively lively thanks to the spoils of its daily hunting. “Her cat was in better shape than she was,” Marc Levesque of the New Mexico State Police Search and Rescue told the Associated Press.

As her rescuers carried her away to a waiting ambulance, Page’s main concern was the well-being of her cat Miya. Without its body heat and camaraderie, she might never have left that New Mexico forest.


I would be willing to bet she never saw a zombie (much less killed one), chopped wood to make a shelter, split/batoned wood for a fire, tied her knife to a stick for a spear for hunting/fishing/protection, lit a fire with a glob shooting fire steel struck by her high carbon knife, used the special indent on the scales of a knife as a friction fire spindle pivot, punched holes into a car hood or any of the other things we anticipate we might need should we wander off trail.

And she survived in freezing weather for three frickin' weeks!!!

I would never post those comments in another area of this site. If I did, no doubt there would be a lot of hurt feelings. Some prize utility of a knife much, much more than any refinement. And besides, who really knows when their knife may be called to duty for the tasks mentioned above?

Although I am not a huge fan of Randall knives, I certainly love some of their designs. Time tested, refined, and their knives run the gamut of useful and effective hunting knives all the way to that gorgeous fighter you just bought. And never, ever have I heard of a Randall knife failing when being used, even used hard, as a knife.

As noted here, these are two distinctly different companies with two distinctly different audiences.

Robert

P.S.: I'll be watching for the review... :D

I agree and KNOW that you're right about posting this in other forums. I've posted that you don't really need a knife for survival in the W&SS sub-forum and was jumped on for it. People love their knives so much they ignore the reality that there are thousands of people who survive just fine with a SAK classic in weather these weekend knife warriors wouldn't even go into their own backyard in. I'm going to keep posting though. People need a dose of reality whether they like it or not. ;)
 
dingy



ps:i asked twl for buying his fragile busse knife in this thread and mailed words to him, but i get nothing from him .

Check your IM or email.
I responded to your questions over the weekend when I accepted your "friend" request for networking here.
It should be there.

It says the same thing that I have already said on this thread, and I sold the knives many years ago.
 
load everything you think you might need on a 4- wheel bike for a week 1/2 stay in the Utah mountains in June, you'll find the answer to that question

I seriously doubt a $500 Busse chopper would make the list of things I may need out there.
Just my opinion, but a cheap axe would be selected by most people over an expensive chopping knife to address all wood splitting needs, especially if riding an ATV in to the boonies for a week or two. Most of Busse knives strike me more as toys rather than tools (the Basic line to be the exception).
In my opinion, with the existing business model, and the niche product Busse Combat is known for, they will remain a boutique company, which seems to me, they are perfectly happy to be.
 
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Of course--the whole point would be to try to make as close to an apples to apples comparison as possible within the parameters of the experiment. This is all just something I'd be interested in seeing though. Doesn't mean it'll ever happen. :p


I haven't read the entire thread yet, but in this portion of the thread (Post #49), compare a Swamp Rat SR101 model to its correspondingly similar Busse INFI model. You'll get two knives with very similar design, length, weight, thickness, and edge hardness. Yet the steels will be different.

Therefore, the equipment choices for your desired experiment are obtainable.

Oh, sorry...how did I get here in this old thread?
 
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I haven't read the entire thread yet, but in this portion of the thread (Post #49), compare a Swamp Rat SR101 model to its correspondingly similar Busse INFI model. You'll get two knives with very similar design, length, weight, thickness, and edge hardness. Yet the steels will be different.

Therefore, the equipment choices for your desired experiment are obtainable.

Oh, sorry...how did I get here in this old thread?

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I agree and KNOW that you're right about posting this in other forums. I've posted that you don't really need a knife for survival in the W&SS sub-forum and was jumped on for it. People love their knives so much they ignore the reality that there are thousands of people who survive just fine with a SAK classic in weather these weekend knife warriors wouldn't even go into their own backyard in. I'm going to keep posting though. People need a dose of reality whether they like it or not. ;)

The SAK Classic is still a knife.
Not a big knife, but last I checked, it's a knife.
 
My Busse Game Warden didn't impress me with the magical qualities of the steel.
It did not have awesome edge retention.
The edge was not any more impact resistant than most of my other knives.
It did not shine with magical light in the presence of orks either.;)

The handle ergonomics were quite nice, and my dad appreciated it as a present, but it did not live up to the hype some people put forth.
It seemed an awful lot like...a knife, made out of...steel.

Weird!!!
 
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