is the BGASH1 the best Ash for survival use??

nothing against any Ash or either steel, I own and love them all....but a .25 Ash in INFI would be my dream Ash. As for now, my favorite Ash is a .22 LE. The UPS man did drop off a BG today and I will be opening it shortly to check it out.
 
For a survival blade. Considering "a" means one to rule them all then yes I could see anyone of the ASH1's fulfilling this task.
However I would quickly give it a squared 90 degree spine. THEN I would deem it a survival blade. Which thats what I do to most my keeper Busse n Kin.
Despite those claims of it being harder to baton vs the rounded/contoured spine. A 90 degree spine is much more useful to me.

I gladly take a .187 to .25 inch thick ASH1 into a survival situation in either INFI or SR101. Dare I say I'd prefer SR101.
 
I'm surprised no one mentioned the trash 1! Comfy handles that soften blows. Lighter over all weight (not 22 oz)! SR 101. If it was .18 instead of .25, it would be the ultimate light weight yet strong survival knife!!!
 
Meh, SR-101 corrosion is way overthought around here. Unless you plan to store your naked blade in wet salt or some other corrosive material, you aren't going to have anything to worry about. SR-101 corrosion = a little reddish brown dirt on your blade that easily wipes off, not metal eating cancer. It's like bad makeup on your gal... remove it and all is good. ;)
This 1311 is/has been outside on my tractor constantly for over two years of cloudy, rainy, snowy, sleety environment exposure without cleaning, oiling or any other maintenance... I just grab it and beat the rust off with the still intact edge working just fine. It has chopped trees, roots, dug in clay/gravel, and even removed two root balls from a septic tank and is no worse for the wear. INFI is great, but so is SR-101, pick the one you like best and enjoy using it! :D
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Where it stays when not in my hand.
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Thanks for the pics and info Tim. I used to think it rusted if you looked at it. I have a one off I stripped about a month ago that hasn't gotten any oil yet and is still perfect. I don't agree with it holding a better edge than infi but everyone else seems to
 
Lol dare I say there's a bit of an overreaction here --- no one claimed SR-101 would rust upon being gazed on by Teary Wet Eyes ----- but to not admit that INFI would be superior would be silly. Sure on maybe a 5 inch or less blade that's used solely for cutting, one might have some slim grounds to suggest it's better --- but a survival blade that would be a One & Done Survival Blade ---- INFI trumps ;) ---

(That's Was Not. Donald Trump reference -- although the mysteries of his hair are on par with the mysteries of INFI)
 
breavis5694 said:
Thanks for the pics and info Tim. I used to think it rusted if you looked at it. I have a one off I stripped about a month ago that hasn't gotten any oil yet and is still perfect. I don't agree with it holding a better edge than infi but everyone else seems to
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Edge retention is multi faceted as edge blunt in various ways…. i.e. impact vs slow abrasive wear. Rust can also dull an edge, so corrosion resistance does have some importance here also.
 
I'm a fan of sr101 in <8" blades. I just love how sticky the sr101 edges can get when you know what you're doing.

Big, heavy choppers, INFI all the way, no doubt about it. I'd love to get a heat treated bar of INFI 25" x 1" x 5" and make the last blade I'd ever need. Slowly but surely. :)
 
My point was that for an ASH, I doubt anyone would ever know the difference between the two steels in performance, looks yes, performance no. For the blades in the chopper territory yes it becomes more apparent, but a ~6" blade, again, pick the one you like as in reality any ash1 will outlast you and help you through whatever you need to survive. Heck, there's some guys that might even like their women a little on the TRASHy side. ;)
 
AZTimT said:
My point was that for an ASH, I doubt anyone would ever know the difference between the two steels in performance, looks yes, performance no. For the blades in the chopper territory yes it becomes more apparent, but a ~6" blade, again, pick the one you like as in reality any ash1 will outlast you and help you through whatever you need to survive. Heck, there's some guys that might even like their women a little on the TRASHy side. ;)
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Lol well said ---- cheers!!
 
The real answer is get either one you can get your hands on. If I only had a minute to grab a my gear, whatever is closest would get picked without a second thought. Then again I basically sleep with all my knives and guns within arm reach anyway sooo...
 
elof_alv said:
Can you guys stop slamming SR-101 for the lack of corrosion resistance?
Almost every machete in parts of the world where they need machete to live is made out of carbon steel.
99% of bushcraft knives are made out of carbon steels.
Most 'survival' knives are made from carbon steels ( you know, so fire can be stared with a rock and such).

Stainless steels exist for around 100 years, the 2 World Wars were fought with carbon knives & bayonets... And before that some 2000 years + carbon steel (hell, even iron) was good enough to survive... Your continent (and ours) was conquered with carbon steel knives, axes and guns, don't you think that's a good enough reference?

As long as you pay a little bit of attention SR-101 will not just rust away in front of your eyes.
Plus it'll hold edge longer, plus BG ASH is half the price of CG ASH...
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The best way to inhibit rust on sr-101 blades? Use them liberally daily!
 
Maggot Brain said:
Rust can also dull an edge, so corrosion resistance does have some importance here also.
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.... but also lets not over play it mate. With MINIMAL maintenance MOST users will not notice a difference between SR101 and INFI on this front. And yes (clearly) I love my INFI blades (each and every one of them :) :) ),

Where we get stuck (as a group of knife lovers, not just here in the Busse forum by any means) is that being pedantic folk and enthusiasts we like to waaaaay overthink these things. You only have to read a sharpening thread in Maintenance/Tinkering etc to see this in play over and over again. We need to be careful that the technical is not so greatly overplayed vs the PRACTICAL that we loose sight of knives in USE (not our perceptions of that).... just my two cents worth... ;)
 
.32 Fatty. Full height flat grind makes it nice and slicey and the thickness keeps it stout and pretty much unbreakable.
 
RobStanley said:
.32 Fatty. Full height flat grind makes it nice and slicey and the thickness keeps it stout and pretty much unbreakable.
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I have to agree with Rob, I've owned several ash and am waiting on a trash1. I miss my .32 full flat the most. It feels like a stubbie sword, capable of anything.
 
Rob_Mob said:
The BGASH-1 is great --- congrats to all those who scored one. I think it's a little subjective to claim one superior over another for survival needs. I personally would rather the FAT ASH-1 for survival.

The one downfall is corrosion resistance --- which in my eyes, makes the INFI .22 saber ASH-1 and the .32 Fat ASH-1 superior. Just my 2 cents.

You really can't go wrong with any of them --- they're all amazing
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Nailed it!^^^


I still love seeing that zombie green NMSFNO in your pic brother! Good times
 
SR-101 is a GREAT steel-It will provide the User with a long lasting tough TOOL to use when Needed, For people who cannot afford it, or do not wish to spend the Money on INFI it is a great value! Period! SR-101 like any steel has to be maintained just like Infi, It is not however as good as steel OVERALL as INFI, if in Doubt research the articles by the Maker-Patent Pending gentleman who produces it! Mine is better etc gets old after a while. To summarize SR-101 is a great steel, if you have one, or plan to purchase one congratulations! INFI is simply an upgrade! Cheers
 
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