Is the crkt m16-13sf worth buying?

I have both the CRM1603 aluminum handles and a 3.4" plain spear blade and the CRM1612 aluminum handles and a 3.0" plain tanto blade both in AUS8

Both of them are strong well made working knives worth the money (I got them for well under 50).


I got the ones in zytel, which were a disaster and gave them away
 
Josh K said:
Like......? :rolleyes:
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Don't you roll your eyes at me, young man! :D

Okay- for $60? Hmm. For that money you can get into a Spyderco, or a Benchmade, or a Kershaw, or a Buck, or a Boker, or a Case, Boker, Henckels, even GEC. IMO, CRKT makes second-rate knives out of second-rate materials. The M-16 13sf= mall ninja junx. I have several CRKT knives from my younger days, including a M16. They are teh suk. All have been relegated to the "drawer of shame" from whence there is no return.

Does this mean I think somebody is a bad person because they like CRKT? No, it does not. Does this mean I think the good folks at CRKT are poopy heads? Nope, I sure don't. They're just not for me. If other folks enjoy their CRKT knives, that's awesome. In my very slightly informed opinion, there are better choices on the market.
 
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moonwilson said:
In a word- "no".

There are literally a ton of better knives out there for the money.
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I agree. I had one of the first M-16s and it was OK.. but I paid like $75 for it at True Value.. I actually bought it after being (almost) mugged.. another story..

The cool thing was that it was before I cared to care for a knife. I used it for anything and just washed it with the dishes every now and then. When it was dull as a butte rknife, I had it sharpened... until there was almost no sign of serrations. At the time, I thought it was an AWESOME knife.. THIS PLACE has shown me:

It had ridiculous blade play
The pivot came loose allll the time (learn to use loctite)
The blade steel was insufficient
The grind was tooo thick (my preference)
The nylon washers were junk. (stripping the knife revealed they were getting squished & asymmetrical in every way.)
& MOST importantly.. There are sooo many better knives in the same price range... and many USA made!

Everything else I could say would be my unarguably my preference.. I don't like guards/flippers on a POCKET knife.. they get in the way more than help with anything. I don't like folders in a belt sheath/pouch..

I would recommend:
Almost anything from Kershaw.. I like the "Blur" best @ $60
Spyderco Native.. don't let the FRN handles fool you.. they are made form one piece of FRN and are tough as nails w/ S30V steel @ $45
Benchmade Full Size Griptilian.. MANY varieties to choose from @ under $65. $58 for the mini grip. ..the axis lock is toooo much fun.. love it!

Its funny.. I would have rolled my eyes at the recommendation of the Spyderco Native before owning one. It's kinda ugly and plastic-y... I literally MADE myself buy one just because of the "Golden, Colorado, USA, Earth" tang stamp. Now I consider it to be one of the best knives ever made. The execution of the materials is just outstanding. Everyone should own one or more. It is definitely my highest recommended knife of the bunch.
 
I like the Crkt m-16 series a lot, but don't think I would get the special forces version. Too much to pay for it. check out the spyderco 4 stainless steel, great knife for around $60, a much better buy for the price.
 
archieblue said:
I agree. I had one of the first M-16s and it was OK.. but I paid like $75 for it at True Value.. I actually bought it after being (almost) mugged.. another story..

The cool thing was that it was before I cared to care for a knife. I used it for anything and just washed it with the dishes every now and then. When it was dull as a butte rknife, I had it sharpened... until there was almost no sign of serrations. At the time, I thought it was an AWESOME knife.. THIS PLACE has shown me:

It had ridiculous blade play
The pivot came loose allll the time (learn to use loctite)
The blade steel was insufficient
The grind was tooo thick (my preference)
The nylon washers were junk. (stripping the knife revealed they were getting squished & asymmetrical in every way.)
& MOST importantly.. There are sooo many better knives in the same price range... and many USA made!

Everything else I could say would be my unarguably my preference.. I don't like guards/flippers on a POCKET knife.. they get in the way more than help with anything. I don't like folders in a belt sheath/pouch..

I would recommend:
Almost anything from Kershaw.. I like the "Blur" best @ $60
Spyderco Native.. don't let the FRN handles fool you.. they are made form one piece of FRN and are tough as nails w/ S30V steel @ $45
Benchmade Full Size Griptilian.. MANY varieties to choose from @ under $65. $58 for the mini grip. ..the axis lock is toooo much fun.. love it!

Its funny.. I would have rolled my eyes at the recommendation of the Spyderco Native before owning one. It's kinda ugly and plastic-y... I literally MADE myself buy one just because of the "Golden, Colorado, USA, Earth" tang stamp. Now I consider it to be one of the best knives ever made. The execution of the materials is just outstanding. Everyone should own one or more. It is definitely my highest recommended knife of the bunch.
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There is much wisdom in this post. My experience almost exactly matches this. And a big +1 on the S30V Native. It is far superior to any CRKT offering, and is probably as much knife as anyone really NEEDS.
 
$60 is too much for the crkt m16-13sf but someone is offering me one for $46.00. Is it worth $46.00?

If I buy it I will probably sand and buff off the black coating on the blade.

I looked in to a BM griptillian but it is too thick for discreet carry. I like to carry a folder in a thin sheath in the front pocket.
 
Josh K said:
It's not "tacticool." It's a very well built hard use knife. It works well for SD as well. Not as well as say a Spyderco Military, but well enough. It's an overbuilt knife, similar to Emerson knives, although I'd have to say 154CM is better then AUS-8.

It takes a great edge, easy to resharpen, and it won't chip like some S30V type steels. The edge tends to bend, rather then chip or break. I've done some testing with my M21-SFG (8Cr13MoV, not AUS-8, but very similar) and it takes concrete hits like a pro. 10 minutes on my Lansky and it's back shaving hair.
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Um...what?

This ugly thing is as tacticool as it gets. Notice the tanto point and completely unnecessary dual flippers,both to guard against katana attacks and to assure that you do not push the knife completely through your adversary during a stab attack.

Also, say what you want about AUS-8, the CRKT version of it is ridiculously awful.

For $60, get something from a quality brand...Kershaw, Benchmade, Spyderco, etc. There is a reason that CRKT is panned here, and the others...not so much.
 
archieblue said:
I agree. I had one of the first M-16s and it was OK.. but I paid like $75 for it at True Value.. I actually bought it after being (almost) mugged.. another story..

The cool thing was that it was before I cared to care for a knife. I used it for anything and just washed it with the dishes every now and then. When it was dull as a butte rknife, I had it sharpened... until there was almost no sign of serrations. At the time, I thought it was an AWESOME knife.. THIS PLACE has shown me:

It had ridiculous blade play
The pivot came loose allll the time (learn to use loctite)
The blade steel was insufficient
The grind was tooo thick (my preference)
The nylon washers were junk. (stripping the knife revealed they were getting squished & asymmetrical in every way.)
& MOST importantly.. There are sooo many better knives in the same price range... and many USA made!

Everything else I could say would be my unarguably my preference.. I don't like guards/flippers on a POCKET knife.. they get in the way more than help with anything. I don't like folders in a belt sheath/pouch..

I would recommend:
Almost anything from Kershaw.. I like the "Blur" best @ $60
Spyderco Native.. don't let the FRN handles fool you.. they are made form one piece of FRN and are tough as nails w/ S30V steel @ $45
Benchmade Full Size Griptilian.. MANY varieties to choose from @ under $65. $58 for the mini grip. ..the axis lock is toooo much fun.. love it!

Its funny.. I would have rolled my eyes at the recommendation of the Spyderco Native before owning one. It's kinda ugly and plastic-y... I literally MADE myself buy one just because of the "Golden, Colorado, USA, Earth" tang stamp. Now I consider it to be one of the best knives ever made. The execution of the materials is just outstanding. Everyone should own one or more. It is definitely my highest recommended knife of the bunch.
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Wow...it is almost like I typed this myself.

Well stated.
 
The one thing I do like a lot about the m-16 is that it has a cool opening system. It is probably the most easy knife to open with the flipper. On that note a spyderco would be a better knife, but I would spend $30 for one of the m-16 series, just not the special forces version.
 
I have an M16-01T. Plain edge with titanium handles. This is a great knife. The steel is fine, not my favorite. Bottom line, it holds an edge very well and resharpens easily. IMO, worth the money.

Jay
 
CRKT makes cool looking knives, not necessarily cool functioning knives. If they were made in the US and out of better materials then they would be just fine IMHO
when i first started collecting, i bought multiple CRKTs but i hav since moved up in the world
 
Other than a few cheap, tiny slipjoints, the first knife i spent my hard earned money on (after receiving a KISS in the dark as a gift) was the m16 13sf. Damn that knife looked cool at the time.... haha. I carried it for a while, and have since learned to dislike: the dual flipper system, partial serrations, chisel grinds, tanto points, black coatings and slick aluminum handles. All of which are on your knife. I do like the slim profile in the pocket, but the two flippers make it practically catch on everything (tip down), and if you drop it, it opens most of the time. I have since split my pocket time with a couple byrds (which i really do feel are at LEAST equal to CRKT in terms of quality feel), and a fullsize spyderco manix, spyd D2 Military, boker wharcom (pretty neat). I wish someone had told ME to get a native or endura or something instead.

DC
 
Tripton said:
Um...what?

This ugly thing is as tacticool as it gets. Notice the tanto point and completely unnecessary dual flippers,both to guard against katana attacks and to assure that you do not push the knife completely through your adversary during a stab attack.

Also, say what you want about AUS-8, the CRKT version of it is ridiculously awful.

For $60, get something from a quality brand...Kershaw, Benchmade, Spyderco, etc. There is a reason that CRKT is panned here, and the others...not so much.
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Tanto designs are only frowned upon because they are over made by cheap asian (Read: China) countries in cheap steel (Read: pot metal or worse). Katana attacks? Where the do you live that you think a hilt on a knife is for blocking katana attacks? Give it a rest please. :yawn: The hilt is innovative. The double flipper, plus an open design make it slip free. You're never going to run your hand down the knife onto the blade. People could say the same thing about Spyderco. "What the hell do you need a big round hole in the blade for?" :rolleyes:

Granted it's not very useful unless you're making hard vertical "stabbing" type cuts, but it does the job admirably.

I'm not saying I wouldn't recommend a Benchmade or Spyderco over this knife, but he's asking for a recommendation on this knife, not asking for alternatives.
 
moonwilson said:
... I have several CRKT knives from my younger days, including a M16. They are teh suk. All have been relegated to the "drawer of shame" from whence there is no return.
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If you are really ashamed of your CRKT knives I will send you my address and pay the shipping so you can send all of your dreadful "Hall of Shame" knives to me!:)

I carried a M16-13SF for a while. I liked it as a work knife though the rear fliipper did get in the way. There are better knives out there in an objective sense, but most people are subjective when it comes to knives and what appeals to me might not appeal to you. If you like it, buy it and use it. After a while you will decide you want something else no matter what you get.:)
 
The crkt m-16 zytel is the only knife I actually returned because it sucked soo hard!!! Up and down and side to side blade play not sharp and slow deploying!! And IMO the auto lawks is just there to make up for a shitty liner with poor tollerances !!! A well designed liner lock need no stinking auto lawks!!!
 
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Nuke_Spook said:
If you are really ashamed of your CRKT knives I will send you my address and pay the shipping so you can send all of your dreadful "Hall of Shame" knives to me!:)

I carried a M16-13SF for a while. I liked it as a work knife though the rear fliipper did get in the way. There are better knives out there in an objective sense, but most people are subjective when it comes to knives and what appeals to me might not appeal to you. If you like it, buy it and use it. After a while you will decide you want something else no matter what you get.:)
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The Ti M16's are nice.

I carry an older zytel M16 that I've had for years now in my work truck , it see's plenty of use for nasty work and was well worth the 30-ish I paid for it , I bought the same model for my Jarhead buddy to use on the job and he loves his.

I dont like all the netgeek abbreviations but YMMV :D


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