Is the Russian Bear for you?

As an American patriot I won't give money to support Russia or Russians.
They have been our sworn enemies for a long time.

There are too many non tainted great knives produced here to to fall for Shiros.
 
brownshoe said:
If you want a flipper that looks good try Zeiba knives. Made in Brooklyn, M390, Ti, and less than $700; you can afford to carry it. They also look good, particularly with the 24K gold plated spacer. I have an S1-mini. Yes I use it, don't have a safe anyway :)
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Edit: Disclaimer - updated information, it seems Zieba truly does everything by himself. There is no China connection.


I have heard several people claiming the the Zeiba knives are using parts that are manufactured in China. I am not saying this is true, I have no idea if it is or not.

The guy who told me claimed that the Chinese counterfeit market had released a Zeiba model that was not only exactly the same as the official ones but they released this particular model even before Zeiba did.

I have literally zero proof one way or another, just was curious if anyone knew definitively one way or another. Has anyone else heard of this? Does someone have something to say about it definitively?
 
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In the past week it seems like I have noticed more shiros on the exchange than usual. I thought about picking one up from there but then I came across the warranty situation in the gb&u, so that kinda has been a hold up for me. I would love to try one though, just to see if they are as good as the hype.
 
If they had a warranty service in the states I bet they'd win a lot more business.

Phenomenal knives.. But cost of original purchase and possible warranty trips can turn people off.

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I think Hinderer knives are quite good looking. So many blade shapes, something must tickle your fancy.
 
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Can't say I have tried a shiro and do say I want to try one, but find it hard to believe they can be better than custom flippers for a similar price range. But you never know until you try one.
 
linuxology said:
Can't say I have tried a shiro and do say I want to try one, but find it hard to believe they can be better than custom flippers for a similar price range. But you never know until you try one.
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You never know...! If you’re more of a traditionalist, try one on washers. They’re eerily smooth.
 
Guys call me a hypocrite and a dumba$$ but I bought a Hinderer instead..I've decided that for whats in the "flipper" market..Hindy seemed like a solid bet. My only concern is carrying 5.2oz give or take around in my pocket all day ..but hey the sebenza comes in a nearly 4.7-5oz so hopefully I won't notice any difference!
 
leafblade said:
As an American patriot I won't give money to support Russia or Russians.
They have been our sworn enemies for a long time.

There are too many non tainted great knives produced here to to fall for Shiros.
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That's hilarious.
 
Watch what you say leafblade,

I think there may be Russians in this thread, right now as we speak! They are here to spy and try to steal what makes America great!

Watch out, they have already developed blue jeans.
 
Lapedog said:
Watch what you say leafblade,

I think there may be Russians in this thread, right now as we speak! They are here to spy and try to steal what makes America great!

Watch out, they have already developed blue jeans.
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My god...they are learning ..
 
Aquaholicc said:
I have no doubt I will be impressed. I'll post a little review once it's at my door step
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Hope it works out, lots of praise for Hinderers. Just some warning though (not about the knife): expecting to be impressed will skew your impressions, and can cause false hype that will make you feel "meh" once it wears off. I have experienced this many times, just a heads up! (Goes for all products)
 
Lapedog said:
...I have literally zero proof one way or another, just was curious if anyone knew definitively one way or another. Has anyone else heard of this? Does someone have something to say about it definitively?
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If you don't have proof, don't spread the rumor. What you just said is severely damaging to a man's business, why not delete it?

What you repeated is exactly what a knifemaker who doesn't have the chops to compete with him would say. His knives' quality is much better than many custom makers. He has an artistic flair, many knife makers would be jealous of. Not many people have his combination of design, technology, machinist and artistic skills. Plus his knives work as cutting tools as well :)

I asked Zieba about his construction methods. He does it himself, parts, grinds and assembly. I didn't question him about details and forgot to ask about heat treat. I was talking to another flipper maker at the show, he said Zieba even makes the nice plastic boxes his knives are packaged in. The space he works in has other companies, artists, etc. in the same space. Plus he's part of a "Brooklyn-made" group. Per this other maker, he has access to plastic injection mold technology so "he even makes those fancy boxes and label himself."
 
Aquaholicc said:
Guys call me a hypocrite and a dumba$$ but I bought a Hinderer instead..I've decided that for whats in the "flipper" market..Hindy seemed like a solid bet. My only concern is carrying 5.2oz give or take around in my pocket all day ..but hey the sebenza comes in a nearly 4.7-5oz so hopefully I won't notice any difference!
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If Shirogorov and Hinderer were the same price I would still stick with Hinderer. All I really want in my knives is a very well made working man's knife. If Shirogorov were in the States it would be much tougher.
 
I got to try a bunch of flipper knives at the USN event in Vegas. Shiro was very good, but not worth the price imo. Hinderer was the worst. Begg Steelcraft Mini Bodega and Viper Storm were the best value imo.
 
archieblue said:
If Shirogorov and Hinderer were the same price I would still stick with Hinderer. All I really want in my knives is a very well made working man's knife. If Shirogorov were in the States it would be much tougher.
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That's what I'm hoping for my friend. I'll convince myself for now that Shiro is just a nice "gentlemans" flipper.
LastRodeo said:
I got to try a bunch of flipper knives at the USN event in Vegas. Shiro was very good, but not worth the price imo. Hinderer was the worst. Begg Steelcraft Mini Bodega and Viper Storm were the best value imo.
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Raining on the parade!
 
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