Is the Shaman a PM2 Killer?

I think if one prefers the compression lock tonthe bb-lock then the Shaman is more of a Manix2 killer if anything.
 
Mo2 said:
Haters gonna hate.

Anyways NickShabazz NickShabazz is on the forum. Maybe he can help explain to those who take every thing someone says as gospel.
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not hating. i just ignore odd comments from youtubers that make no sense. i doubt nick would be mad on some one disagreeing with him and seeing his thought process as odd on a topic. if he did he wouldnt survive on youtube. learn to accept others opinions as opinions..... not always being hate. you young'ins always amaze me.
 
OP here. This is a tangent, but because some of you have mentioned locking mechanisms, I'm going to partially disagree with a bunch of you and take a very minority point of view here: out of the framelock, liner lock, ball bearing lock, compression lock, and mid-back lock, I prefer the last one the most. (I even sent back a Manix2 because that ball bearing lock was so damned stiff and hard to operate.) it's not so easy for me to get my fingers out of the way of the blade with the compression lock, so if I had to judge a knife based purely on locking mechanism alone, I'd choose my Manix 2 mid back lock; I never feel like I'm going to cut myself, and there's never any stick of any sort. The only lock that rivals the compression lock for me personally is the axis lock, which has the downside of being kind of rough on your thumb due to the aggressive knurling.
 
Considering the comparable (normal g10 and s30v) models are about $70 different, I'd say no.
 
I think he might’ve been referring to popularity more than functionality. I don’t believe there is ever a reason for a solid working knife to be “killed” by another: each knife has its own profile, ergonomics, slicing surface, functionality, etc.
 
I think that the PM2, Manix ll,the Domino and Shaman are different but then again have alot of similarities. The all make great EDC knives, each with their pro's and con, but the con's are basically nitpicking.
The main differences are the amount of real estate they take up in your pocket. I like all 4 and own all 4 but the truth is I am waiting for the steel upgrades for the Shaman. The bottom line is that they are all amazing knives and considering that these will last a lifetime if you care for them and don't lose them. All these are great candidates for the job.
 
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bh49 said:
No.
They are very different knives for very different tasks. Shaman is heavy duty and Para in my book is something between slicer and heavy duty. Also with $180 price tag on base model Shaman will have harder time to compete. I am happy that I bought mine for only :rolleyes: $150. I certainly love Shaman more than Para. But I do nor see in the near future much use for any of them. N5 and caly3 can do everything what I need.
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I also would recommend the S30V Manix ll and a pair of custom CF scales. it's one of my favorite EDC carry knives.
 
If you've held both, I'm really not sure how you can even call them similar other than the lock and manufacturer. I don't see the PM2 ship sinking for this knife.
 
Alchemy1 said:
They are 2 different knives with 2 different purposes in mind. I’ve owned 20+ PM2’s and I now only have one. They’re okay, but I personally prefer the Shaman. Now at $180...I’m not as eager to buy. The steel thing will sort itself out. Sal has already said this will be a model that is turned into a sprint bed also.

I compare the Shaman to an SnG. Which is one of my favorite knives, period.

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Like the Strider, is the Shaman most comfortable holding it by the forward choil?
 
I see the $180 price point thrown around a lot, but that’s the minimum ADVERTISED price. I don’t completely understand it, but I do know that on certain websites if you add it to cart, it changes the price to around $165, if my memory serves. Not sure if they support the forum or if they’re allowed to have a lower price, but I have seen it from a few knife stores.
 
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The reason I made that statement is that for me, Spyderco's got a nice continuum of knives from "Light use" (e.g. Chaparral FRN or Delica), to more strenuous (e.g. Native 5, Manix, GB2), to harder use. The harder use end was historically sort of handled by the PM2. But given the Shaman's vastly superior ergos and blade shape for that kind of task, for me, I'd now recommend the Shaman in that role all day everyday. And I'm not sure who I'd recommend the PM2 to, given the excellence of the Native and Shaman to either side. People will still love the PM2, it is lighter, and it's still perhaps a better generalist than the Shaman, but I think if you're going to have a few knives for a few roles, the Shaman's a better choice on the "beater folder" end.

That said, Spyderco's choosing to massively hike the price shortly after release is a huge turd in the Shaman's punchbowl, and had my videos come out *after* the price hike, I wouldn't have made that comment. The Shaman is a knife that most PM2 buyers should consider at $15 more, but for $45 more, it's harder to say "Oh just get a Shaman instead". Which the cynic in me thinks could be the justification for the price hike.
 
NickShabazz said:
The reason I made that statement is that for me, Spyderco's got a nice continuum of knives from "Light use" (e.g. Chaparral FRN or Delica), to more strenuous (e.g. Native 5, Manix, GB2), to harder use. The harder use end was historically sort of handled by the PM2. But given the Shaman's vastly superior ergos and blade shape for that kind of task, for me, I'd now recommend the Shaman in that role all day everyday. And I'm not sure who I'd recommend the PM2 to, given the excellence of the Native and Shaman to either side. People will still love the PM2, it is lighter, and it's still perhaps a better generalist than the Shaman, but I think if you're going to have a few knives for a few roles, the Shaman's a better choice on the "beater folder" end.

That said, Spyderco's choosing to massively hike the price shortly after release is a huge turd in the Shaman's punchbowl, and had my videos come out *after* the price hike, I wouldn't have made that comment. The Shaman is a knife that most PM2 buyers should consider at $15 more, but for $45 more, it's harder to say "Oh just get a Shaman instead". Which the cynic in me thinks could be the justification for the price hike.
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thanks for clarifying your statement. always better to hear it straight from the horses mouth.
 
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