Is this fake?

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So, a while back I traded for a lightly used emerson cqc7b with no wave.

Not knowing much about emersons, I trusted the other guy and believed it to be real.

Fast forward to today, now I sold it to a member of another knife forum, and he PM's me saying its a fake.

That pisses me off because I trusted that guy.

So here is my question is it fake?

Pic:

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Everything about it screams emerson except for 2 things that I noticed off the bat.

Its polished and no emerson logo.

The member I sold it to also states this:

1. The lanyard hole was not metal.
2. The bottom inside edge of the blade is a slow cut instead of a drop, like a true CQC-7B
3. No emerson markings.
4. Weird metal finishing on bottom of blade.
5. Thumb screw is wrong color.

Im not to sure about what he meant by #2 and #4 could be patina.

but Im not to sure about the others.

Thanks for the input.

I hope its not a fake.

Thanks!
 
Looks like a Emerson with a polished blade, which isn't terribly uncommon. You have any better pics.
 
zackfraser said:
Looks like a Emerson with a polished blade, which isn't terribly uncommon.
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That's what I was thinking.

What kind of handle screws does it have? Most of the fakes have torx. Best I can tell from your pic they look like phillips, which are OEM Emerson.
 
The screws are not torx, I remember because I took it apart alot to wash off the dirt and to lube it. And right now it is sold to a member who is thinking about sending it back to me for a refund because he thinks its a fake for the reasons above.

Pics I took before I sent it off:

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I would take more but its in the hands of another guy :]
 
Does it have a secondary detent on the opposite side of the locking liner?

Are the handle screws countersunk?
 
Hey guys. I am the guy who bought this and here are my concerns. I have handled Emerson knives and can tell you right off is just doesn't feel right. Also below I will list some issues that make me suspicious. Here is a good youtube video that has some up close shots to help reference as well. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=emZNK_j_VWU

Issues I see:
1. The handle just doesn't feel right and the texture seems to be flat and not what I remember of the Emerson. Even on the you tube video you can see the texture on the handles, which are way better than this one.
2. The screw and thumb stud itself is black on all the CQC-7's I saw with a rounded screw used to hold it in place. This one uses a flat head Grey screw with a grey thumb stud.
3. I can think of no reason other than being a factory second that the blade would not be marked by Emerson, both the logo area and under the thumb screw. The blade does not show an different wear pattern from it being removed and anything of that sort.
4. The metal frame itself is wrong from what I've seen and even the youtube video comments on. In the video you can see that the lock side is 20-40% wider than the none lock side. This one is the same size on both frame sides.
5. The grain of the blade on the top is not what I have seen, and the bottom does not have any grind mark at all moving perpendicular to the blade. It actually has some sort of spots and weird texture I haven't seen before.

If one of you guys want this let me know. As oppose to you buying it from him I will just send it directly to you. HOWEVER my concerns have been noted and if this turns out to be a knock off do not come to me complaining.

I paid $60 so first one to tell me they want it gets it.
 
Does Emerson make them with the clip set up for tip down carry like this one? I've only seen them set for tip up.
 
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From the website the handle screws appear to have flat tops, those in the photo appear to be rounded. I'm by no means an expert, just observing differences.

It may be legit with a polish job to make it sterile and aftermarket screws. Have you pulled it apart to check the ball detent on the non lock side?
 
There is noithing that really shouts fake on that knife, the clip set up (is it tapped for both or just tip down ?) and screws make it look more like a BM-7 to me but it could be a franken knife with swapped out bits. The blade has been given a satin finish so it's possible they used other pieces.

Pics of the whole knife with a pic of the liners and as mentioned the detent set up would make it much easier to say for sure.
 
I believe in 2005 Emerson started using the flat head phillips screws. Prior to that they used a dome shaped phillip head. The thumb disk was bead blasted on the one in picture and the blade refinished. Great looking knife and a super deal for the $60.
 
Due to the thumb disk being "silver" (not black) and the angle of the tip it looks like some of my 1998 and 1999 CQC-7's. The blade while now having a hand "satin" finish looks like one of the true beadblast blades that I myself have "hand satined" Smoother handles (g10) was the standard back then. They were not made as textured as the one's are today. I would have not a second thought about saying it IS an Emerson.
 
Diverliam said:
Does Emerson make them with the clip set up for tip down carry like this one? I've only seen them set for tip up.
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My first Emerson was a 2000 CQC-7B. It is drilled and tapped for both tip up and tip down carry.

Also, the G10 is much smoother on the 2000 than on the more recent models that I own. The liners are the same width on both the locking and non-locking side.
 
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