Is this tooling mark normal?

NYOutdoors said:
I am not faulting Busse for one thing but selling a knife as factory new condition with a blemish of that magnitude. I understand that I chose to use a 3rd party for custom work and KalEl did a great job. It's certainly not at all his fault.

ESEE, Becker (ka bar) both quickly come to mind as companies that could not give a rats ass if you strip the coating and polish the blade. They will warranty it and stand behind it regardless of that, and I have personal experience sending in stripped knives to them for warranty or repair with not even the slightest peep about it. Head over to the Becker sub forum or ESEE website forum and you will see millions of stripped knives.
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NYOutdoors said:
Hey man, I realize what those knife companies state on their websites, but my personal experience and the experiences I've seen here on BF tells me they don't care at all. I don't really care if Busse would hold up a warranty on this because I don't plan on breaking a 1/4" thick knife anytime...ever. It's more the principle of it. It's also a matter of principle that I don't expect really deep, long, rough tooling marks (or whatever it is) on a knife that cost hundreds of dollars. I have 7 fixed blades from ESEE and Becker that I have stripped, and I've never found anything like this. These companies make coated knives for cheaper than Busse but don't have massive tooling marks. That's why it irks me...that's all. Not trying to be a pain here, I originally started the thread just to find out if this was normal because I have knives hundreds of dollars cheaper that don't use steel with marks like that on it.
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So, have you sent pics to Busse to ask them what they think was the cause, or if there is anything they might be willing to do?
 
Hey Robert,

Im really sorry to hear that the mark is giving you grief. Unfortunately custom scales can't really but done on coated blades because the fit will not be perfect. Busse actually fits all their scales to the individual knife by hand before they are coated and then rivets them on after they are coated.

Here is a better picture of the mark. I did the best I could to get it out but It just wasn't possible without messing up the grind. Maybe if you keep it you will grow to like it over time.

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knife hunter said:
So, have you sent pics to Busse to ask them what they think was the cause, or if there is anything they might be willing to do?
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I've contacted Busse to ask, not demanding anything or giving them a hard time. Again, I'm not attacking the company, I'm was only asking if it was normal and if I should be worried. Am I disappointed? A little. I'm feeling like I'm getting some responses that have an edge to them like I'm trying to attack Busse. Please understand I was coming here for advice and answers from people who have seen and used Busse knives much more than me.
 
I would not and do not expect a double cut or le level of finish under the coating. I expect Infi dimples and minor tooling marks. But that gouge would bother me. I think it should on a $250 knife. I can't think of any blade maker in that price range who could get away with that. The fact that it was covered by the coating means it's very shallow and not likely to be structural. Would you be fine with a gouge like that under the finish of anything but a Busse? I don't think so. However I don't think it's a warranty issue either. Just should not have left the shop. It would have taken litterly 5 minutes to surface grind the blade. I mean it's not a $50-$100 knife.
All that being said I would either use the carp out of it of very carefully grind it out with a xx course MDT. It looks very shallow and I have no doubt the knife will survive anything I would do with it. It is a Busse after all.
 
KalEl said:
Hey Robert,

Im really sorry to hear that the mark is giving you grief. Unfortunately custom scales can't really but done on coated blades because the fit will not be perfect. Busse actually fits all their scales to the individual knife by hand before they are coated and then rivets them on after they are coated.

Here is a better picture of the mark. I did the best I could to get it out but It just wasn't possible without messing up the grind. Maybe if you keep it you will grow to like it over time.

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Hey man, nothing you did wrong. You did an amazing job and you have no fault in this. I love the knife. The mark disappoints me but that is not your doing.
 
NYOutdoors said:
I've contacted Busse to ask, not demanding anything or giving them a hard time. Again, I'm not attacking the company, I'm was only asking if it was normal and if I should be worried. Am I disappointed? A little. I'm feeling like I'm getting some responses that have an edge to them like I'm trying to attack Busse. Please understand I was coming here for advice and answers from people who have seen and used Busse knives much more than me.
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No sir. No edge here. Atleast not intended. It is the nature of print cause my southern charm, dazzling good looks, and smile dont come across;):D

I can understand everything you stated except for a couple of the blanket statements, which I am occassionaly guilty of too, that I felt compelled to address. THats all.:cool:

Give em a call and hopefully all will be good.:thumbup:
 
That's a great looking knife! I saw $250 thrown around. I'll tl you what... I'll take it!! That should solve all the problems. ;) o::::{:;;;;::::::::>
 
It's combat grade. Acceptable to me for sure. It's a beauty mark and i think it looks cool, and if i had the scratch this week i would take it off your hands and beat it like it owed me money.
 
Part 1: Dude, those are some AWESOME scales... i like!

Part 2: Yeah, the machine mark would bug me unless it was going to be a user, in which case, it wouldn't bug me a bit.
 
abizzybomb said:
That's a big scar! It's like the Capone of blades. It's kinda sweet but, I think it'd bother me...
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Boom! Perfect nick name!

Scarface!


Or maybe just Capone!


Crap, none of mine have bitching nick names!
 
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Should have surface ground (flooded with water) an equal amount off of each side of the blade until scar was gone before putting such nice slabs on it. imo
 
SaguaroKid said:
Should have surface ground (flooded with water) an equal amount off of each side of the blade until scar was gone before putting such nice slabs on it. imo
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Another customized did that with a Ash1cg, and turned it into the best looking sabergrind satin ash1.
 
I am convinced that Jerry Busse would take care of this problem immediately. I had a problem and almost fell off my seat when I got a call from him to resolve the problem. HE CARES.

For those of you who followed my previous problem, Jerry saw no problem sending me 2" x 2" pieces of matching matching handle material for a backyard/DYI project I was working on. :)
 
Goldsmithy said:
I am convinced that Jerry Busse would take care of this problem immediately. I had a problem and almost fell off my seat when I got a call from him to resolve the problem. HE CARES.

For those of you who followed my previous problem, Jerry saw no problem sending me 2" x 2" pieces of matching matching handle material for a backyard/DYI project I was working on. :)
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Glad to see that one resolved. Jerry is good people.
 
No way that scratch will affect the steels strength.

I can understand how you feel a bit bummed that you put on beautiful new handles and then have the scratch.

If it was mine I'd make that scratch into a very thin "blood groove" and add a matching groove the the other side.
 
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that mark and the wood handle both looks cool, and mark is not a pro for the function , man.
 
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