Photos Is your modern knife traditionnal enough?

[Jack Black]

When I'm a guest in someone's house, I try to follow the rules and expectations of the owners.
If I do something that gets a negative reaction, I'll feel bad and try not to do that again.
If I don't like the rules or expectations set forth, I just won't go back for another visit.
There are plenty of other places I can go.

Well put

 

[Jack Black]

Edit: This thread was made to see other members gentleman/hybrids knives... not to start a debate/war about the existence of theses knives... If an admin/mod want to delete/move the thread because it goes against the rules or upset too many traditionnal knives members, i don't mind... in my eyes, they are a modern version of a traditionnal pattern but i'll understand if you want to keep this subforum "clean" for true traditionnal knives!

You're really getting tiresome now, and rather arrogant

 

[Heimdall82]

One of these doesn't even claim to be a Barlow, and as well as lacking a Barlow bolster, it has a modern liner-lock (hence a rather provocative post).

You must talk about the Fallkniven, i must agree it doesn't get a barlow bolster (1/3 of the handle) but i've seen some people calling it a "modern barlow", must be because of the general shape.

Why don't you spend a little time learning about the pattern, that thread is a good place to start?

Don't worry about my culture... i know enough about barlows and what's make a barlow... but maybe you could educate some knifemaker! hahaha (i'm pointing at you Boker!)

Please understand that someone comes along every six months, and posts a thread like this, a discussion which could have been posted in General, without any of the rules you seem to find restrictive here. The issues you raise are not new ones for posters here, it is a subject that has been rather 'done to death', and which some here will find rather tiresome. Moreover, such discussions tend to be fractious. Why not take it to General?

If post get removed of moved in other subforum, it's hard to know they have been talking about... When you try to make a search, 90% of what's pop up are sale post... We don't even know how to call that category of knives yet... make it harder to find post talking about them...

The rules are clear enough for the vast majority of posters here, and while they may have been written some time ago, and were also once more strictly enforced, they are still current and applicable. There have always been knives, which, for one reason or another, fell foul of those rules.

Rules says it's not about material, but pattern... i know what a "true traditionnal" is, just not sure where theses one belongs, i know they are not "pure traditionnals" but in that case, SAK are multitools... fixed blade shouldn't be counted as traditionnals too, Case Kickstarter, most of the RRR (i mean... a Canoe pattern with a tanto blade? seriously?), and a lot more shouldn't be here too... There's definitly a grey area... and it looks like you can't talk about it in that subforum...

 

[Heimdall82]

You're really getting tiresome now, and rather arrogant

Again, it was not the case... i just stated this post was made to see other peoples hybrids... not start a war. It's the problem when you write something... some people get upset depending how they read the sentence... i'm not pointing at anyone here, i just read the entire post and members seems to says the "hybrids" doesn't deserve to be here. If so, then i'm really sorry for all the troubles and will not be upset if the mods delete the post because anyway it's becoming a debate and it wasn't the intention at all... it was supposed to be a "Photo post"! hahaha

 

[Jack Black]

You must talk about the Fallkniven, i must agree it doesn't get a barlow bolster (1/3 of the handle) but i've seen some people calling it a "modern barlow", must be because of the general shape.

Then those people know very little about traditional patterns, and you would be better looking elsewhere for your knowledge.

Don't worry about my culture... i know enough about what's a barlow...

But you very clearly don't!

but maybe you could educate some knifemaker!

I have

If post get removed of moved in other subforum, it's hard to know they have been talking about... When you try to make a search, 90% of what's pop up are sale post... We don't even know how to call that category of knives yet... make it harder to find post talking about them...

Good grief, you are hard work. I'm sure there are plenty of people in General, who will know what you're talking about, so long as you don't start using silly phrases like 'Gentlemen's Knives'. I'm sure there are also people there who will be happy to bitch and moan about the rules here too.

Rules says it's not about material, but pattern... i know what a "true traditionnal" is, just not sure where theses one belongs, i know they are not "pure traditionnals" but in that case, SAK are multitools... fixed blade shouldn't be counted as traditionnals too, Case Kickstarter, most of the RRR (i mean... a Canoe pattern with a tanto blade? seriously?), and a lot more shouldn't be here too... There's definitly a grey area... and it looks like you can't talk about it in that subforum...

I'm sorry, but you can't even spell Traditional SAKS have always been accepted here, just like Horseman's Knives, Scout Knives, and true Lobster patterns. Fixed blades are much older than folding knives. I'm trying not to use the 'S' word, but I think you're being a little obtuse. The rules generally work perfectly well here, except for people who come here to find fault with them. If you want to moan about the various forum and sub-forum rules here on BF, you should post in the Technical sub-forum, where such matters are often discussed.

 

[Peregrin]

knarfeng
OK, this thread is spiraling into a peeing match, and enough is enough. I let it run because the questions get asked all the time. If you take the time to read the guidelines and peruse some threads, it should be evident what we like to see here and what we don't like to see.

The hard fast rules are no thumb studs and no pocket clips, no OHO, slip joint construction (I'm generalizing and am not going to get in the weeds on this). Newer materials, screws etc don't disqualify a knife. If you post one side of a knife that has a pocket clip, but is otherwise a traditional pattern I'm not going to go searching model numbers to see what might be hidden from view.

Do we see and/or react to every errant post? No way! I got a life, Frank has a life and there's a ton of traffic in this sub forum. We do the best we can, and have been doing it for about 11 years. Yes, we're masochists! We do it because we love you guys!

I'm not saying this thread doesn't belong here, and I don't think the OP started it to cause a problem. If it was moved somewhere else the folks that might benefit from seeing it might never see it. I do think it's run it's course, and since the OP was pondering on deleting it, I'm going to close it.