Isn there anyone at Buck that checks the quality of the knives anymore ?

Razorblades was talking about sending SEVERAL knives to Jerad.

Jerad mentions ONE and does not say what was wrong with it.

No......that's not an answer to the question at all.

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BG42EDGE said:
Razorblades was talking about sending SEVERAL knives to Jerad.

Jerad mentions ONE and does not say what was wrong with it.

No......that's not an answer to the question at all.

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+1 I can't imagine why all the secrecy? :confused:

Since the OP was not out fishing (or if he was, he had internet access) when he posted about getting the knives back and fixed, why on earth is there such reluctance to posting the problem found or the fix?
 
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This thread is still going on. Lets see what else I can complain about:yawn:. Oh ya, I had too much oil on my 110 blade when I bought it, isn't there QC watching these things:rolleyes:
 
As curious as I am about any issues that Jared found related to blade play, I'm happy to wait until Jeff (or a Buck spokesperson) comes back on this. Jared just told us that he reported his findings to Jeff, which is super appropriate for him to do. I also think it's entirely appropriate for him to let Jeff (or another official spokesperson) to give a full read out on any play issues once they're done looking things over. I wouldn't characterize Jared's silence as "secrecy". If Buck was digging in their heels (they aren't, just the opposite), then I think Jared would be justified in telling us what he found, as other knife mechanics have in other threads (worn bushing, worn pins, worn blade/lockbar faces). Until then, I think Jared is doing the right thing reporting his findings and letting Buck speak for Buck.
 
pinnah said:
As curious as I am about any issues that Jared found related to blade play, I'm happy to wait until Jeff (or a Buck spokesperson) comes back on this. Jared just told us that he reported his findings to Jeff, which is super appropriate for him to do. I also think it's entirely appropriate for him to let Jeff (or another official spokesperson) to give a full read out on any play issues once they're done looking things over. I wouldn't characterize Jared's silence as "secrecy". If Buck was digging in their heels (they aren't, just the opposite), then I think Jared would be justified in telling us what he found, as other knife mechanics have in other threads (worn bushing, worn pins, worn blade/lockbar faces). Until then, I think Jared is doing the right thing reporting his findings and letting Buck speak for Buck.
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Perhaps you're right about Jared's silence on the issue, but I still don't understand the OP's reaction or lack there of. He was so vocal and out going in this and other threads about it, even hijacking some to voice his displeasure, I can't imagine why he'd be reluctant to follow up here.
 
Maybe Jared was told not to disclose his findings, and the matter has to work its' way up the chain. If that info was disclosed to the OP, and that it was given to the big wigs at BUCK would explain his non participation at this point. Sometimes us underlings can't have all the facts all the time, or Colonel Sanders would be out of business...
 
Well, I'm going to ignore the subject after this as well as anymore gripes or complaints from the OP as he's lost all credibility with me.

I wasn't aware that Jared worked for Buck or that he was in any kind of position where he could be "TOLD" by either Buck or the OP to keep silent. Asked maybe, but not told.
 
I do not work for Buck, but I have been asked by my Mentor not to give away Colonel Sanders secret recipe. I respect that and hope that you all can as well.

What I found with the knife may possibly not even be the cause of the very small amount of vertical play, but perhaps Buck can interpret my speculation better than I. Maybe simple as re-calibrating a machine at the factory.
Razor sent me a couple knives for modification, one had a very small amount of blade play and mismatched scales and the other knife with a small flaw was a proud blade as a result of a factory reblade.The rework guy probably thought it best to leave it so as not to compromise strength, and or asthetics as the blade would have been rather thin up top. The third Buck was a two dot he wanted rounded out, and the fourth Buck was a partial trade for my work. The last knife was not a Buck.

I hope this answers your guys questions.
 
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Well, I'm going to ignore the subject after this as well as anymore gripes or complaints from the OP as he's lost all credibility with me.

I wasn't aware that Jared worked for Buck or that he was in any kind of position where he could be "TOLD" by either Buck or the OP to keep silent. Asked maybe, but not told.
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Sorry for the late response,I lost all credibilty?Please,you don'tmhave any issues because you look at your buck knives,I actually use mine.I was out fishing ,its a busy time of year,no computers out there in the atlantic.I don;'t know what Jerad did to my knives to fix them,but they came out perfect,and while home for a moment i grabbed the alaskan guide and took it out fishing,after very heavy use aboard the boat,there is no blade play,no wobble,rick solid lock up and its been used heavy all week.

Plumb.stick to looking at your knives ,you'll never have any issues with them that way,i've lost all credibilty ,yeah i'm a straight shooter and if something is wrong i won't just keep praising the company because i like the knives,no matter how bad they turn em out i'll just keep loving them like you do.
 
RAZORBLADES said:
Sorry for the late response,I lost all credibilty?Please,you don'tmhave any issues because you look at your buck knives,I actually use mine.I was out fishing ,its a busy time of year,no computers out there in the atlantic.I don;'t know what Jerad did to my knives to fix them,but they came out perfect,and while home for a moment i grabbed the alaskan guide and took it out fishing,after very heavy use aboard the boat,there is no blade play,no wobble,rick solid lock up and its been used heavy all week.

Plumb.stick to looking at your knives ,you'll never have any issues with them that way,i've lost all credibilty ,yeah i'm a straight shooter and if something is wrong i won't just keep praising the company because i like the knives,no matter how bad they turn em out i'll just keep loving them like you do.
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You started this crap fest, it's your thread. You don't know the people here, and what they do with there knives. You complain and whine with no resolution, and then when questioned you start throwing stones. Get over yourself, Who are you DUCK COMMANDER
 
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Thank you Jared for the e-mail. It helps immensely.

I fully understand Razor's frustration at having to send new knives back. Him being in Canada makes it that much more painful. We feel that any new-in-box knife with a problem is one too many.


Let's keep the tone of this thread professional and on point. Personal digs do not serve any of us very well.
 
I've told Razor before that his main problem is geography.

If it cost me $30 to send a knife to Buck I'd be pretty frustrated, too.

We all choose where we live. Sometimes your choice brings a few problems.

But I've heard enough from Nova Scotia for a while. Move to Idaho or just buy the OLD Bucks if the new ones cause such a struggle for you. That's my suggestion and that's all I got to say about that.

:)

And frankly, reading between the lines, I suspect Buck is doing the best they can on quality control.

It would be nice if they found that there had been a problem with precision tolerances and found a way to fix that.

I doubt that will be the case.

Que Sera Sera.
 
mbjannusch said:
You started this crap fest, it's your thread. You don't know the people here, and what they do with there knives. You complain and whine with no resolution, and then when questioned you start throwing stones. Get over yourself, Who are you DUCK COMMANDER
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Well,actually i do know the people here,some of them quite well,as i've been here awhile.Plumb has said himself he collects more than he uses nowadays.Nobody asked you for any input in this thread,if you don't like it ,read something else ,nobody is forcing you to add to anything here bud.I don't think its a crap fest,its more like discussion,if i'm out fishing i'm not at a computer ready to respond at any given moment.If i have issues i'd like to hear other peoples' experiences,thats why i stated the thread,I guess i'll call it quits,too many ignorant members here that want to be the internet tough guy,everyone have a great Christmas,I'll make sure to stay off the site as i don't know anyone here..

Thanks for your input Mr.Hubbard,and you are correct,its funny who is always the big shot tough guy on the computer name calling ,i'd bet my last dollar mbsamwich got lots to say on here but wouldn't say a word to me in person,no smart assed comments anyway.

It was a great time guys ,thanks!
 
Gentlemen,

When we make each other the topic of discussion bad things can and usually do happen. Let's stay on topic and leave the personal digs out of the discussion.

@ RAZORBLADES

My first thought was this thread has run it's course and should be closed but I'll leave that up to you provided we can all get along and stay on topic. If you want this closed, just say the word and I'll take care of it.

Jason
 
Jason,

My request would be that you allow the thread to stay open so that Buck can report back on the question of blade play. Jeff (who is being incredibly patient and professional in the face of all this) has confirmed that he's received input on findings from a trusted modifier of Buck knives (our own Jared) and a few sample knives that have been donated back to Buck for examination. He's also told us they are actively reviewing things.

I would prefer to see Buck's final official comment on the blade play be the final word on this thread and I think we're still waiting for that.
 
Just wanted to update...

I sent a Buck 110 back to Buck sometime before 11-16-12 (mentioned it earlier in this thread). Got it back today. According to Buck they replaced the "proud" blade, and fixed the "wobble". Also did a courtesy "sharpen and cleaning". Knife looked really good, and is now very tight with no blade play. The blade also sits properly now when closed. They sent me a 25% off my next online Buck purchase. I think I'm going to use it to pick up my first custom Buck from the Buck website.
 
dmattaponi said:
Just wanted to update...

I sent a Buck 110 back to Buck sometime before 11-16-12 (mentioned it earlier in this thread). Got it back today. According to Buck they replaced the "proud" blade, and fixed the "wobble". Also did a courtesy "sharpen and cleaning". Knife looked really good, and is now very tight with no blade play. The blade also sits properly now when closed. They sent me a 25% off my next online Buck purchase. I think I'm going to use it to pick up my first custom Buck from the Buck website.
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Last one of those I saw said that they are not valid for Custom Shop orders...
 
It's a sad thing for those who appreciate and support skilled labor and craftsmanship with their hard earned dollars. But that's the corporate pattern. It looks like it's caught up with Buck production knives as well. It's not convenient, but maybe better to do your own QC on a knife in hand before sacrificing those yankee dollars.
 
007, Victorinox (among others) is an example of a knife company that can have excellent QC by embracing fully modernized tooling and machinery. Several interesting videos on YouTube and the like. It's been my experience in other areas that modern, hi-tech production can meet or exceed that of "by hand" fabrication.

I'm still rather confident that Buck could address any issues they have, provided they have the focus to do so. Harder to do with expanding product lines as many companies have demonstrated.

I too sent in several knives for Buck to inspect in terms of blade wobble. Donated actually. I don't need anything back from them and not expecting anything.

But, I hope it helps shed some light on the issues and doubly hope that we hear back from Jeff as he said he would do. It would be really wonderful to hear that they identified a production or design issue and have addressed it.
 
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