It followed me home (Part 2)

Square_peg said:
And I don't see how it was twisted. I think it could be done symmetrically with the welded section simply drawn out flat.
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From the point at the front of the eye,can you see the line tending diagonally towards the left corner of the blade?With material on either side of it slightly different color/texture?
The welded section was certainly peined and drawn out,and yes,possibly the ends were even in length(my guess is that not quite,that they were random length,but may easily be wrong too).
 
It could have started with a pre-form shaped like this.
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The inner dashed lines represent the poll. The lugs are drawn up as you suggest. The outer dashed lines indicate the start of forge welded section. After welding this section would be drawn out flat.

I have to preface this by admitting that I'm not familiar with early forging work. I don't doubt there's a simpler way than I just described. I'd like to hear more about the way you think this was created.
 
I think that your drawing is very much correct.Other than the ends were probably the same width as well(in other words it was a strap).

If you're saying that after the weld was made the resulting "bit" was peined as is,without twisting,that is also possible,and was done at times.
However,(besides judging by the seam on the photo),twisting orients the weld in a manner where peining strengthens the weld,whether forging it down in the same plane as the weld is riskier,and requires more skill,and better weld...
But definitely possible....
 
I've had a run-in with this old Karelian adze that i needed to duplicate(from photos)...here it is:https://imgur.com/a/nuz8y

....and i think that at about This stage-https://imgur.com/a/blJTT that i knew that i took a wrong turn,and should have twisted the bit after all....

I'm sorry,this doesn't illustrate it at all well,i thought that i had process photos from a more similar project.

But i certainly have come across examples very similar to one shown above,some with very clear traces of a twist...(and an identical eye as well).Of course i can't find them now.....
 
Square_peg said:
Help me out, I don't quite follow you.

Where exactly is the seam? I see a ding on the left side of the eye but that looks like normal wear.

And I don't see how it was twisted. I think it could be done symmetrically with the welded section simply drawn out flat. The 2 ends could have been compressed in height prior to wrapping the eye.

I'd like to see it cleaned up.
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I'll do that one first.

I don't see it either, although in the pic there might be evidence on the right side. It does make sense to me that twisting would be most efficient. I'll also be looking for the hard edge.
 
This Swedish one I have lays the process bare to even a novice like me. I count minimal 4 pieces in the construction and am pretty sure there was a twist involved.
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It's beyond me to see the Swedish connection in the other adze with its triangular shaped eye. It looks so simple and basic that it could be anything.
 
Miller '72 said:
Thanks Square_peg I was already feeling the same way. I cant wait to get to her. I will be cleaning and dressing this one when I finish with the 48" Plain Tooth...I need to resume her gullet work. I could have filed today but chose to go for a drive and save this saw, apparently from a transfer station ending:( (as it was, he only wanted $10 for the saw, it was a no brainer I had to go save her)
Damn shame about the axe, he probably saw my brain smoking and working overtime figuring out that some lucky bloke went in with a bin of trash and left with a Black Raven....LOL!
I don't know what axe he had but that would make one great story for the guy dropping his trash :D
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I just quoted this to get your attention Miller but you recently had an axe that had an H and B stamped randomly on the head right? This hewing axe I got reminds me of the same markings your axe had. I could t find that post.
 
Yes probably 6 pounds and yes I bet it is a Douglas! I can see “las” but not the other half. And it has “axe m” so I’m sure you are right! Good call!!
 
Yup and you can see the G. Has to be a Douglas! Mast axe.. is that a pattern or it was used for making masts for ships?
 
Brian Rust said:
I just quoted this to get your attention Miller but you recently had an axe that had an H and B stamped randomly on the head right? This hewing axe I got reminds me of the same markings your axe had. I could t find that post.
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Hey Brian.
Looks like i am showing up late to the party but appears you have found what you are looking for.

As far as what i have, I never found any leads or direction that manifested into an identification...

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You have a good looking, older piece. Nice score!
 
Miller '72 said:
Hey Brian.
Looks like i am showing up late to the party but appears you have found what you are looking for.

As far as what i have, I never found any leads or direction that manifested into an identification...

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You have a good looking, older piece. Nice score!
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Those look like the same style of stamps and the same random placement. I bet yours is a Douglas too.
 
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