It followed me home (Part 2)

Some information on the log brands (10,000 of them) used in Oregon:

About Log Brands

Log brands are used to identify forest products. Forest products must be impressed with a registered log brand design when being transported on public highways of Oregon. There are currently over 3,500 registered log brand owners with approximately 10,000 log brands.

https://www.oregon.gov/ODF/Working/Pages/LogBrands.aspx

Thank you Steve, I didn't recognize A17's in the current pdf.
I don't have any literature to back up the following assumptions and questions on log branding hammers but for conversation's sake...

Some were specially cast and some were attached to existing tools (hammers, axes, etc.)

Some are single faced, some double faced.

Marks were/are applied to the bark and some to the ends of the log.
- Were there common differences in sizes for each marking? Example: are end marks smaller than bark marks? I've seen loads traveling with paint marks on them. I've also seen them with stenciled symbols or marks as opposed to an impress. Same function as a logging hammer?

When the branding is not renewed, can the previously registered markings be used by another company?

How many would an outfit need? Did the truck driver mark them/did they ride in the rig with him/her? Did the loader mark them at a landing or maybe before rafting up? Did your foreman mark them on the landing? Seems like you would want your timber limbed, cut to transport size, and prepped before you mark them - otherwise the markings would be cut off or messed up skidding them out.

The marks seem to correspond to text describing them as numbers and figures - for example, is A17's listed under "arrow" or "seven" or "33" as the lead description? (assuming that is a seven with an arrow attached to it on that one side)

With raised faces, after their marking duty completed or their registration is lapsed, they don't seem like they would make the best striking tools to use for other purposes unless the stamp was ground off. An axe with a brand attached certainly could still be used as an axe - a sledge hammer with such a face would make a mess of whatever it used on.

Let's say your company switches their brands or they lapse, how far from where they were used would they realistically wander. Current Internet sales would send them far and wide or if someone who was in possession of it and then they moved, it might end up somewhere else I guess. For example I have seen a couple locally with Weyerhaeuser markings (Square_peg has one attached to an axe if I remember correctly). Weyerhaeuser is known locally/regionally.

Would you want to destroy, lock them up, or decommission them after use - to keep others from otherwise marking their harvest (legal or illegal)? If poached timber was marked with your brand that leads back to you, does it pose some sort of liability?

Do all states require registered log branding for transport and acceptance?

If you or your outfit needs to register a logging brand, how would you know which ones were already in use? For example, the State of Oregon has a semi-current list of marks assigned to registrants. If there isn't a solid way to search for available patterns in use, does the registrant play a wait and see game with the State?
Ex. Applicant sends a fee, a written description, and a drawing of their logging brand to the State, only to receive a notice that says, "Sorry. That one is in use already or too close to a current one. Try again." Is there an official that one contacts to verify availability?

If A17's was found in CA, does California have a current list such as Oregon's to trace logging brands and facilitate the registration of new ones or track previously used ones. I ask this as I am curious but can't seem to find a resource as such online for The State of California. I haven't been able to navigate the gov pages with search terms I've used so far (I lack Steve Tall Magic).

Older/defunct records of logging brands may not be digitized for the internet.
I have seen references on Forestry forum sites stating one of the guys actually went to look at hard copies of records at a state library.
 
This PDF (linked below) has some good articles about old-time logging in Washington State, including an article about logging brands. They were originally used "to protect the ownership of floating logs" and "to ensure that stray logs would be returned to the owner who cut them." There is information about the special notation of "catch brands" when ownership of a brand changes. It says that ITT Rayonier had 890 brands registered in the state, and Weyerhaeuser had 250.

This part is interesting:
"When swung by an experienced brander, a mark will be left that can be identified several feet into the log... So bucking off the branded end and claiming the log will not work. More than one log rustler has found out the hard way."

from Pacific County Logging Brands, by Larry Weathers
http://pacificcohistory.org/SouWester/1980 Spring.pdf
 
I have heard that the truck drivers had to brand at least 5 logs if the were logging gov't land. You had to paint a spot then stamp over the paint from what i've heard of modern practices.
 
So they are registered just like livestock brands. I had no idea. So did they print brand books?
 
Update: My brother talked to the p.o.'s son and he thinks it's a lightning brand? But he doesn't know who the brand belonged to.
 
This followed me home yesterday. Its been beat up, repaired, and it’s pretty ugly, but I like it. I will try to make an ash handle for it as well!

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I stopped by a barn sale today on the way to work this morning. I left most of the axes/mauls/farrier’s tools/hammers/scythes/ bit and braces for the next guy. Despite my “ responsible harvesting” I did have to give home to a couple of things.

A marked, but yet to be determined ballpeen, 16” Zenith Crucible Steel file, fairly clean edged Patent Applied For Plumb 3.2, True Temper something hewing hatchet, small Cheney hammer, and three hammer handles. The handle shape on the Plumb made me think of one that was recently posted here on the forums.
 
I forget what these whip weed wacker things are called but i got a nice one! A hardly used T-T Kelly perfect. A newer Collins that i mostly bought for the handle and a 4lb Vaughn. It has a USA 4lb stamp on the opposite side of the stamp. Can this help date it at all?
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I've got to go pick up a double bit someone found for me recently. Hopefully tomorrow!
 
I forget what these whip weed wacker things are called but i got a nice one! A hardly used T-T Kelly perfect. A newer Collins that i mostly bought for the handle and a 4lb Vaughn. It has a USA 4lb stamp on the opposite side of the stamp. Can this help date it at all?
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I've got to go pick up a double bit someone found for me recently. Hopefully tomorrow!

I believe those are called grass whips.

Btw nice Vaughan.
 
I forget what these whip weed wacker things are called but i got a nice one! A hardly used T-T Kelly perfect.
A "grass whip". Miserable thing to use. Just ask Paul Neuman.
But on the up-side, they do sharpen easily. A scythe may sharpen once per day. Those things, a constant job..
 
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A crosscut file and what ever the weird triangle is called, the triangular is a belknap bluegrass.
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Anybody know about this guy? It says am Swiss on the back side.

Buddy I am smitten with everything in your post...the saw vise has me grinning ear to ear for you and the crosscut...please tell more!
Spiller! Files! Spider! I will stop simply relisting but I think you know what I mean.
Thanks for sharing that I can only imagine your fun and excitement right now.

Miller Time!
 
I already hung it but i bought this plumb wedge pattern today at a local antique shop. There is no weight stamp but it weighs #3-15.1oz. Measures 7-1/4" x 4-1/8". Does anyone know roughly when plumb started using their special stamps? ie; crescent moon, triangle, circle etc?
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Very cool. I was looking around on eBay where I saw a 4# Plumb wedge pattern axe being sold in Maine and it was very similar to yours. At first I thought there was a mistake in the listing as I wasn't aware they ever made a wedge pattern axe. Have you been able to find any other information on yours?
 
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