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Don Rearic

Don Rearic

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California, the gift that keeps on giving and setting legal precedents that ALL Americans sooner or later have to suck on...

And just think, just like in 1958, Our side is apparently selling us out. Maybe it is simple INCOMPETENCE this time instead of malice, but the result will be the same.

You think the whole Switchblade/Florida thing is bad, just like I told people in the Microtech Forum at KFC, it's coming...

Good thing Emersons are easy to strip without TORX and ALLEN Wrenches...'cause you might be stripping them to PROVE your POCKETknife has a ball/detent on the hood of a Police Cruiser.

Oh? Or will they make some stupid, convoluted <font color=red>P.O.S.</font> LIST of Knives that are legal?

You know, like they do with Firearms...

Ladies and Gentlemen, this is not a misdemeanor we are speaking of, this is a FELONY in California.

Seems like California should BAN GANGS, but I guess that makes too much damned sense.


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Usual Suspect Some of my Knives and other neat things



[This message has been edited by Don Rearic (edited 06-02-2001).]
 
What is a ball/detent and do Commanders have them?

And for cryin' out loud, will people stop already? I mean, screwdrivers are used more often by street punks for nefarious purposes than knives. And I very seriously doubt that anyone who spends a couple hundred dollars on a blade is going to go out and use it illegally.
Instead we should make sure that we ban all the cheap knock-off tacticals that are flooding the market. I mean we can't have law-abiding people with less disposable income be able to have a knife they enjoy or feel safe with now, can we?
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Integritas

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[This message has been edited by Kampfjaeger (edited 06-02-2001).]
 
Hey, Most newer Emersons have two detents!
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Does:

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">or other mechanical device</font>
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include "The Wave"? It's not really "mechanical" in nature.

I see a "wave" of bottle openers being born.
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John
 
What pi$$es me off is that if California adopts this POS legislation, Massachusetts will fall right into line. They won`t be able to pass their version of the law fast enough! I`d expect New York to jump into the pigpile of "tough new anti-crime laws". These three states are in a constant competion to see who can put the most draconian laws on their books each year.

So where`s the ATKI.....oh, yeah....nevermind....
 
They are little balls on a piece of the liner that rubs against the blade. It then falls into a little hole on the blade in the closed position to hold it in its handles so the knife blade doesnt fly out easily.

david brunner
banditknives
 
Thanks Dave. Any word on legality issues concerning the wave? I agree with John that they are NOT mechanical in nature.

On a serious note - should anything happen and the authorities are giving it the hairy eyeball, how would you suggest handling/explaining this particular feature?

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Integritas
 
Massachusetts is the Kalifornia of the East coast, it has been pretty much established
that according to MA. General Law "The Wave"
is probably already considered illegal.
This part of the state (western) has seen a dramatic increase in stabbings. I wonder how many were EKI waved knives?
My guess is 0!!!
My own $.02

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In a Perfect World, ironically, how this country was intended to be:

Officer: "What's that in your pocket?"

Subject: "My Pocketknife."

Officer: "Please, don't pull it out, can I have your name, address and date of birth?"

Subject: "Sure [gives info]."

Dispatcher Radios back, "Negative NCIC."

Officer to Subject: "You're free to go, have a nice day..."

If the Officer should ask to see it, and;

Officer: "What are you carrying a knife like this for?"

Subject: "Self-defense and Utility."

Officer: "Uuhhhmmmkaaay, hold on..."

Officer: "Everything is OK, you're free to go."

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Now, I really don't even think they should ask to see it unless you are wanted for something and they have to remove it. It's simply none of their business, again, the way the country was intended. It's a pocket knife and there is alot of crime out there.

Nowadays, you see thread after thread at Bladeforums about ways to lie to a Police Officer about how a CQC-7 is a Utility Knife.

Well...yeah, it can be.

What are you going to do when the Judge asks you what "CQC" stands for?

How about "SOCFK?"

As it stands right now, in most of the country, if you tell an Officer that you are carrying whatever for "Self-defense," you are going directly to JAIL.

I'm not talking about Police Officers on THIS Forum, I'm talking about others. See?

Why? "Self-defense" means "Weapon."

Weapons are prohibited in most areas, unless you have a plastic card in your wallet with a Photo that says you're OK, and even then, not in all cases.

The whole thing is maddening and ludicrous.

You have a right to Self-defense in every State in this country and you are constantly denied the weapons to make that Defense a success...

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[This message has been edited by Don Rearic (edited 06-03-2001).]
 
Well, the knife I own is a plain edged Commander. The Green T might raise a few eyebrows, but hey... I like it. If I was ever confronted with a situation where an Officer was concerned with why I carried a knife such as this, I think my reply might be as follows:

I do a lot of work in a saltwater environment so the coating on the blade protects it from corrosion. The manufacturer offered two colors: black and green and quite frankly green just appealed to me more. The shape of the knife? It is designed to be a cutter - good for ropes, etc. The "wave?" I heard that the "wave" feature was incorporated on knives used by NASA as a highly useful way of single-handed opening of a knife. In my circumstance, with wet hands, being on a boat with others in close proximity, the wave is a much less dramatic and safer way of deploying the blade than flicking it open with my wrist or thumbing it open. I'd rather avoid accidentaly flicking my knife overboard or into another person. It seemed like a smart feature to have. I needed a sturdy reliable knife that I could depend on and I spent the commensurate amount of money for it. I carry it the same way I carry my wallet, ID and wristwatch. It's just a tool I carry with me every day.

How do you think this approach would go over?

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Integritas
 
When asked, I've just said that it's my pocket knife. When asked why I carry it, I usually say something like "I've grown up sailing alot, and while sailing one always has a knife. It's a habit." That would also explain why one would have serrations. Of course, this would work better along the gulf coast other than, say, Kansas or something.
I thought the CQC was "Convenient Quartering and Cooking" knife?
I always relate my having a knife to a harmless activity (such as sailing, carpentry, dealing crack, etc...)
cheers,
DWE
 
well the nice thing about Kansas is that it is mainly rural communities and most of the time you would be stared at if you did NOT carry some sort of pocket knife.
when I used to work in a small town PD I always assumed that Everyone I came in contact with was always armed either with a knife or a firearm and I knew almost everyone .That is one luxury that I do not have anymore working in a larger city.....Most of the time when i contact someone now and they have a knife I will take it and then if they are cleared and not going to jail the knife is returned to them on the spot and they go about their merry way

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I used to be disgusted .Now I am just amused....I feel much better now that I have given up all hope
 
LOL Reminds me of being asked by a waitress what the "H&K Staff" was for on the Polo shirt I was wearing.

"It's the logo for "Home & Kitchen Magazine", I'm a staff writer." I say with a straight face
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"That's Cooool" she says

"Hi, I'm "John" . . . what's your name?"
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John
 
John- The next thing we'll see -- is you as the Guest Chef on Martha Stewart's Better Living.

I'd watch just to see you dice-up the chicken with your Custom Kitchen Emmes.
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Then you and Ms. Stewart could go out into the garden and slash prune the roses.
 
I like your approach, Dwenslen. I think I'll use your "tack" if you'll pardon the pun.
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Integritas
 
To go back to Mass being as bad as Cali; OK, our gun laws suck big time and are a good reason to vote Libertarian and get Carla Howell some support. As for knife laws, MA has some of the most reasonable of all the state I travel to. NO length limits, legal carry of fixed blades. Why carry a folder when a fixed blade is legal. The Wave might be questionable under the section that makes any device that allows a folder to be drawn in the open position illegal, but it is also arguable that it is opened as it is drawn and not drawn in the open position. You can scream about a ton of dumb stuff in MA and especially the People Republic of Cambridge, but knife laws aren't one of them.

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It is not the fall that kills you. It is the realization that "yes, you did something that stupid."
 
bfm - You have point, but I fear New England knife laws will be like our weather: subject to change instantly without notice. All it takes is for Comrade Reilly to invoke the Consumer Protection act again and that`s it; no vote, no nothing. I`m afraid we`re just one highly publicized school stabbing away from some real restrictive knife laws. It`s hard to be optimistic in the great state of Massachusetts.
 
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